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Potential destinations for Antawn Jamison

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I really want him gone.

1. It will take away meaningless scoring and give our young projects more touches (Jamison shoots so fucking much.)

2. We will probably lose more games, thus getting a higher pick.

IF we can get a first rounder for him SOMEHOW, we're in very good shape.

Our own pick will most likely be very high as a result of the trade and we might even scoop up another 1st rounder.

The trade deadline can't come soon enough. I'll personally pack Jamison's bags and drive him to the airport.
 
I think Tristan is ready to Start.

The team plays kind of lackadasiacal at the moment. its easy just going through the motions when you know you can just dump the ball to Jamison and let him take the load.

Jamison traded would certainly help address that mentality. besides Thompsons ready to start. Jamisons biggest asset was consistency on the court. I think Thompson is ready to play with some consistency.
 
There is a whole lot of scoring slack that would need to be made up if Jamison is moved, not disagreeing just pointing out facts.
 
There's no doubt that if Jamison is dealt/bought out that there will be a large volume of available offensive opportunities available. I don't think Tristan will initially look to gobble up/have plays drawn for him to take some of those shots. I really don't think Tristan will be confident and consistent enough until he has a solid offseason to really work on his game. I do think that Jamison being removed does help him so he does get some sort of consistent feel for the game, especially by building chemistry with Kyrie.

That's why I have consistently advocated trading Jamison to a team that has another high volume shooter/scorer. I've also been advocating getting an asset back for taking on such a player. I think dealing Jamison to Charlotte and taking on Corey Maggette (with some incentive) is an avenue to explore. I think that two teams that the Cavs should be talking to are Atlanta and Charlotte.

It's hard enough predicting rational, realistic trades with one team, let alone two. But, what about something like this:

Trade with Atlanta and Charlotte
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88mrsqb

Cleveland trades: Antawn Jamison, Ramon Sessions, and 2012 second
Cleveland obtains: Corey Maggette, Marvin Williams, and 2013 first (POR via CHA)*

Atlanta trades: Marvin Williams, Kirk Hinrich, and 2012 first
Atlanta obtains: Ramon Sessions, Boris Diaw, and 2012 second (CLE)

Charlotte trades: Corey Maggette, Boris Diaw, and 2013 first (POR)*
Charlotte obtains: Antawn Jamison, Kirk Hinrich, and 2012 first (ATL)

*Pick details: (Top 12 protected in the 2013 draft, top 12 protected in 2014, top 12 protected in 2015, and unprotected in the 2016 Draft)

Cleveland picks up an overpaid vet who turns into an expiring chip next season in Maggette, a possible upgrade at the wing (desperately needed) in Williams, and another protected first round pick. The protection isn't anywhere near as bad as Sacramento and is unprotected in 2016, which is fine with me because we shouldn't need a ton of picks of the next few years, I'd rather they be more spaced out. I don't overvalue Jamison and Sessions. I look at this as basically trading Sessions for Williams whilst including the lesser second round pick this year to get Atlanta to send their pick to Charlotte so the Cavs can get the Portland pick from Charlotte. I don't think Maggette by himself gets you anything but an added second rounder. I'd rather combine the assets and try to get a first in this way.

I don't know if Atlanta still has burning interest in Ramon Sessions, but I think he is better than Jeff Teague. I think Sessions can shine if given a legit chance, there's just no place for him here long term and I believe you have to get something for him. Diaw is an expiring that can plug into Williams spot and is versatile enough to do a lot of things for the team. He also doesn't command offensive touches, so you can allow Johnson and Smith to dominate the ball. This move also gets the Hawks below the tax level this year, and saves them the future money owed on Marvin Williams' contract.

Charlotte picks up a veteran presence and scorer in Jamison who has claimed interest in playing for his family before he retires. He may help the team this year (and beyond should the Bobcats choose to sign him to a reasonable contract). He definitely would help fill in some of the scoring that that team needs so badly. He and Hinrich are both expiring deals and don't hurt the franchise. Maybe Hinrich can carve himself a niche on the team? He's certainly not likely to be a headache like Diaw. The removal of Maggette saves the Bobcats money next year and Diaw's departure removes a possible distraction. That coupled with a first from Atlanta should be incentive enough to send the Cavs Portland's future first.

I think this is fair for all three teams involved and does legitimately address concerns that all three teams (and management) current have.
 
You're mistaken.

Marvin makes 7.5 million this season and next, and has an option for nearly 8 million in 2014.

Sessions= $4.2m + Jamison= $15.1m

Jamison and Sessions cannot be sent to the Hawks for just Marvin; The Hawks would need to send back at-least 9.9 million more to make the trade work.

The Hawks are over the tax threshold by nearly 13 million, so they need to have the incoming aggragate salaries be within 125% plus $100k of what they are sending out.

The previous poster suggested Jamison for Williams and Hinrich because their their combined salaries are within the salary-rule for teams over the tax threshold.

However, the only way I see the Cavs getting Atlanta's #1 in that situation is if the Cavs were to include Sessions and Casspi - which would pose another problem... the Hawks would have need to add a couple players like Stackhouse and Pargo to the deal (Hawks would need to send out an additional -approx- 1million in addition to Kirk and Marvin) to make the numbers ($) & and rosters work.

I was including Hinrich.

This is the Jamison thread. discussing a trade that didnt inlcude jamison.. on the jamison thread would be kind of silly wouldnt it

but they can be sent. Jamison + sessions. Williams + Henrich + 3 million which teams are allowed to include.


http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=759tmbf

trade machine seems to agree. I think Cleveland would need to include 3 million. plus of course the cavs would get the pick. Have williams and another pick to leverage n trade day
 
There is a whole lot of scoring slack that would need to be made up if Jamison is moved, not disagreeing just pointing out facts.

Lol. So sad. The Cavs have literally nobody that knows how to score, aside from our PG, who is supposed to be a "pure PG." (Assuming Jamison were traded)
 
I had this video game where you could run an airline. You had to set up routes. set rates. I was pretty good at it. I am pretty sure though that if United Airlines made me their CEO it would be a disaster.

Have you met Jeff Smisek? I might give you a shot at it.
 
I can't believe we haven't heard a single rumor on jamison

maybe that's a good thing (like the mo for baron deal) we'll find out
 
Wonder who were talking too....
 
I bet Grant is being offered some of the worst contracts in the NBA for Jamison's huge expiring... aging contenders with rotting vets on their bench who could really use some scoring - Celtics, Lakers, Mavs, Spurs, etc... and as long as we dont get saddled with a deal over 2 years and get that draft pick with it, you deal him.
 
If the cavs dont intend on keeping the player a 4 year contract is feasible. as long as it can be split to 5 million or less a year.
 
Russell Williams ‏ @Cavs247dotcom
According to windy on wknr trade talks w/ #cavs shopping Jamison are heating up. #NBA

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I bet Grant is being offered some of the worst contracts in the NBA for Jamison's huge expiring... aging contenders with rotting vets on their bench who could really use some scoring - Celtics, Lakers, Mavs, Spurs, etc... and as long as we dont get saddled with a deal over 2 years and get that draft pick with it, you deal him.

I would assume it would be the Celtics, Lakers, and Mavs.

I just don't know who we would get in return.
 
Celtics would have to trade Jermaine Oneal to make it work. LA has nothing big enough to trade to us as far as contracts. The Mavs may be that team. It's obvious they are saving money for Howard and Deron Williams. I just don't know what they have we would want.
 

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