Potential destinations for Antawn Jamison

[Bob_The_Cat]

Lol...if the Cavs could get a talent the level of Cousins by trading back the awful SF Sac gave us, an expiring, and an SG that never plays (on a team in desperate need of perimeter players) it'd be done already. That's why I love BR.

 

[Dr. Gymbo]

I got to thinking after I read this based on this from Ken Berger (which has no doubt been posted in two-three other places by now):

Flush with cap space and flexibility, the Cavaliers have been actively expressing a willingness to take on money for the right assets. Cleveland already is loaded with draft picks (two first-round picks in each of the next two drafts) and has a valuable commodity in Antawn Jamison -- a veteran stretch forward with an expiring contract. The problem is, contending teams that would be the best fit for Jamison -- such as Orlando or Boston -- don't have room for his $15.1 million salary or pieces they're interested in moving to make a trade work under cap rules.

Trade with Boston
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7gr3to8

Cleveland trades: Antawn Jamison, Semih Erden, and Luke Harangody
Cleveland obtains: Brandon Bass, Keyon Dooling, Jermaine O'Neal, and 2012 first (LAC via BOS)

If Boston is going to truly keeping their big three together for one last hurrah, how does this not benefit the Celtics? They are upgrading their PF spot in exchange for movable parts and late first round pick. Antawn also doesn't tie up their cap. Of the players they are sending to Cleveland, Dooling and O'Neal are expiring and Bass holds a player option with one additional year. If Bass decides to exercise it, he could end up leaving Boston anyways. In addition to getting Antawn, Boston gets back cheap depth that have already been exposed to Doc Rivers and his coaching staff.

The Cavs get a possible young PF that they can evaluate the rest of this season and assess whether or not they keep him should he exercise his option and another first round selection. Assuming Sessions is dealt, they also get a backup PG for the rest of this season. O'Neal is just a throw it to make the salary work and has no future really anywhere. These players also do not tie up the Cavs' cap.

I think it's a win-win for both teams.

 

[RonG]

Gymbo they aren't keeping the three together they are taking offers on Paul and Ray Allen is a free agent next year that they are trying to move now.

 

[MattyFos.]

I don't see Boston giving up that pick.

 

[Dr. Gymbo]

Gymbo they aren't keeping the three together they are taking offers on Paul and Ray Allen is a free agent next year that they are trying to move now.

I agree that Boston will try to move somebody, but just because they try, doesn't mean it happens. I don't know if Ainge has the balls to trade Paul Pierce, but I could see him trying to deal Ray Allen. It's one thing to trade Kendrick Perkins, but it's quite another to trade Paul Pierce. And even if they do, I can't imagine that the offers are that good for him. It would be mid-level or playoff contenders trading for him, not rebuilding teams. Could the Clippers or the Pacers trade for Allen, I bet they would try. But I look at their rosters and I don't see a deal there either unless Indiana is fine renting Ray Allen for their playoff push - I don't think he pushes them over the top or re-signs with them. I could see his interest in LA, but they lack the assets unless they get another team involved.

It's far too early to predict what teams do what and I understand that, but I did couch my entire trade with the preface, "If Boston is going to truly keeping their big three together for one last hurrah..."

I don't see Boston giving up that pick.

If the season ended today, that pick would be #24. I'm not going to pretend that Antawn Jamison is some world-beater, but the C's are giving up three role players, all of whom have been injured (one of which is likely done for the season) already. They haven't gotten much production out of anybody other than Bass and even he's iffy at times.

 

[Noonan]

I'm amazed the conversation lasted two hours. From Bill Simmons:

Who says no to Atlanta saving $20 million next season by dealing Smith and Marvin Williams to Cleveland for Antawn Jamison's expiring contract? (Answer: The Hawks. But they definitely had a two-hour meeting about it.)

If this is true then it looks like the Cavs aren't all that interested in being patient with a rebuild.

 

[elcheato]

I'm sure they are interested in patiently rebuilding, but you're talking about moving Antawn Jamison for Josh Smith..

 

[citizentino]

I'm 99.9% sure the Hawks' "2-hour meeting" discussing that trade was hypothetical, but it's entertaining to see WFNY suddenly running with it like it actually happened.

 

[*L-Train*]

I'm amazed the conversation lasted two hours. From Bill Simmons:



If this is true then it looks like the Cavs aren't all that interested in being patient with a rebuild.

i wouldn't read too much into that. Bill Simmons throws out crazy trade ideas almost daily...

