LeBron Free Agency Part II (Rumors, Speculation, Spin, Discussion)

CavsRules said:

Antawn Jamison's 19 points per game career wise, and 20 points per game(15 with Cavs), last season isn't worthy of a "second option" kinda guy? He also averaged 45 percent with Washington and 48 percent from the field with both teams last season from the field.

Age card will probably be used to argue this, but he isn't showing signs of age with the way he's produced the last two seasons.

Obviously he isn't no Pippen, but he can put the ball in the basket..

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He's not a second option in the sense of Pau Gasol, whoever was the second option of KG/PP/Ray, Parker or Ginobili, Shaq on the Heat, etc. If we had two Jamison-type players (not Mo), we'd be okay. But Jamison did not show up on a consistent enough basis in the playoffs for me to consider him a true second option.

Everyone who is underestimating the idea of getting Jefferson for next to nothing, you are forgetting an important piece...David Kahn.

I'm not sure if they can make it anymore clear that they want Jefferson gone. Sign Darko to a 20 million dollar deal should have been enough. But knowing David Lee is is number 1 target in FA...well, that's all I need to know.

Is there a serviceable starting center (I consider Jefferson a PF) the Cavs can pick up this offseason? Where's the stuff with Haywood right now?

CavsRules said:

Antawn Jamison's 19 points per game career wise, and 20 points per game(15 with Cavs), last season isn't worthy of a "second option" kinda guy? He also averaged 45 percent with Washington and 48 percent from the field with both teams last season.

Age card will probably be used to argue this, but he isn't showing signs of age with the way he's produced the last two seasons.

Obviously he isn't no Pippen, but he can put the ball in the basket..

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Antawn is much more suited to coming off the bench as the 6th man imo, which I think he did back in Dallas iirc. He generally got his numbers on bad teams that played at a fast pace and inflated his stats. His stats were more like garbage numbers than anything. People have gone more in depth on the numbers AJ put up than I have, but putting up 20/10 like Tim Duncan did on the Spurs is a whole lot different than the type of 20/10 Zach Randolph puts up. He's more Randolph than Duncan if you catch my drift.

I'd still like for us to go after Jermaine O'Neal. He said he'd sign on for the Vet's min on a contender, so I say we go for him. Apart from an abysmal showing against Boston where he was asked to be the 2nd option, I still think he can be a serviceable big for us. He has a nice 15 foot jumper so it'll open up the paint for Lebron, and he's still bulky enough to adequately defend the Dwight Howards, not to mention he'll get us a solid 2 blocks a game.

He may be washed up, but he won't drag us down and clog the paint the way our last O'Neal did.

I'm going to go jump head-first off of a cliff the next time someone harps on the absolute dire necessity of a "true second option"...

Most over-rated term in basketball...

Rich said:

Everyone who is underestimating the idea of getting Jefferson for next to nothing, you are forgetting an important piece...David Kahn.

I'm not sure if they can make it anymore clear that they want Jefferson gone. Sign Darko to a 20 million dollar deal should have been enough. But knowing David Lee is is number 1 target in FA...well, that's all I need to know.

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So you think Delonte + Moon + Telfair can get Al Jeff? Throw in Green?

LeShaq said:

Is there a serviceable starting center the Cavs can pick up this offseason? Where's the stuff with Haywood right now?

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From what I understand he wants more $$ than we can offer, around 8-10mill per, and the mavs refute any S&T with shaq.

Northstar said:

So you think Delonte + Moon + Telfair can get Al Jeff? Throw in Green?

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Not to say any of those guys shouldn't be thrown in the package, but geez do u think we could through in any more guards lol

Mike Miller = Love it. Perfect fit.

Does worry me about the Cavs plans in the frontcourt. I'm cool with defensive-minded guys who will rebound, block shots, and dunk the basketball when LeBron hits them with an open look.

Northstar said:

So you think Delonte + Moon + Telfair can get Al Jeff? Throw in Green?

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You gotta give them some sort of talent back. Damn. If you want AJ, then you have to give up Hickson

Northstar said:

So you think Delonte + Moon + Telfair can get Al Jeff? Throw in Green?

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I think if I offered him a bag of Jolly Ranchers Jefferson would be gone.

Widely reported he did everything he could to unload him at draft time. Wisely, teams were holding their cards though and not willing to give up on the dream of getting a big time FA.

jvpertz said:

From nevadabuck today


Lebron 100% to the Cavs

This will be Lebron's last foray as a courted free agent. Inner circle feels that his brand has taken an unreal hit due to the supposed free agency tour and everything else. Also, the canceling of the free agent tour was essentially showing a giant sea change in how the Lebron thing was going to go from here on out for the rest of his career.

Also, Nevada broke the WWW out of the James' circle story about a week ago.

The hold up is getting lebronjames.com off the ground. Nevada says that Thursday will be THE day. The official announcement will be from the site.

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As much as I'd love to put stock in this source, I'm not jumping to any conclusions yet.

Also, Heath posted this exact quote over at RealGM Cavs ...

dreamingof1964 said:

From what I understand he wants more $$ than we can offer, around 8-10mill per, and the mavs refute any S&T with shaq.

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Thanks.

That's too bad. I think he could be a good fit for us, with his size and length.

InBoobieWeTrust said:

I'm going to go jump head-first off of a cliff the next time someone harps on the absolute dire necessity of a "true second option"...

Most over-rated term in basketball...

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You have to go back to the Pistons (who had prime Chauncey, prime Rip, prime Prince, close to prime Sheed) to find a team that won a championship without their second player being better offensively than Jamison. And I'm not even sure that prime Rip, prime Chauncey, and Sheed of that year aren't all better than Jamison right now. It's just hard to compare that team because any one of those three could be the #1 option depending on the night.

What made that Pistons team great was that they were all pretty much lock down defenders and Ben Wallace was a beast and a half in the middle.

InBoobieWeTrust said:

I'm going to go jump head-first off of a cliff the next time someone harps on the absolute dire necessity of a "true second option"...

Most over-rated term in basketball...

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Hell, give me an absolute lock down defender before a second option in my opinion. The fact that McHale and Pippen were world class defenders is what made them so valuable to their teams, not that they were really capable of carrying the load on any given night (though I guess McHale was more equipped to do this than Pippen was). This is why I still wanna go after Iggy. Not to mention a Lebron-Iggy-JJ fastbreak will never leave you unsatisfied.