What separates Shumperts from being a decent offensive player is a lack of handles. Just don't see that improving.
Sounds like he's already eyeing his next contract (rightfully so) since he's about to hit his "prime", whatever that is.
Anyways just another bad Griffin contract we'll be trying to get rid off soon. Next in line will be Korver, who we inexplicably gave 7mil/3 yrs at 36. RJ's contract length was weird too. Anyone remember that absurd AV deal?
Shump was a good signing at the time. A bargain, even, considering the market. He'd just come off a very good finals run.
David Griffin didn't re-sign Korver. Griff was gone by then.
RJ got two years after playing a significant role in the finals, for essentially minimum money. Not sure what's weird about that.
The Varejao one... actually, for as much of a head-scratcher as it was at the time from a basketball standpoint, it made a ton of sense. He was a respected vet getting one last pay day to stick around and help the young guys. Not the front office's fault he tore an achilles. Plus, the fact his last year was non-guaranteed helped this team land Channing.
yup. everyone's looking at these deals through the prism of the post-KD to the warriors NBA, where if you don't have 4 elite players on team friendly contracts your front office is terrible
Shumpert has role on this team if he wants it. It's up to him to carve it out and prove himself on a consistent basis.
We know he's gonna shoot about 35-38% from 3. And that's fine. If he improves more, wonderful, great! But if he stays in the mid 30's...his role is not defined by hitting threes.
He doesn't have to dribble or handle the ball at all.
He doesn't even have to be a good overall defender.
But if he wants, he can become the guy we situationally put on opposing PGs, particularly the quick and explosive ones. If he can just focus his pea-brain on becoming our go-to man defender against quick PG's...he will have a consistent role on his team. He will play most nights. He will get a solid 10-12 minutes. All he has to do is come in and commit to shutting The PGs water off. Guys like Wall, Kyrie, Lowry, Schroeder, Westbrook, Conley, Paul, Harden...etc..etc
We know he can do it. He can hit 35% on 3, suck at everything else...but if he can slow down PGs when we ask...he will have a role
I'm Not counting on it
Shump was a good signing at the time. A bargain, even, considering the market. He'd just come off a very good finals run.
David Griffin didn't re-sign Korver. Griff was gone by then.
RJ got two years after playing a significant role in the finals, for essentially minimum money. Not sure what's weird about that.
The Varejao one... actually, for as much of a head-scratcher as it was at the time from a basketball standpoint, it made a ton of sense. He was a respected vet getting one last pay day to stick around and help the young guys. Not the front office's fault he tore an achilles. Plus, the fact his last year was non-guaranteed helped this team land Channing.
The league knew what he was at that time. I don't think got too many offers and he was exactly in that area where you let the market call his value. Most players coming off deep playoffs run tend to get overvalued by their teams because at some point over that run, they will have gotten a chance to give good minutes at a very high stage. It never means they can reproduce that over a year. Remember Troy Daniels in HOU?
Ehh oops. Slipped by.
Why hamstring yourself like that. You really think someone who was about to retire would have turned down a 1+1 team option? The only other rationale would have been the mindset that they couldn't pick up someone better for the minimum at age 37, which is wrong processing for a contender.
At 32 years old with his type of game and coming off two season ending injuries, the writing was on the wall. Nothing against Varejao but with the Lebron return, every dollar not well spent was either going to kill our flexibility or multiply our tax liability. Best yet.. he was already under contract when we handed him the money.
I wouldn't call them hindsight. In a realgm thread about the Shumpert signing and there was a sizable amount who thought it an overpay. https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1396610#start_hereThese are criticisms I can get behind, even if I disagree with them. I think the Shumpert signing is more along the lines of hindsight being 20/20.
RJ... that's fair. I'm just not going to get up in arms about two years vs. one though, especially when he has been an integral part of the locker room. I think we so often look for upgrades in talent that we forget how important it is to have a guy like RJ who has no problems riding the bench, but will keep the locker room loose and is ready when called upon. I would hardly agree that they're hamstrung by RJ's deal. I'd argue that the predicament they're in now is because they rushed to sign Calderon for no reason.
And my opinion of the Varejao deal may also be a victim of hindsight being 20/20 because of how big a role Channing has played on and off the floor with this team. He, along with RJ, may just be the reason the team got Kevin Love back on his game. That alone is worth the Varejao deal, without even mentioning the impact he's had on the floor.
I think Lue had “Stay in your lane” talk with Shump. As we stand now, we don’t really need him, but we could still use him if he decides he wants to play his role. Ironically, Shump in my opinion, is the last player that we have on our team, that is not buying into greater plan. We took the rest of the out fitters out. Great.