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Zydrunas Ilgauskas Jersey Retirement Celebration

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Man I miss the guy (LBJ). Can't stand him, but miss him and those great times. Nothing will ever live up to him winning one for these fans - there are no fans like this anywhere.

Z's a class act, great ceremony.
 
Again, this goes back to Pat Riley vs Dan Gilbert. Gilbert paid 400,000 to have a family guy cartoon made for LeBron that mocked Pat Riley's cheesy hair style.

Riley doesn't have to say a word, he simply drops on the table a ring clip, with 5 championship rings on it, and the sight says everything, no words needed, no promises needed.

Windy being away, has seen what clowns we have over here. Miami was Windy's first championship seen up close.

But please notice the differences in style between Riley and Gilbert. Riley says nothing and achieves everything. Gilbert talks a whole lot, and achieves absolutely nothing in basketball. Gilbert has maybe 1/16th of the basketball knowledge that Pat Riley has, yet Gilbert is the louder of the two mouths.

It's probably because Dan is successful in so many other areas, but this is one area where he has no expertise, only dollars. For a man who is willing to spend so much money, he should have been able to get a high-profile coach in here by now, 8-9 years later.

Nope, he falls for Mike Brown, again. He makes the same mistake twice. Ouch!

God, a kick square in the testicles would feel better than the feelings I'm feeling inside right now.

You really couldn't ask more of an owner, in terms of willingness to spend, but Dan has done nothing but get himself into trouble by opening his mouth when he should be quiet. The letter after the decision was warranted, James took advantage of Gilbert, and owed him at least a courtesy phone call. I can see why Dan was heated, but Gilbert's shenanigans carried on through the lottery, the season ticket holders meeting. He thought bringing Mike Brown back was going to bring back that winning culture, and that's simply not the case. Ever think that winning culture was because the best player in the world was on your team and he demanded winning?

We'll never give James the credit he deserves, and we'll also never give Brown the scrutiny he deserves, because it was James that brought him success.

Those were pretty great teams we had, but ultimately Mike Brown's lack of in-game awareness failed the Cavaliers organization long before LeBron quit in the Boston series of 2010.

Now Brown is the coach, again, and we're inevitably opening ourself up for James to tease us again.

Got to give you credit man, your like a broken record, I can't remember the last positive post you have posted lately.
 
Please don't make this thread about LeBron, take it to the Safari thread.

That being said, almost drew tears from me even watching from my dorm room.. I bought a throwback Z shirt before the game, what a great way to cap off his career.
 
And if you don't think Riley was the one that allowed the situation to happen in the first place, if Pat didn't gut the team and set them up there'd be no Miami Heat. It would have been a mathematical impossibility.

Oh, I'm sure just about any team would have done the same if they had a few years' notice of a similar tip by one of their players. Riley was just the beneficiary of Wade recruiting LBJ and Bosh years before the decision.

Leaving that crap aside, it was cool to see Joe Tait there as well. Given how Tait isn't exactly a guy who loves NBA limelight, it says a lot about Z as a person that Joe was there.
 
For those who missed it:

[video=youtube;hFPIEs0rNXc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFPIEs0rNXc[/video]

Doesn't include Embry's speech (didn't miss much there) or Gilberts.
 
They haven't been all glitter and gold but they've won two championships. I stopped reading right there. The goal in everything is winning championships "but they have made some mistakes too!"

Yeah! but they won two fucking championships!

Christ what are you getting at? Seriously

And if you don't think Riley was the one that allowed the situation to happen in the first place, if Pat didn't gut the team and set them up there'd be no Miami Heat. It would have been a mathematical impossibility.

The only reason Pat gutted the team was because the big 3 colluded to form a super team much before. Pat cant do squat if they did not form the big 3.
 
The only reason Pat gutted the team was because the big 3 colluded to form a super team much before. Pat cant do squat if they did not form the big 3.

This point is often forgotten. Wade surely told Riley to prepare for LeBron and Bosh's arrival, and so he did. The trades they completed made absolutely no sense unless he absolutely knew he could sign two max contract players.
 
