Yahoo: Nets moving closer to deal for Anthony

CP3 + Okafor to Orlando would be fantastic. Of course it'd make the non-Floridian teams in the East totally irrelevant for a few years, but the ORL/MIA battles would be pretty sweet.

Trading Melo to Philly seems lol. Not sure which is worse, trading for Iggy or trading for Melo (unless he'd actually sign there?)

If Denver really wants Andy and aren't too big on getting Favors I would think Denver would like to make it a 3 team trade so they can get some of our TPE. Also we may have to take on some money but to get Favors and some other talent it would be well worth it.

Silky Smooth said:

If Denver really wants Andy and aren't too big on getting Favors I would think Denver would like to make it a 3 team trade so they can get some of our TPE. Also we may have to take on some money but to get Favors and some other talent it would be well worth it.

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It would be great to get Favors but just dont see it happening

bigjmac0815 said:

Yeah, the little re-building project was bringing in Eyenga/Hollins/Sessions/Samuels

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You don't rebuild in one year. Rebuilding takes several years. People are going to need to be patient.

Triumph36 said:

CP3 + Okafor to Orlando would be fantastic. Of course it'd make the non-Floridian teams in the East totally irrelevant for a few years, but the ORL/MIA battles would be pretty sweet.

Trading Melo to Philly seems lol. Not sure which is worse, trading for Iggy or trading for Melo (unless he'd actually sign there?)

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Well Philly gets to dump Iggy's ugly contract, and get a 1-year rental of Melo to excite the fan base and possibly get a playoff spot. They may also (unrealistically) expect a chance to re-sign him. But if Philly gives up valuable assets in addition to Iggy, it'd be pretty damn bad for a rental of Melo.

can someone explain to me why the cavs would even entertain the possibility of trading Andy plus more than likely being cap relief for any deal like this without MASS compensation? Im talking multiple picks and young talent. Im sorry but Andy by himself is worth a pretty decent first round pick (not lottery but close). Plus any sort of financial help the cavs are providing should just sweeten what they getting.. im looking at 2 first rounders plus a young player... just to start.

bob2the2nd said:

can someone explain to me why the cavs would even entertain the possibility of trading Andy plus more than likely being cap relief for any deal like this without MASS compensation? Im talking multiple picks and young talent. Im sorry but Andy by himself is worth a pretty decent first round pick (not lottery but close). Plus any sort of financial help the cavs are providing should just sweeten what they getting.. im looking at 2 first rounders plus a young player... just to start.

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I agree with you, if we're getting involved in the Melo trade and would trade Andy in the deal.....I want the lottery protected pick that belonged to GS plus 2 young players from either Denver or either NY/NJ whoever would be getting Melo

bigjmac0815 said:

It would be great to get Favors but just dont see it happening

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Pretty sure this is the first time I actually agree with one of your posts in this thread, haha.

Hydroponic3385 said:

Well Philly gets to dump Iggy's ugly contract, and get a 1-year rental of Melo to excite the fan base and possibly get a playoff spot. They may also (unrealistically) expect a chance to re-sign him. But if Philly gives up valuable assets in addition to Iggy, it'd be pretty damn bad for a rental of Melo.

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Is dumping his contract that necessary though? Sure, it'd give them some space this off-season but there aren't many quality FAs with Melo out of the picture. There's Noah and Gasol but they're both restricted so Philly would have to severely overpay to get them. If they can't get either, then what do they do?

If they trade Iggy, IMO they should be trying to actually get some sort of useful players back. Yes, Melo would be useful this season. But if they know he won't re-sign, why bother? He won't turn them into title contenders, they'd probably end up around a 5-6 seed. It might make the fans happy...but that's only temporary. Then it turns into anger when he bolts and they realize they traded Iggy for nothing.

Now if he'd actually stay there...that's different. They provide a pretty solid core, but Melo and his stupid wife seem to be interested in the location and not the actual team itself.

