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2014 NFL Draft Thread

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No way we get #2 overall with #26 and next year's first. It would take several other assets on top of that which for a team in our position isn't wise to give up.
 
I've been screaming to trade up from 26 for months. It makes sense in this draft class, and the team is already looking good with talent on the roster, just need a few important position to get over the hump.

I'd deal 26 and next years first, but definitely not a Washington type deal. Considering the Browns have picked top 10 the last some odd years, I'm sure there would be interest with those two first rounders.

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Actually, "with this draft class" you'd want as many picks as possible. Yes, the top 4-5 players are very good, but this draft is very very deep, and you'd never get back into the top 5 without making a Redskins type of trade.....
 
A king's ransom to move up 2 spots? I doubt that.
 
A king's ransom to move up 2 spots? I doubt that.

They're talking about getting #2 overall while keeping #4 overall.

Which would take a king's ransom, considering the value on our 2015 draft pick would tank in value if we drafted Bortles/Bridgewater along with say Sammy Watkins along with the additions of Tate, Dansby, and Whitner.
 
Why would that even be discussed here. It would never happen.
 
Why would that even be discussed here. It would never happen.

I agree. it won't happen.

However, going back to 2009, we traded #5 for #17, #52, Brett Ratliff, Abe Elam, and Kenyon Coleman.

Think the Rams would consider #26 + #36 + 2015 1st though. The Rams shouldn't and probably aren't expecting a Redskins trade, the QBs in this draft aren't nearly as hyped as Luck and RGIII.
 
Man, is everyone drunk? No way we could get 2 and 4. It would take 2-3 1sts 2-3 seconds. What would it take for you to trade #4?
 
Man, is everyone drunk? No way we could get 2 and 4. It would take 2-3 1sts 2-3 seconds. What would it take for you to trade #4?

No one is saying it's going to happen..

You're drunk if you think it'd take 3 1sts and 3 2nds. A sure fire franchise QB isn't in this draft, and the price for that was "only" 3 1sts and 1 2nd.
 
To keep our #4, yes, it would take an absolutely disgusting king's ransom that we would never give up.
 
No one is saying it's going to happen..

You're drunk if you think it'd take 3 1sts and 3 2nds. A sure fire franchise QB isn't in this draft, and the price for that was "only" 3 1sts and 1 2nd.

First off I never said it would take 3, 1sts and 2nds, I said two to three. Also, that trade included a top 5 pick! So that alone had a ton of value. I would assume/hope that if were able to keep # 4 and got # 2, that none of the future pics owed would be top 5 let alone top 10.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Not a bad time for him. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnOehser">@JohnOehser</a>: Teddy Bridgewater opts not to run second 40. Stands on unofficial 4.78</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/statuses/445563276957458432">March 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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A few QB's 40 times from this year:

Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech - 4.61

Stephen Morris, Miami - 4.63

Connor Shaw, South Carolina - 4.66

Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M - 4.68 (4.56 u)

Derek Carr, Fresno St. 4.69 (4.65 u)

Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois - 4.76 (4.72 u)

Tajh Boyd, Clemson 4.84 - (4.75 u)

Blake Bortles, Central Florida - 4.93 (4.81 u)

AJ McCarron, Alabama - 4.94 (4.91 u)

Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois - 4.97 (4.93 u)
 
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First off I never said it would take 3, 1sts and 2nds, I said two to three. Also, that trade included a top 5 pick! So that alone had a ton of value. I would assume/hope that if were able to keep # 4 and got # 2, that none of the future pics owed would be top 5 let alone top 10.

The hilarity of trading a massive amount of picks, depleting your stock in one of the deepest drafts in years would be a move all too typical of the Browns these last 15 years.

Would be a shocking amount of stupid, IMO.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Not a bad time for him. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnOehser">@JohnOehser</a>: Teddy Bridgewater opts not to run second 40. Stands on unofficial 4.78</p>— Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/statuses/445563276957458432">March 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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A few QB's 40 times from this year:

Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech - 4.61

Stephen Morris, Miami - 4.63

Connor Shaw, South Carolina - 4.66

Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M - 4.68 (4.56 u)

Derek Carr, Fresno St. 4.69 (4.65 u)

Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois - 4.76 (4.72 u)

Tajh Boyd, Clemson 4.84 - (4.75 u)

Blake Bortles, Central Florida - 4.93 (4.81 u)

AJ McCarron, Alabama - 4.94 (4.91 u)

Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois - 4.97 (4.93 u)

40 time for a QB is as important as pitch speed for a DH in baseball. Running QB's are different yes, thats understandable.
 
40 time for a QB is as important as pitch speed for a DH in baseball. Running QB's are different yes, thats understandable.

Some ability to move around in the pocket and avoid the rush is certainly important in the NFL. Look at Weeden in the face of pressure for proof. I've been saying since week four or five that there isn't a definite franchise QB in this draft, but there are a few who may learn to be one in a few years. Knowing that none of these guys has the speed to be a legit running QB cements it.
 
Some ability to move around in the pocket and avoid the rush is certainly important in the NFL. Look at Weeden in the face of pressure for proof. I've been saying since week four or five that there isn't a definite franchise QB in this draft, but there are a few who may learn to be one in a few years. Knowing that none of these guys has the speed to be a legit running QB cements it.

I'm not sure if you meant to connect it, but IMO 40 time has absolutely nothing to do with pocket quickness, aside from speed of feet movement. Pocket awareness MUST be coupled with quick feet in order for a QB to succeed within the pocket.
 

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