 

[imahustla]

I'm 99.9% sure the Hawks' "2-hour meeting" discussing that trade was hypothetical, but it's entertaining to see WFNY suddenly running with it like it actually happened.

They're just looking for hits.

I can only see that happening if we include Sessions and future picks in that deal. Smith has too much value in the market to just move for cap savings.

 

[GonzoRatso88]

Here is what Marc Stein had to say about Sessions and Jamison today in his Weekend Dime column:

The challenges involved in getting teams to surrender first-rounders also explain why the Cavaliers haven't moved Ramon Sessions yet. Interest in Sessions from the Lakers has been an open secret for weeks, but Cleveland has yet to be offered the future first-rounder it wants in exchange for a point guard made expendable by the rapid rise of rookie Kyrie Irving. There is a sense, however, that the Lakers will be more inclined to meet Cleveland's asking price on deadline day if they haven't made a bigger deal by that point.

Cavs vet Antawn Jamison, meanwhile, is heating up just in time to generate some interest, but Jamison -- not unlike Kaman -- has an expiring contract with a big salary-cap number ($15.1 million) attached. And that makes it way harder to assemble a trade.

 

[caf]

I got to thinking after I read this based on this from Ken Berger (which has no doubt been posted in two-three other places by now):

Flush with cap space and flexibility, the Cavaliers have been actively expressing a willingness to take on money for the right assets. Cleveland already is loaded with draft picks (two first-round picks in each of the next two drafts) and has a valuable commodity in Antawn Jamison -- a veteran stretch forward with an expiring contract. The problem is, contending teams that would be the best fit for Jamison -- such as Orlando or Boston -- don't have room for his $15.1 million salary or pieces they're interested in moving to make a trade work under cap rules.

What a doofus. We are only have one first round pick this year so far. We only have the right to swap with Miami this year, and Sactown isn't getting out of the lottery this year.

 

["Boobie" Gibson]

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-120309-10/weekend-dime-latest-trade-deadline-chatter

Here is what Marc Stein had to say about Sessions and Jamison today in his Weekend Dime column:

The challenges involved in getting teams to surrender first-rounders also explain why the Cavaliers haven't moved Ramon Sessions yet. Interest in Sessions from the Lakers has been an open secret for weeks, but Cleveland has yet to be offered the future first-rounder it wants in exchange for a point guard made expendable by the rapid rise of rookie Kyrie Irving. There is a sense, however, that the Lakers will be more inclined to meet Cleveland's asking price on deadline day if they haven't made a bigger deal by that point.

Cavs vet Antawn Jamison, meanwhile, is heating up just in time to generate some interest, but Jamison -- not unlike Kaman -- has an expiring contract with a big salary-cap number ($15.1 million) attached. And that makes it way harder to assemble a trade.

At the bottom it also talks about how the Wiz are possibly gaining interest in moving McGee (with the thought being that the recipient would also have to take on Blatche... EW!) It'd be nice to have a Thompson, Varejao, McGee, (and once in a long while Blatche) rotation though. McGee is a true 7 footer with great athleticism, who in my opinion would greatly strengthen our front court. Blatche, however, would more than likely prevent Cleveland from ever making a play on McGee.

 

[RTrees]

At the bottom it also talks about how the Wiz are possibly gaining interest in moving McGee (with the thought being that the recipient would also have to take on Blatche... EW!) It'd be nice to have a Thompson, Varejao, McGee, (and once in a long while Blatche) rotation though. McGee is a true 7 footer with great athleticism, who in my opinion would greatly strengthen our front court. Blatche, however, would more than likely prevent Cleveland from ever making a play on McGee.

Can we get a "No Thanks" button added to the list?

Blatche is the poster child for not reaching potential and inconsistency. And every time I think I like McGee he does something to make me shake my head. Maybe Coach could get him in the right frame of mind?

 

[3 Da Hard Way]

* The Cavs have been "aggressive" in seeking future assets for veteran Antawn Jamison, who has earned praise throughout the organization for his professional approach to being part of Cleveland's rebuilding plan, league sources said. Jamison has never complained or asked to be traded, but one team that intrigues his camp is the Lakers. The Cavs and Lakers spoke this week, but L.A. did not express serious interest in Jamsion, one of the sources said

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ken-berger/17689932/trade-deadline-update