ETA: well, if they are in complete financial hell and the ownership is struggling (they're not afaik), then I guess it's a little better. Still, not very good tho IMO.

bob2the2nd said:

can someone explain to me why the cavs would even entertain the possibility of trading Andy plus more than likely being cap relief for any deal like this without MASS compensation? Im talking multiple picks and young talent. Im sorry but Andy by himself is worth a pretty decent first round pick (not lottery but close). Plus any sort of financial help the cavs are providing should just sweeten what they getting.. im looking at 2 first rounders plus a young player... just to start.

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holy overvaluing our assets, batman!

Like you said, AV is worth a mid non-lottery 1st. OK. But the TPE isn't worth another 1st and young player unless the Cavs are taking back a big non-expiring.

Triumph36 said:

holy overvaluing our assets, batman!

Like you said, AV is worth a mid non-lottery 1st. OK. But the TPE isn't worth another 1st and young player unless the Cavs are taking back a big non-expiring.

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well its pretty much been totally established that any player that makes in the 4-5 million dollar range and another team is willing to eat his contract gets a mid-first. So unless the cavs are trading with teams that they think they can get 2 mid round firsts, then they better be getting some young talent.

also my guess is they would be eating more than just 4-5 million dollars.

Broken record here: I'd rather have Gallinari than Favors. At this point, we need to be getting young talent. Favors has major upside but is completely unproven. He also plays PF which we believe we have our future at already in JJ. I also think NY is much more desperate to get Melo than anyone else (despite acting like they're not). I think we could give up much less and snag Gallinari and maybe even a 1st depending on who we deal (if we deal Varajeo). We might even bring back Nene which would cover our center position for this season, give us a nice expiring next year and provide us with another nice trading asset.

For what its worth, the philly insider on realgm.com mention that Anthony would not sign an extension with them if he was traded there. However, the insider did mention that the sixers could be an additional team involved in the trade. Funny as i write this Braylon Edwards gets a TD and Al Michaels talks about L_____ being at the game. At this point any team can be apart of this trade.

bigjmac0815 said:

It would be great to get Favors but just dont see it happening

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Triumph36 said:

Pretty sure this is the first time I actually agree with one of your posts in this thread, haha.

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Why would we get Favors? Are we giving up on JJ? I'd rather get a SF or SG; hell even a quality center.

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well its pretty much been totally established that any player that makes in the 4-5 million dollar range and another team is willing to eat his contract gets a mid-first. So unless the cavs are trading with teams that they think they can get 2 mid round firsts, then they better be getting some young talent.

also my guess is they would be eating more than just 4-5 million dollars.

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fwiw, OKC traded #21 and #26 for #11 and Mo Pete ($6.5M) during the draft. Since the Cavs won't be including late 1sts, they obv wouldn't get as good of a pick.

I think something reasonable (for the TPE) would be a pick OR a young player. Or a pick and a crappy young player, I guess. That's assuming the contract they're looking at has $5-8M left on it. If they're willing to absorb $10M+ (whether it's an expiring, or $5M with 2 years left) then I could see asking for two assets.

McOhio said:

Why would we get Favors? Are we giving up on JJ? I'd rather get a SF or SG; hell even a quality center.

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No, not necessarily. But it opens up options. If JJ is showing lots of promise, then Favors could be moved (he has lots of value obv). If Favors is looking like a stud, then JJ could be moved for a lesser but still decent package.

It's not the perfect position-wise, but look at it from a talent perspective. I'd certainly prefer to take the best player over the player who may fit at SG or SF but is not nearly as good.

Thinking about this...Denver has to trade Melo and it makes so much more sense to do it now. They will lose leverage once the season starts, and already their leverage is diminishing since Melo has made it clear that he's not signing and being particular about only committing to resign with a couple teams.

It's a great opportunity for us to get involved. I hope we can swing something out of this.

Here's a thought. What if we are added as a 5th team and trade Mo to the Nets considering they really want a PG to replace Devin Harris, Andy to Denver, and we get either Favors or GS lotto pick.