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2017 Browns Mock Draft Thread
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I can see why Josh Allen might debate declaring. This QB class is pretty weak and lacks a guy with superstar upside (which he is). The QB crop on paper for the next year or two looks crazy. He's also losing his RB and top 3 targets. As far as timing goes, it makes a ton of sense for him to declare now aside from the fact that he's absolutely not ready.
If he goes to a team that isn't willing to redshirt him next year, it could be a disaster. Not saying I wouldn't want him on our team as a project (because I would) but talking about him as a potential Top 5 pick is super premature. Dude is as raw as he is talented.
If he goes to a team that isn't willing to redshirt him next year, it could be a disaster. Not saying I wouldn't want him on our team as a project (because I would) but talking about him as a potential Top 5 pick is super premature. Dude is as raw as he is talented.
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Okay. You know I usually try and look around for mocks for fun/debate/ppl who don't look them up. So here are ones that haven't been posted yet in here that are from this week:
SB NATION:
1. Cleveland Browns: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
Garrett announced his intention to enter the draft on Saturday night after a stellar three-year college career that included 32.5 sacks and 48.5 tackles for loss. He’s the clear cut best player in the draft. Just don’t let his comments about preferring not going to a team that plays in cold weather change the pick, In announcing his decision, Garrett said “I will play for any NFL team that gives me a chance,” and Cleveland should be that team.
12. Cleveland Browns (via Philadelphia Eagles): Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan (oh shit, @AZ_ gonna flip
)
The Browns have so many holes, you could argue about five different players here. The team cycled through several safeties this season, and failed to find one who could consistently make plays. Peppers could be a player the Browns use all over the field.
33. Cleveland Browns: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington
52. Cleveland Browns (via Tennessee Titans): Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford
WASHINGTON POST:
1. Cleveland Browns (1-15) — Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
The cold, hard truth is that the Browns still don’t have a quarterback. Unfortunately, there is no Andrew Luck or Jameis Winston in this draft, so the Browns should select the draft’s most transcendent talent.
Garrett is an immediate game-changer for a defense that’s 31st in the league in scoring allowed and total defense. The quarterback question can’t be avoided but, again, there’s no slam dunk answer to the problem at No. 1. Pick No. 12? Perhaps. They could even look at the top of the second round (potentially Patrick Mahomes from Texas Tech?), where the Raiders (Derek Carr) and Bengals (Andy Dalton) found their quarterbacks in recent years.
12. Cleveland Browns (via Philadelphia Eagles 7-9) — Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson
With the second of two top 12 picks, the Browns take a polarizing quarterback in the scouting community. Some love him. Some don’t feel the love at all. But, if the Browns end Thursday night with Garrett and Watson, it’s a win for Cleveland, even if it’ll take a few years for all the pieces to eventually come together.
SPORTS ILLUSTRATED:
1. MYLES GARRETT - DE, TEXAS A&M
The Browns should be one of those teams keeping an eye on the developing free-agent QB market. Tyrod Taylor in Hue Jackson’s system may not be Super Bowl-worthy, but it’d be interesting. Regardless, they should stick with Garrett here. He is the best, most dominant player available, and the Browns’ positioning at spots 12 and 36 give them ample ammunition to draft a quarterback.
12. QUINCY WILSON - CB, FLORIDA
(Pick via Philadelphia) Two Cleveland picks, two defenders. Maybe that’s not where the safe money lies in predicting the Browns’ plans, but how badly could the league’s 31st-ranked defense use a potential perennial All-Pro in Garrett and a true lockdown corner type, like Wilson? The Florida DB is big, strong and won’t shy away from the league’s best receivers.
MMQB:
No. 1 Cleveland Browns: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
The Browns need a quarterback. But the Browns need a lot of things. They also have plenty of picks, and thus opportunities to fill deficiencies in later rounds. Should the Browns keep their top pick this season (and I think they will) it seems smart to go with a sure thing. What Cleveland really needs is a star. How good is Garrett? If he was eligible for the 2016 draft, he might have gone No. 1.
No. 12 Cleveland Browns (from Philadelphia): DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame
We know the Browns passed on Carson Wentz last season. Whether that was the right decision remains to be seen. We know the Browns still need the guy—and a lot of guys. After prudently passing on a quarterback with the top pick, I see the Sashi Brown brain trust falling in love with Notre Dame’s Kizer, an Ohio native who has poise in the pocket but can threaten in other ways, too. When I wrote about Kizer in September, one quote from Brady Quinn stuck with me: “You see a lot of natural athletes who play quarterback because they can throw the football and they’re fast and athletic and they can get a coach out of a bad call because they can scramble. DeShone can get out of the pocket and run, but he’s a natural passer. He can pass with different anticipations, different speeds.”
