gourimoko
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Okay, maybe we will revisit it again the next time I don't like a movie as much as you did?
Sounds like a plan!
Okay, maybe we will revisit it again the next time I don't like a movie as much as you did?
Black Panther ain't got shit on the Pink Panther.
More or less how I felt about it. I think it got overhyped by the people on this board a bit, which probably impacted my thoughts on the film. Perfectly good comic book film, but I agree that I'd probably rank it behind Ragnarok, Homecoming, Guardians 1, Civil War, and Winter Soldier. It's like borderline top tier for a Marvel movie, but not quite there.
Visually it was fantastic, though.
The villain's story is so compelling and the Jabari so own the comic relief, that Black Panther and Wakanda itself came out a little flat for me.
A limit to Wakanda's power (i.e. enough Vibranium for a small country like Wakanda to last an eternity but only enough to power the world for a 100 as example would have added another moral layer that would have balanced out Killmonger's moral claims well and fit in with the MCU: the Spiderman quandary)
and some plausible reason for the most advanced country both technologically and in terms of humanism to still use ritual combat (i.e. it's just show combat) would have pushed it up to a 10/10.
The way Wakanda was portrayed is mostly how it is in the comics; but I think they may have taken a lighter angle on the Wakandan people and their ideology, and that's why it might be confusing.
The reason Wakanda does not share Vibranium in the film, is because it's dangerous, and they've seen for countless generations that modern nations cannot be trusted with that kind of technological power.
But beyond that, Wakandans are actually quite hostile to outsiders, wholly and totally isolationist and very xenophobic. We see this when T'Challa asks W'Kabi about helping refugees. W'Kabi suggests that if T'Challa (or his father) had asked him or the tribes in general to invade the rest of Africa, or even the world -- that they would follow his lead -- but that isolationism is really their way. They're not interested in sharing their technology or their advancements, with anyone, even if it means the loss of life.
To Killmonger, this was a despicable and detestable stance to take with so much suffering in the world...
Only after T'Challa defeats Killmonger does he decide to embrace his more progressive viewpoint.
Well, we have our own ancient and odd traditions as well, right? For example, why do many of us cut the skin off of our newborn babies penises? Or consider the fact that millions of Americans have themselves fully immersed into water to be "baptized," and millions more ritualistically eat the flesh and drink the blood of a 2,000 year old dead (but reborn) Jewish rabbi.
With that being said .. I think I'd argue that they have their own particular cultural traditions that, more or less, have gone without outside influence for generations -- so that's why they've not adopted a more "modern" approach to governance. Because think about it, where would those ideas, and that culture even come from?
I didn’t realize he made that shitty Iron Man 3 either. New Predator looks really badI saw the new Predator movie trailer and i hate it. Seems like the director doesnt seem to get what made the original movie fun - weird considering he was in the original.
I didn’t realize he made that shitty Iron Man 3 either. New Predator looks really bad
Just watched 'Lincoln'.
Talk about a 180 from Bill Cutting.
Was there even such thing as Presidential security back then?
The villain's story is so compelling and the Jabari so own the comic relief, that Black Panther and Wakanda itself came out a little flat for me.
A limit to Wakanda's power (i.e. enough Vibranium for a small country like Wakanda to last an eternity but only enough to power the world for a 100 as example would have added another moral layer that would have balanced out Killmonger's moral claims well and fit in with the MCU: the Spiderman quandary) and some plausible reason for the most advanced country both technologically and in terms of humanism to still use ritual combat (i.e. it's just show combat) would have pushed it up to a 10/10. Still an excellent movie and would love a Killmonger netflix series but that's probably too small fry for Michael B Jordan
Black Panther ain't got shit on the Pink Panther.