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Ive always wanted to see that cartoon.


Who saw that Andre Miller clip?
 
bigfoot5415 said:
Ive always wanted to see that cartoon.


Who saw that Andre Miller clip?
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" I wish I could have played my entire with the Cavs organization"

- Andre Miller

Andre Miller was and still is one of my favorite Cavs of all time
 
Why did they move Andre? Ive always felt he was a starting caliber guard and probably should have been starting about half the yrs he has been coming off thw bench.
 
bigfoot5415 said:
Why did they move Andre? Ive always felt he was a starting caliber guard and probably should have been starting about half the yrs he has been coming off thw bench.
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He forced the trade by demanding a max extension, but let's not worry too much about facts right now...
 
Frank Reynolds said:
Again, this goes back to Pat Riley vs Dan Gilbert. Gilbert paid 400,000 to have a family guy cartoon made for LeBron that mocked Pat Riley's cheesy hair style.

Riley doesn't have to say a word, he simply drops on the table a ring clip, with 5 championship rings on it, and the sight says everything, no words needed, no promises needed.

Windy being away, has seen what clowns we have over here. Miami was Windy's first championship seen up close.

But please notice the differences in style between Riley and Gilbert. Riley says nothing and achieves everything. Gilbert talks a whole lot, and achieves absolutely nothing in basketball. Gilbert has maybe 1/16th of the basketball knowledge that Pat Riley has, yet Gilbert is the louder of the two mouths.

It's probably because Dan is successful in so many other areas, but this is one area where he has no expertise, only dollars. For a man who is willing to spend so much money, he should have been able to get a high-profile coach in here by now, 8-9 years later.

Nope, he falls for Mike Brown, again. He makes the same mistake twice. Ouch!

God, a kick square in the testicles would feel better than the feelings I'm feeling inside right now.

You really couldn't ask more of an owner, in terms of willingness to spend, but Dan has done nothing but get himself into trouble by opening his mouth when he should be quiet. The letter after the decision was warranted, James took advantage of Gilbert, and owed him at least a courtesy phone call. I can see why Dan was heated, but Gilbert's shenanigans carried on through the lottery, the season ticket holders meeting. He thought bringing Mike Brown back was going to bring back that winning culture, and that's simply not the case. Ever think that winning culture was because the best player in the world was on your team and he demanded winning?

We'll never give James the credit he deserves, and we'll also never give Brown the scrutiny he deserves, because it was James that brought him success.

Those were pretty great teams we had, but ultimately Mike Brown's lack of in-game awareness failed the Cavaliers organization long before LeBron quit in the Boston series of 2010.

Now Brown is the coach, again, and we're inevitably opening ourself up for James to tease us again.
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This is not a fair comparison. Pat Riley has spent his entire life in basketball, and is not an owner but hired by an owner to run a basketball organization. Dan Gilbert has spent his entire life in business, and is not a basketball guy - he hires guys with bball expertise to run the organization. It's not like he hired Isiah Thomas or David Kahn to run this organization, he's hired respected up and coming guys like Ferry, Grant and now Griffin. We are Cleveland (not NY, Miami, LA, etc.). Yes he's part of the new breed (Cuban, etc.) that rubs some folks the wrong way, but the flip side of that is that he's willing to spend the money that needs to be spent to compete.

As for Lebron, I'm not so sure it was Pat Riley that sold it for Lebron, but the fact that 2 of the top 10-15 players in the league, both having been very close friends of his, chose to fulfill their dream to play together in Miami Beach. Who really knows what was going on for Lebron but let's not oversell Riley's influence. Each of these teams that came to visit had different allures. But only one had 2 of his closest friends, both superstars, begging him to come together.

The Cavs have made some very poor decisions since 2003, but the Heat haven't been all glitter and gold in Riley's reign either. It's so easy to look back and criticize but if you don't think there's 15-20 other fan bases out there that wouldn't love to have Gilbert as their owner, you're plain wrong.
 
A lineup of
Andre
(Insert white guy shooter)
Lebron
Boozer
Z

Would have been a hell lot of fun to watch.
 
Sucks. I'm missing/missed this.
 
Not sure if it is here somewhere or not, but my favorite Z memory was his steal at one free throw line, dribble down the floor, behind the back and dunk at the other end early in his career.

Anybody have the vid/gif of that one?
 
abraxas said:
The Cavs have made some very poor decisions since 2003, but the Heat haven't been all glitter and gold in Riley's reign either. It's so easy to look back and criticize but if you don't think there's 15-20 other fan bases out there that wouldn't love to have Gilbert as their owner, you're plain wrong.
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They haven't been all glitter and gold but they've won two championships. I stopped reading right there. The goal in everything is winning championships "but they have made some mistakes too!"

Yeah! but they won two fucking championships!

Christ what are you getting at? Seriously

And if you don't think Riley was the one that allowed the situation to happen in the first place, if Pat didn't gut the team and set them up there'd be no Miami Heat. It would have been a mathematical impossibility.
 
Kevalier said:
It must be convenient to have "throwaway comments" in one's life.
Tell me sir, if you told your girlfriend that you PERSONALLY GUARANTEETHAT I WILL MARRY YOU, would she see it as "throwaway"?
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LOL is this a serious question or are you blatantly trolling? That is such a bad analogy, I can't even tell your intentions with it.
 
Can't wait to see a video of all the activities. NBA TV sucks.
 
<blockquoteclass="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>LeBron James being interviewed by Access Cavaliers. Is this real life? <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23AllForZ&amp;src=hash">#AllForZ</a> <a href="http://t.co/aa8dL40OvX">pic.twitter.com/aa8dL40OvX</a></p>&mdash; Glenn Moore (@GlennMooreCLE) <a href="https://twitter.com/GlennMooreCLE/statuses/442483300360142848">March 9, 2014</a></blockquote> <script asyncsrc="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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