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Here's how I see it.

Dallas bought the 25th pick, that was the first pick sold purely for cash. After that, three Centers were taken in the draft.

Daniel Orton
Hassan Whiteside
Solomon Alabi

Now, look at those three guys. All three are multi-year projects. All have red flags, Whiteside is a toothpick with major attitude problems. Alabi never really did anything in college that tends to translate well into the NBA. His scoring won't translate and his bad rebounding will translate...into more bad rebounding.

Orton was the most intriguing of the three prospects because he has a great NBA body..but his stock dropped amid injury and attitude concerns. And let's be real, the dude averaged 3 points and rebounds per game last year.

My question is, are any of these guys clearly better than giving Sasha Kaun an opportunity? If Kaun re-entered the draft, where would he have gone?

I like Orton still, but I can understand being hesitant in getting him. But while talking about all the other stiffs that went in the 2nd round like Whiteside and Pittman and Alabi..I can't help but think we may have a better option, who's already spent an extra year or two developing as a player, already under our control.
I think two of those players have more upside than Kaun. So why not take a flier on one, keep Kaun overseas another year, and see what happens? They might not turn out, of course, and meanwhile Kaun would be getting even MORE game time experience. But they might surprise people and be the sleeper of the draft.

I wasn't very high on Whiteside, and taking him would be the biggest risk because if LeBron happens to leave, his attitude problems would almost surely become a major issue. So I guess if you go in knowing this player only has a chance to succeed if LeBron returns...and you think LeBron will likely be back...it would probably be a worthwhile risk.

Orton would have been a solid pick and IMO Orlando will groom him to be one of the best backup centers in the league (much like Gortat, who will probably be moved). His numbers in college weren't amazing. But remember he was playing behind the most dominant big man (maybe even most dominant overall) in college basketball. More exposure would've been very good for him, I think.

I guess we'll see what happens. Maybe we'll bring Kaun over and he'll work out. But maybe not. Hopefully we at least get one of the undrafted players on our summer league team and give him a shot there...
 
Cavs quiet on busy night

Published: Friday, June 25, 2010

By Bob Finnan

RFinnan@News-Herald.com


The gears are already starting to turn.

Both Miami and Chicago made salary cap-saving deals in the last two days trying to open up room to sign two maximum free agents this summer.

Both teams will attempt to sign LeBron James during the most anticipated free-agent period in NBA history. James will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1.

The Cavaliers, meanwhile, weren't able to improve their team in Thursday's NBA draft. Chris Grant, now running his first draft since becoming general manager, failed to acquire a pick.

It wasn't for lack of trying. Grant and Cavs assistant GM Lance Blanks talked to many teams, but were unable to get anything done. The Cavs recently had a face-to-face meeting with James, possibly in Akron. Grant described the meeting as "business as usual." He said he doesn't know if he'll meet with James again before July 1.

There were rumors that the Cavs tried to acquire Chicago's No. 17 pick and select Kentucky point guard Eric Bledsoe.

However, the Bulls carved out more cap space by sending guard Kirk Hinrich and the 17th pick to Washington for a future second-round pick.

The Cavs were supposedly enamored with Bledsoe, who is being compared to Celtics guard Rajon Rondo, also from Kentucky. Bledsoe was drafted by Oklahoma City one pick later and traded to the Los Angeles Clippers.

On Wednesday, the Heat dumped their first-round pick, No. 18, and guard Daequan Cook to Oklahoma City for the Thunder's second-round pick, No. 32 overall. That saved the Heat about $2 million.

"That doesn't concern me at all," Grant said. "We won 61 games last year. We've been the best team in the league the last two years. We have a culture and philosophy that's in place.

"All of our guys believe in winning. LeBron James knows how important he is to Northeast Ohio. We have a young core of players. From our standpoint, our concern is on us and our team and building and getting better."

Earlier in the day, ESPN reported that Golden State's No. 6 pick could have been had if a team assumed guard Monta Ellis' massive contract.

They didn't find any takers.

"There were a few guys we were interested in that we targeted (in the draft)," Grant said. "We were hopeful a few would fall.

"I think we were close, but not real close."

He said the Cavs targeted some bigs in the draft.

"We're not in a rebuilding situation," he said. "We want to keep that core and move forward."

Grant said he hopes to have guard Christian Eyenga, their 2009 first-round pick, play on the Cavs summer league team.

Center Sasha Kahn will spend a few days with the team in Las Vegas, but will not play.

Not only did the Cavs fail to add any talent to their roster, their coaching search is on hold until Lakers coach Phil Jackson makes a decision on his future.

Two top candidates for the Cavs' job, Byron Scott and Brian Shaw, have both targeted the Lakers' position if Jackson retires.