WALTER:
1. Cleveland Browns: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
As it stands now, the four candidates or the No. 1 pick in the 2017 NFL Draft are Myles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, DeShone Kizer and Mitch Trubisky. The Browns obviously need a quarterback, and I believe Trubisky is what Hue Jackson is looking for. Trubisky has his flaws, but he's very accurate and has a quick release. Jackson may envision Trubisky as his new Andy Dalton.
However, Adam Schefter has reported that the Browns have an "astronomical grade" on Garrett, which is interesting. Cleveland needs a pass-rusher as well, and Garrett would be an enormous upgrade.
The question is, would the Browns take Garrett over Trubisky when they're desperate for a franchise quarterback? Well, there is precedent for this, as the Texans picked Jadeveon Clowney when they really needed a signal-caller in the 2014 NFL Draft. Houston simply had Clowney way above all the quarterbacks, and that could be the case with Cleveland and Garrett.
12. Cleveland Browns: Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State
The Browns have some of the worst secondary play in the NFL. In fact, it's probably the absolute worst. There are problems both at cornerback and safety. Regarding the former, one of my readers called Joe Haden the "oldest 27-year-old on the planet" because of all the injuries he's incurred over the years. Haden is no longer reliable, so Cleveland will have to think about finding a new No. 1 cornerback.
33. Cleveland Browns: Marcus Maye, S, Florida
The Browns fixed some of their issues on defense in the first round by selecting an edge rusher and a cornerback. Here's something else for the secondary, as the Browns have some of the worst safeties in the NFL, so they need to make some upgrades.
52. Cleveland Browns: Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State
Terrelle Pryor didn't get the 1,800 yards Charles Woodson predicted, but he did cross the 1,000-yard barrier. Pryor made himself a ton of money this offseason, so if the Browns don't re-sign him, they'll have to search for a new receiver. Perhaps they'll take Chris Godwin, who dominated USC in the Rose Bowl.
65. Cleveland Browns: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia
I have to imagine that the Browns are growing tired of Cameron Erving's ineptitude at center. Here's someone to challenge him.
97. Cleveland Browns: Chidobe Awuzie, CB/S, Colorado
The Browns need to do even more to upgrade their horrific secondary. Multiple upgrades at both positions will be quite welcome.
SB NATION:
1. Cleveland Browns: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
Garrett announced his intention to enter the draft on Saturday night after a stellar three-year college career that included 32.5 sacks and 48.5 tackles for loss. He’s the clear cut best player in the draft. Just don’t let his comments about preferring not going to a team that plays in cold weather change the pick, In announcing his decision, Garrett said “I will play for any NFL team that gives me a chance,” and Cleveland should be that team.
12. Cleveland Browns (via Philadelphia Eagles): Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan (oh shit, @AZ_ gonna flip
)The Browns have so many holes, you could argue about five different players here. The team cycled through several safeties this season, and failed to find one who could consistently make plays. Peppers could be a player the Browns use all over the field.
33. Cleveland Browns: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington
52. Cleveland Browns (via Tennessee Titans): Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford
WASHINGTON POST:
1. Cleveland Browns (1-15) — Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
The cold, hard truth is that the Browns still don’t have a quarterback. Unfortunately, there is no Andrew Luck or Jameis Winston in this draft, so the Browns should select the draft’s most transcendent talent.
Garrett is an immediate game-changer for a defense that’s 31st in the league in scoring allowed and total defense. The quarterback question can’t be avoided but, again, there’s no slam dunk answer to the problem at No. 1. Pick No. 12? Perhaps. They could even look at the top of the second round (potentially Patrick Mahomes from Texas Tech?), where the Raiders (Derek Carr) and Bengals (Andy Dalton) found their quarterbacks in recent years.
12. Cleveland Browns (via Philadelphia Eagles 7-9) — Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson
With the second of two top 12 picks, the Browns take a polarizing quarterback in the scouting community. Some love him. Some don’t feel the love at all. But, if the Browns end Thursday night with Garrett and Watson, it’s a win for Cleveland, even if it’ll take a few years for all the pieces to eventually come together.
SPORTS ILLUSTRATED:
1. MYLES GARRETT - DE, TEXAS A&M
The Browns should be one of those teams keeping an eye on the developing free-agent QB market. Tyrod Taylor in Hue Jackson’s system may not be Super Bowl-worthy, but it’d be interesting. Regardless, they should stick with Garrett here. He is the best, most dominant player available, and the Browns’ positioning at spots 12 and 36 give them ample ammunition to draft a quarterback.
