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Zeitgeist - was 9/11 was an inside job?

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Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

No time to really do an indepth response right now, and I'm not going to pull a Wolfman and post huge articles. Quickly, though, those who built Titanic said she couldn't sink.

Btw, how long do you think it takes tons of steel to "pancake?" Its not a slow Italian accordian.
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

Ok so how much fuel would those planes have left in them to increase the heat to the point where the steel beams would be so weakend?
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

"People heard, and saw explosions going off in the building before the collapse"

See i can make stuff up also.

9\11 was not an inside job, trust me.
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

Why is this posted 2 times.

My bad. It said there was an error when I tried to post the first time, so I waited 30 seconds and posted again.
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

"People heard, and saw explosions going off in the building before the collapse"

See i can make stuff up also.

9\11 was not an inside job, trust me.
Yeah I will trust you more than people who have designed million-dollar buildings, which the architect also designed the fire safety of, again:
For those talking about an independent source, here is an independent architect(who works for AIA) talking about it:

http://911blogger.com/node/10025

(no spooky conspiracy music either)

anyway I don't really care, doesn't affect my every day life really or me liking this country, but facts are facts.
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

Well there's the evidence that conspiracy theorists are typically stoners without jobs and no girlfriends.

:)

Did you say something to me?
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

Do you have inside info Chardon? This argument is pretty useless liek the Obama thread was. Bush stood to gain a lot and lose a lot by doing this. I agree that it may not have been an inside job, but it is a very real idea that Bush and his cabinet were weighing their option of a possible re-election by letting it happen. Or by letting it happen he could start his war and possibly gain financially.
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

And the part nobody answer, is with did the other building, not the other trade tower collapse, it was not hit with anything? But it decided to suddenly fall down, like it was demolished...

Answer this...if it was being demolished...why wait? Why not detonate it when the other building fell. I don't see the point or how this is some sort of smoking gun. :confused:


With regards to the Pentagon, click this link. It contains quotes from the Fema people and witnesses that saw plane parts...it also shows photos.

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

These stupid Loose Change videos and Zeitgeist are trying to convince you that it was an inside job...so they leave out all facts that would say otherwise. They don't mention the 100's of witnesses who testified watching a plane fly over their cars and outside of the their buildings and into the Pentagon. They don't mention parts of a 767, bodies, etc recovered from the Pentagon. The 9/11 commission(yes, there was one) said the plane flew into the building. If there were no bodies(which there were) or no plane parts(which there were), don't you think members of the cleanup crew would be screaming "IT WASN'T A DAMN PLANE!!!" Bodies were recovered and identified....did the cleanup crew plant them there after the fact? Yet b/c there is a missing video we must assume something else?

I would encourage you to look at this analysis. Plenty of facts, plenty of pics, etc. - http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html

Review the facts -
Size of 757 matches the initial size of hole in the building - somewhere between 13 and 16 feet (757 is 13 feet wide/high)
Rims found in building match those of a 757
Small turbine engine outside is an APU
Same engine has been clearly stated to not match a Global Hawk engine
Blue seats from 757 laying on ground in photos
Part of "American" fuselage logo visible in more than 1 photo
Engine parts photographed inside match a Rolls-Royce RB211
Structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint primer schemes
Large deisel generator in front of building hit by a large heavy object
Large deisel engine outside is spun towards the building - could not be result of bomb blast or missile explosion
Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner
Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner hit the Pentagon
60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage


For all the people that have fallen for the "inside job" bullshit answer me a question. At the MINIMUM, how many people would have to have been involved in this inside job? How many people would it take to wire two 110 story buildings with Composite-4? How many sailors on a Destroyer would have to be involved to launch a Cruise missile into the Pentagon? How many air traffic controllers that followed the planes from takeoff until impact? How many recovery workers?
Give me a number....how many at the MINIMUM? So now think about that number. Think about how many people have turned on each other in the Bush Administration over the last years (McClellan, Powell, Rumsfeld). No one has EVER come forward and said it was an inside job? The odds are infinitesimal that a job this large could be covered up. It is impossible.

One other thing, the title of this thread and the "thumbs up" symbol next to it are some of the most offensive things I've ever seen on RCF.

For the sake of the deceased, let it go.

RIP Bobby O'Shea - 9/11/01 WTC
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

I will say this. Say you have a pretty large Styrofoam structure in your room (let's say 10 ft by 5 ft). If you punched it 3/4ths of the way up (at the 7ft, 6 inch mark) the thing would not collapse like a pancake. It would topple over, like a thing of Jenga. THAT is the one thing that has piqued my interest about 9-11 since day 1. That and tower 7. I'm not saying that it was an inside job. I'm saying that things need to be explained a little better.
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

I agree with Max, this is in very poor taste....

How about the moon landing?
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

I will say this. Say you have a pretty large Styrofoam structure in your room (let's say 10 ft by 5 ft). If you punched it 3/4ths of the way up (at the 7ft, 6 inch mark) the thing would not collapse like a pancake. It would topple over, like a thing of Jenga. THAT is the one thing that has piqued my interest about 9-11 since day 1. That and tower 7. I'm not saying that it was an inside job. I'm saying that things need to be explained a little better.

Your fist is not wedged into the styrofoam, and flaming, so this makes no sense.
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

Your fist is not wedged into the styrofoam, and flaming, so this makes no sense.

Please. You think the 'flames' brought down the building? C'mon...It defies physics and logic.

And so what if it's not wedged into the building. In fact, the plane being wedged into the building would generate more cause for it to topple over and not collapse straight down.
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

I agree with Max, this is in very poor taste....

How about the moon landing?

Please. I lost a few friends and a fraternity brother in WTC 1 and 2. This should not be taboo. It's ok to question authority once in a great while instead of being spoon fed everything. Again, I'm not saying it did or didn't happen via the government, but there are plenty of questions that are ok to ask.
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

Your fist is not wedged into the styrofoam, and flaming, so this makes no sense.

The force that plane would have hit the building with would have pushed it over or helped to push it over IMO.
 
Re: Zeitgeist - 9/11 was an inside job.

What I think is funny about these conspiracies is that they ask some Joe Blow detonation expert what he thinks.. as if ANYONE EVER has even thought about what would happen if a plane, or two, hit this certain building.

You want to know what happens? Watch the videos... they fall down and kill a lot of innocent people. If you think there were bombs planted or whatever, so be it, but there's not a single person out there that has the knowledge of what would happen before it actually did happen. And now that it did, now you know from here on out what happens when planes hit towers.

Terrible.
 

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