Many observers around the league think the 49-year-old Scott is high on the Cavs' list, perhaps No. 1. The former Nets and Hornets coach has already been interviewed by the Cavs. He would only probably be interested in the Cavs if James re-signs.

Shaw, an assistant coach on Jackson's staff, could also be in the mix with the Cavs. The 44-year-old has never been a head coach, but power broker "Worldwide Wes" William Wesley has been promoting him for job openings. The Lakers are also high on his potential as a future head coach.

"As we get closer, the field will narrow itself down and we'll make a decision," Grant said.
 
I already gave some of the argument in here, but to the Whiteside/Alabi lovers, there is a reason those guys slipped so far. Here is a little something I wrote on center prospects in the draft. You can read the text, but I'll just paste the last five drafts and the career averages of college centers based on when they were drafted (top 20 vs. after #20)...

http://www.numbersdont.com/?p=2553

<table>
<thead>
<tr>
<th>Year</th>
<th>Top 20 picks (Career PPG, RPG)</th>
<th>Picks after #20 (Career PPG, RPG)</th>
</tr>
</thead>
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>2005</td>
<td>Andrew Bogut (12.7, 9.0),
Channing Frye (8.9, 4.7)</td>
<td>Robert Whaley (2.1, 1.9)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2006</td>
<td>Patrick O'Bryant (2.1, 1.4),
Hilton Armstrong (3.4, 2.6)</td>
<td>Paul Davis (2.6, 1.9),
Ryan Hollins (3.9, 2.2)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2007</td>
<td>Greg Oden (9.4, 7.3),
Spencer Hawes (8.8, 5.5)</td>
<td>Aaron Gray (3.8, 3.3)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2008</td>
<td>Brook Lopez (15.9, 8.4),
Roy Hibbert (9.5, 4.7),
JaVale McGee (6.5, 4.0)</td>
<td>Kosta Koufos (3.3, 2.2),
DeAndre Jordan (4.6, 4.8),
DeVon Hardin (DNP),
Sasha Kaun (DNP)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>2009</td>
<td>Hasheem Thabeet (3.1, 3.6)</td>
<td>B.J. Mullens (1.1, 0.8),
Goran Suton (DNP)</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
 
In hindsight Chris Grant prolly did the right thing last night, the best players were gone early.
 
The draft is not a priority for the Cavaliers....that much is clear. They feel they can do without it and they continue to do so. Having LeBron James has provided room for error, but take him out of the equate and what do you have?

Do you honestly expect this team to be rebuilt through free agency? Cleveland has never been a major destination for free agents and I don't see that changing all of the sudden. No, this team would have to be rebuilt through the draft.

It just so happens the best drafting GM in the NBA, Kevin Pritchard, came available yesterday. If I were Dan Gilbert, I would place a call to Kevin Pritchard and see what it would take to get him to Cleveland. He provides hope for building through the draft, especially if LeBron leaves,which I am thinking is increasingly likely, where Chris Grant does not.
 
Solomon Alabi, who the Cavs were interested in went to #50 and Gilbert couldnt fork up the money for him
 
Alabi has Hapatitis C and it red flagged him medically it appears.

I would take Pittman and Whiteside over Kaun by a wide margin.
 
Now I can see why alabi fell

Whiteside is a twig

I think the draft really ended after the first 5 picks but no one would say it.
 
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In hindsight Chris Grant prolly did the right thing last night, the best players were gone early.

Nah, he ruined the franchises hopes of a championship in the next few years by not taking a sexy late second rounder, according to some.
 
Alabi was really the only prospect I may have considered buying a late #2 for and the Raptors had to give up a future #2 in addition to cash to get him from Dallas. He's not a guarantee at all but there's enough raw ability and size there to take a shot on.

MYoung is right about the hepatitis being the reason he dropped. DraftExpress reported it was hepatitis B and not C though. I believe that is less severe and shouldn't cause major problems.

No one should really be upset that the Cavs didn't get a 2nd rounder. All their 1st round targets didn't drop either so that ruled out getting a #1 in a range where they could realistically get a pick.
 
Both hepatitis b and c can cause cirrhosis and also hepatocellular carcinoma. They are not good things to get.
 
Alabi has Hapatitis C and it red flagged him medically it appears.

I would take Pittman and Whiteside over Kaun by a wide margin.

Yeah, Pittman is going to be the guy on another team I watch pretty closely from this draft. I think he'd have been a good backup post defender at the minimum --which we need badly -- and perhaps quite a bit more if he got down to 270 or so. Dammit. Worst part was that I was following the draft here, and nobody mentioned that he got picked by Miami at 32, so I stayed up hoping we might make a deal....
 

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