Watching Z's interview with Mike Snyder on Fox Sports Ohio. Reminding me of what the poor man went through with all the foot injuries. The willpower and strength this man has is amazing. He has a very unique love of the game, and his team mates. 99.999% of the players in the NBA woulda said fuck it and gave up. God bless ya Z, a very well deserved honor.
 
God I fucking hate ESPN.

"Zydrunas and Lebron back together again. If they had the 3 other guys who's names I forget, they could get the band back together again!"
 
I really dont mind the Cavs losing, but tonight - The one night when there is more media coverage on you, when one of your own is being honoured, when you are facing a team short of confidence and struggling what do we do? We lay a big fat egg. What a disappointment ! What an *effin* disappointment!!!!!
 
Windy has been spewing shit for a month now, claiming LeBron and Kyrie don't want to play together, and now this article. Please, if LeBron asked Kyrie if he could join the Cavs, Kyrie isn't going to turn down the best player in the NBA. It's dumb shit like that, he acts like he's inside LeBron's head. LeBron doesn't want to play with Kyrie (opinion), and he acts like he knows what LeBron is doing, no one knows what LeBron will decide to do. It's pure bull-shit speculation.

However, hell of a night... Great production from the Cavs. Seeing Big Z all those clips brought back many, many memories. Got teary eyed actually. It was nice seeing Delonte, Boobie and LeBron together, brought back some great memories. So happy for this to happen to a guy like Z, pure class and loves Cleveland. Love that guy, memories I will never forget.
 
Players like Z are what being a die hard fan is about. A rare thing to see in this age of free agency.
 
Another great little tidbit from ESPN... The Z retirement clip where they talk about Z getting his number retired is called "LeBron Returns", where they show the names on the left side of the screen...
 
Was there. Production-wise, everything looked great. Those graphics on the court were awesome. (side-note: The Q might need to consider some renovations, it's just looking a tiny bit dated

Z deserved it all. I'd you were there, you could see how much the city adores him. It was REALLY cool to see all those Cavalier legends standing side-by-side.

As a viewer in the arena, it seemed like none us could tell where LBJ was. I assumed he was in a suite. Didn't really give it too much thought. Reading all this info now... I'm still trying to make sense of it all. I mean, Grant and LBJ were sitting in that close proximity of Dan Gilbert and the current roster? Does this not blow anyone else's mind? I'm legit puzzeled. This has to be one off the most bizarre nights in Cavs history.
 
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LeBron James’ visit to Cleveland to honor ‘Z’ is surreal

By Jason Lloyd
Beacon Journal sports writer

CLEVELAND: Three years, seven months and 27 days after “The Decision” and “The Letter,” LeBron James walked into Quicken Loans Arena to celebrate a part of Cleveland.

Forget tampering. James’ appearance at Zydrunas Ilgauskas’ jersey retirement ceremony Saturday night wasn’t tampering. It was the end to months — years — of hard work spent repairing a relationship that was previously detonated in one night.

The man wearing the tool belt all these years was there Saturday, too, a quiet spectator and now former employee lost as just another face in the massive crowd honoring a dear friend. Chris Grant spent the past three-plus years mending this relationship on both sides, then took a seat Saturday night on the Cavs’ bench next to James for Ilgauskas’ ceremony Saturday.

Yes, James spent the ceremony sitting on the Cavs’ bench next to the general manager who was fired a month ago, while the Cavs players sat along the baseline after leaving the locker room and watched. You can’t make this stuff up.

Grant and James laughed and chatted throughout the speeches, snapping pictures of Ilgauskas and his plaque, then took more pictures as his honorary jersey was raised for the first time.
As Ilgauskas left the floor, he thumped James on the chest, then his wife, Jennifer, hugged James on her way out.

The fact James could walk into the Q and listen to a speech from Dan Gilbert at center court, just 3½ years after the two managed to set the organization on fire, is nothing short of remarkable.

How did we get here? Follow along.

James is represented by his close friend Rich Paul, who also happens to be Tristan Thompson’s agent. Paul is also the man who called Grant on the night of July 8, 2010, and told him LeBron wasn’t coming back to Cleveland. Five minutes later, James went on national television and told everyone else himself.

