2015 NBA Draft Thread

[BimboColesHair]

Man...all this talk about this draft as if anyone of the guys we got today was going to play a major role in our team the next few years.

I personally think we had a few guys in our sights for 24, but that run of the more well known named guys in the ~5 picks before ours put a damper on that.

Anyways, all this talk about revision of Cavs past drafts and how they suck at scouting and developing or what have you...you can literally go look at every team and see that they miss more than they hit in the draft, especially if they sit towards the end of the pecking order.

Let's take the gold standard during the 2000s, San Antonio, for example. For every Kawhi Leonard, there is a Marcus Williams, Bryan Bracey, Malik Hairston, James Anderson, Jack McClinton, Chris Carrawell. For every Splitter there is a Nando de Colo, James Gist, Robertas Javtokas, Ryan Richards, Viktor Sanikidze.

They make a genius draft day trade of Kawhi for George Hill. They make a not-so-genius draft day trade of John Salmons for Speedy Cla-Cla-Cla-Claxton (obviously not as impactful as the Kawhi trade, but still a major whiff based on how their careers played out). Point is, every team misses more than they hit in the draft, which is why drafts are so entertaining for fans. You never know (save for those once in a decade "can't miss" guys).

Also, winning cures all. This will all be forgotten 4 months from now when our team looks stacked after free agency and trades play out and we begin to run train on the rest of the league.

 

[David.]

and your panties are in a bunch over an old rating?

Do you really care that much? I can remove it if it will help you sleep better at night.

I'm tired of the debate around TT's drafting. If he were a scrub, go ahead and carry on with criticism of the pick. I might still rate it as old. But he's not. He's a highly useful player in the league that any team would love to have. Hence, old.

If you want to take a stand on the Cavs horrible drafting and player development you should start and finish with Anthony Bennett. That guy was a fucking bonafide scrub from the beginning. For that decision alone Chris Grant should be blackballed from NBA front offices.

Rating old bc it wasn't grants call

 

[Adam]

View: https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski/status/614283521591508997

This is interesting...Krawczynski later tweeted that Flip tried to trade for Houston's pick but Morey wanted his first born.

This has to mean Griff has his plan set up now. I wonder what the next deal will be...haywood + the rights to osman and kauhn for a vet and a future pick?

 

[cavsfan08]

Danny Green wasn't good until Pop cut him twice then kicked his ass some more. If he stayed in Cleveland he would be in the NBA right now. A lot of drafting comes down to luck but also having amazing coaches. I think Blatt would be great at developing younger guys which is why it kinda sucks we didn't keep Tyus.

Delly was undrafted and developed.

 

[Lee]

Delly was undrafted and developed.

Delly wasn't developed, he was forged from Australian Steel.

 

[Rich]

Any explanation out of Atlanta why the traded the 19th pick for Hardaway Jr.? That move just dumbfounds me.

 

[Danny Arison]

Any explanation out of Atlanta why the traded the 19th pick for Hardaway Jr.? That move just dumbfounds me.

Crazy ah? imagine if it happened to us ah?
damn.

 

[kovanovich]

Any explanation out of Atlanta why the traded the 19th pick for Hardaway Jr.? That move just dumbfounds me.

You can tell Danny Ferry no longer runs things there.

 

[MRMsix6]

Rating old bc it wasn't grants call

Grant, Gilbert, whomever. Grant still bears some responsibility. He needed to be able to convince the owner how terrible a pick is if he really believes it. I wasn't there so I'm not sure who made the final call, regardless of what our sources say. The pick was horrible.

 

[Benedict_Boozer]

Late to the party as I just watched the draft on tape delay. I was really really high on Tyus Jones so was hyper excited to see we managed to get him at #24...oh well.

 

[Cavatt]

On that note... I'm out.

holy fuck... Lol! You trippin' Cavatt. You still cool in my book, but damn... Lol..

Sorry, had to bring up consensus that Bennett was in and Tristan was out.

I guess I need to use that stupid chuckles thing.

 

[Snarly]

Any explanation out of Atlanta why the traded the 19th pick for Hardaway Jr.? That move just dumbfounds me.

Well... Atlanta needed. No because he is... Uhh. There was no other better pick? No I got nothing makes no sense.

 

[wuck]

Two Griffin videos. His main post-draft presser and a separate interview with McLeod:

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/post-draft-media-availability-david-griffin-6/26

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/features/draft-recap-150625 (bottom of page)

 

[I'mWithDan]

Any explanation out of Atlanta why the traded the 19th pick for Hardaway Jr.? That move just dumbfounds me.

While I think the value wasn't great, they needed a backup SG. Korver is really the only guy they have at that spot and he's coming off an injury.

Snagging Hardaway, a guy who has at least proven he can play in the NBA, for a pick they obviously didn't want, isn't the worst move. They found a cheap backup on a rookie contract who still could improve. For a team looking to retain some key free agents, they could have done worse.

 

[Zman80000]

Not tongue and cheek at all. I've been saying this for a long time. Wrote a long post about it last week.

We have demonstrated no ability to utilize the draft.

Guys in this thread are saying the same shit they said when we picked Thompson, Waiters, and Bennett. I understand optimism, but blind faith is ridiculous. If we're just going to rationalize whatever the front office does, we might as well not post anything.

Are the front office people that picked those players still here? Only Gilbert as the Owner is.

This is Griffins 1st draft as the GM, can we just see how it plays out then conclude something instead of knee jerk concluding he sucks at drafting too on the night of the draft?