12. QUINCY WILSON - CB, FLORIDA
(Pick via Philadelphia) Two Cleveland picks, two defenders. Maybe that’s not where the safe money lies in predicting the Browns’ plans, but how badly could the league’s 31st-ranked defense use a potential perennial All-Pro in Garrett and a true lockdown corner type, like Wilson? The Florida DB is big, strong and won’t shy away from the league’s best receivers.
MMQB:
No. 1 Cleveland Browns: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
The Browns need a quarterback. But the Browns need a lot of things. They also have plenty of picks, and thus opportunities to fill deficiencies in later rounds. Should the Browns keep their top pick this season (and I think they will) it seems smart to go with a sure thing. What Cleveland really needs is a star. How good is Garrett? If he was eligible for the 2016 draft, he might have gone No. 1.
No. 12 Cleveland Browns (from Philadelphia): DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame
We know the Browns passed on Carson Wentz last season. Whether that was the right decision remains to be seen. We know the Browns still need the guy—and a lot of guys. After prudently passing on a quarterback with the top pick, I see the Sashi Brown brain trust falling in love with Notre Dame’s Kizer, an Ohio native who has poise in the pocket but can threaten in other ways, too. When I wrote about Kizer in September, one quote from Brady Quinn stuck with me: “You see a lot of natural athletes who play quarterback because they can throw the football and they’re fast and athletic and they can get a coach out of a bad call because they can scramble. DeShone can get out of the pocket and run, but he’s a natural passer. He can pass with different anticipations, different speeds.”
WALTER:
As it stands now, the four candidates or the No. 1 pick in the 2017 NFL Draft are Myles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, DeShone Kizer and Mitch Trubisky. The Browns obviously need a quarterback, and I believe Trubisky is what Hue Jackson is looking for. Trubisky has his flaws, but he's very accurate and has a quick release. Jackson may envision Trubisky as his new Andy Dalton.
However, Adam Schefter has reported that the Browns have an "astronomical grade" on Garrett, which is interesting. Cleveland needs a pass-rusher as well, and Garrett would be an enormous upgrade.
The question is, would the Browns take Garrett over Trubisky when they're desperate for a franchise quarterback? Well, there is precedent for this, as the Texans picked Jadeveon Clowney when they really needed a signal-caller in the 2014 NFL Draft. Houston simply had Clowney way above all the quarterbacks, and that could be the case with Cleveland and Garrett.
The Browns have some of the worst secondary play in the NFL. In fact, it's probably the absolute worst. There are problems both at cornerback and safety. Regarding the former, one of my readers called Joe Haden the "oldest 27-year-old on the planet" because of all the injuries he's incurred over the years. Haden is no longer reliable, so Cleveland will have to think about finding a new No. 1 cornerback.
The Browns fixed some of their issues on defense in the first round by selecting an edge rusher and a cornerback. Here's something else for the secondary, as the Browns have some of the worst safeties in the NFL, so they need to make some upgrades.
Terrelle Pryor didn't get the 1,800 yards Charles Woodson predicted, but he did cross the 1,000-yard barrier. Pryor made himself a ton of money this offseason, so if the Browns don't re-sign him, they'll have to search for a new receiver. Perhaps they'll take Chris Godwin, who dominated USC in the Rose Bowl.
I have to imagine that the Browns are growing tired of Cameron Erving's ineptitude at center. Here's someone to challenge him.
The Browns need to do even more to upgrade their horrific secondary. Multiple upgrades at both positions will be quite welcome.
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I understand the prevailing thought behind concerns over Haden, but he's almost certainly going to be on the roster next season.
Briean Boddy-Calhoun looked like a guy who could be a starting caliber player in this league.
I'd put the concerns of safety ahead of those at corner, even if Tramon Williams proves himself to be a capable FS going forward.
Briean Boddy-Calhoun looked like a guy who could be a starting caliber player in this league.
I'd put the concerns of safety ahead of those at corner, even if Tramon Williams proves himself to be a capable FS going forward.
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No way would I take Peppers at 12. Being above average at multiple positions in college doesn't mean you will be elite at any of them in the NFL. Undersized for a LB, not fast enough for the secondary...i think Peppers has bust written all over him.
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The part about Joe Haden being the oldest 27-year-old on the planet is so true it hurts.
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I don't know if he's starting caliber. My opinion is probably not though certainly a depth piece, but I see where you're coming from about people paying attention. Posters who were openly admitting not watching this season now want to chime in about player evaluation and roster needs...
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Runs a close second to people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about chiming in.
Just my opinion.
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Didnt realize he is only 27, he really has aged in Dog years. Sucks too, he was very good, and is a great guy too.