At the time, Paul wasn’t James’ agent, just a close friend and one of the “R’s” in James’ LRMR marketing firm. The agent thing came later. But despite all the shots fired in Gilbert’s epic letter, Grant and Paul remained close. Having Thompson on the team kept the lines of communication open, then Paul conveniently took James as a client.

In order for LeBron to entertain the idea of some day returning to Cleveland, Grant had to repair that relationship. That’s what made the Yahoo Sports story a few weeks ago misguided. Grant was portrayed in it as the scapegoat, the bumbling general manager who missed on so many top picks in the draft and squandered away any chance at James returning.

In truth, Grant’s relationship with Paul was the launching point to any reasonable thought about James ever coming home.

Now Grant is gone and Ilgauskas, the man James adores, the man for whom he made this highly unusual trip, will likely be next. It’s an open secret in certain circles that Ilgauskas is unhappy in his role with the Cavs.:( He was the assistant to the general manager, only that general manager is gone.

Ilgauskas has become a ghost at Cavs games, rarely spotted around Cleveland Clinic Courts or the Q since Grant was fired. It’s what made Saturday’s ceremony so surreal. There remains palpable unhappiness from Ilgauskas toward certain facets of the organization, yet all that was put aside and the halftime show with no budget went off as planned Saturday night.

There was a touching video tribute of Z’s career, speeches from Wayne Embry, Gilbert and Ilgauskas himself. Friends and former players lined the entrance as Ilgauskas walked on and off the floor.

It was such a production and involved so many moving parts that it required a midweek practice run just to make sure all the key parties knew of their responsibilities. Michael Jordan didn’t even get this type of treatment from the Bulls when his jersey was retired.

It’s no coincidence how this night was chosen. The Cavs, and specifically Grant, carefully selected this date. The Heat were off for the previous two nights and happened to be in Chicago, just a short flight away. The New York Knicks, and by extension a larger-than-usual visiting media contingent, just happened to be in town. That’s what made this the perfect night for what was perhaps the first gigantic step toward James’ return to this franchise.

It was all the intricate planning of the former general manager, who was the architect for this ceremony and James’ role in it months ago. The rest of us didn’t figure it out until last week.

As for Ilgauskas’ future, no one really expects Z to return to this role next season.

He made more than $124 million in his career, so he certainly isn’t working for the money. Ilgauskas remains incredibly close to Grant and will probably move on to something else next year.

Yes, the Cavs underachieved this season. Yes, Grant tried feverishly for the past two years, but could never find that second star to pair with Kyrie Irving and ultimately serve as the bait to lure James back to the Cavs.

But the Cavs privately believe it’s not too late. They still have the assets to pull off a mammoth trade this summer at the draft, the type Grant tried so hard to make. Kevin Love will be entering the final year of his contract, as will LaMarcus Aldridge. Grant tried for two years to unsuccessfully pry both stars out of their current cities, but each had too many years left on their contracts for their current teams to consider it. That’s no longer true.

If either the Minnesota Timberwolves or Portland Trail Blazers come to the conclusion they can’t re-sign their stars, this summer is the time to move them and the Cavs will be at the front of the line, stocked with young players and future draft picks.

After the ceremony ended, James lingered on the floor. He gave Daniel Gibson a hug and greeted Delonte West. Then the three former teammates posed for a picture, along with former assistant coach Melvin Hunt.

I repeat, James and West posed for a picture together on the floor of Quicken Loans Arena.

The entire night was strange, surreal and electric. The picture of former teammates was a striking memory to the franchise’s glory days, when players laughed, danced and pretended to pose for pictures during pregame introductions — and even during those lopsided blowouts.

And when it was over, LeBron climbed onto his charter flight and flew to meet his team in Chicago, returning to the life he chose four years ago. The Cavs have been busy preparing for the moment when he’ll come back and sit on their bench again.

Is it a fantasy? It might certainly appear that way from the outside, but inside the walls of Cleveland Clinic Courts there is a strong belief they will be in the discussion this summer, that maybe, just maybe, LeBron James will fly to Cleveland again and sit on their bench next season.

http://www.ohio.com/sports/cavs/jas...t-to-cleveland-to-honor-z-is-surreal-1.471855
 

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