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2017 Browns Mock Draft Thread

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If we're taking a safety I'd hope it's a dynamic player who can make plays. A dude like Hooker comes to mind.
 
We can't get too young in the secondary. As much as I would like to load up on these talented DB's when need to remember it takes longer to develop DB's than any position other than maybe QB and NT. They're going to have to decide which position DB position they will address in FA.

Haden
Adams/Hooker
FA
Boddy

If Adams or Hooker are there at 12 that's who I'm rolling with. I would prefer Hooker since he's more of a ball hawk at FS. The we can sign my favorite FA in Tony Jefferson. I am completely fine with Boddy starting opposite Haden next year. I expect Haden to have a bounce back year. Also don't forget about Jamar Taylor

Haden
Hooker
Jefferson
Boddy
Taylor
Kindred

and let Campbell excel at ST. I would be fine with this.
 
I don't think it's accurate to say it takes longer to develop cornerbacks and safeties than any other position. QB and OLine are without question taking longer to develop because of the huge change in pro style offense from college spread offense.

DBs typically have shorter careers than other positions as well. What do you call an All Pro cornerback turning 30?

A free safety.
 
Okay. You know I usually try and look around for mocks for fun/debate/ppl who don't look them up. So here are ones that haven't been posted yet in here that are from this week:

SB NATION:

1. Cleveland Browns: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
Garrett announced his intention to enter the draft on Saturday night after a stellar three-year college career that included 32.5 sacks and 48.5 tackles for loss. He’s the clear cut best player in the draft. Just don’t let his comments about preferring not going to a team that plays in cold weather change the pick, In announcing his decision, Garrett said “I will play for any NFL team that gives me a chance,” and Cleveland should be that team.

12. Cleveland Browns (via Philadelphia Eagles): Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan (oh shit, @AZ_ gonna flip :chuckle: )
The Browns have so many holes, you could argue about five different players here. The team cycled through several safeties this season, and failed to find one who could consistently make plays. Peppers could be a player the Browns use all over the field.

33. Cleveland Browns: Sidney Jones, CB, Washington

52. Cleveland Browns (via Tennessee Titans): Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford

WASHINGTON POST:


1. Cleveland Browns (1-15) — Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M

The cold, hard truth is that the Browns still don’t have a quarterback. Unfortunately, there is no Andrew Luck or Jameis Winston in this draft, so the Browns should select the draft’s most transcendent talent.

Garrett is an immediate game-changer for a defense that’s 31st in the league in scoring allowed and total defense. The quarterback question can’t be avoided but, again, there’s no slam dunk answer to the problem at No. 1. Pick No. 12? Perhaps. They could even look at the top of the second round (potentially Patrick Mahomes from Texas Tech?), where the Raiders (Derek Carr) and Bengals (Andy Dalton) found their quarterbacks in recent years.

12. Cleveland Browns (via Philadelphia Eagles 7-9) — Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson

With the second of two top 12 picks, the Browns take a polarizing quarterback in the scouting community. Some love him. Some don’t feel the love at all. But, if the Browns end Thursday night with Garrett and Watson, it’s a win for Cleveland, even if it’ll take a few years for all the pieces to eventually come together.


SPORTS ILLUSTRATED:


1. MYLES GARRETT - DE, TEXAS A&M
The Browns should be one of those teams keeping an eye on the developing free-agent QB market. Tyrod Taylor in Hue Jackson’s system may not be Super Bowl-worthy, but it’d be interesting. Regardless, they should stick with Garrett here. He is the best, most dominant player available, and the Browns’ positioning at spots 12 and 36 give them ample ammunition to draft a quarterback.


12. QUINCY WILSON - CB, FLORIDA
(Pick via Philadelphia) Two Cleveland picks, two defenders. Maybe that’s not where the safe money lies in predicting the Browns’ plans, but how badly could the league’s 31st-ranked defense use a potential perennial All-Pro in Garrett and a true lockdown corner type, like Wilson? The Florida DB is big, strong and won’t shy away from the league’s best receivers.

MMQB:

No. 1 Cleveland Browns: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
The Browns need a quarterback. But the Browns need a lot of things. They also have plenty of picks, and thus opportunities to fill deficiencies in later rounds. Should the Browns keep their top pick this season (and I think they will) it seems smart to go with a sure thing. What Cleveland really needs is a star. How good is Garrett? If he was eligible for the 2016 draft, he might have gone No. 1.

No. 12 Cleveland Browns (from Philadelphia): DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame
We know the Browns passed on Carson Wentz last season. Whether that was the right decision remains to be seen. We know the Browns still need the guy—and a lot of guys. After prudently passing on a quarterback with the top pick, I see the Sashi Brown brain trust falling in love with Notre Dame’s Kizer, an Ohio native who has poise in the pocket but can threaten in other ways, too. When I wrote about Kizer in September, one quote from Brady Quinn stuck with me: “You see a lot of natural athletes who play quarterback because they can throw the football and they’re fast and athletic and they can get a coach out of a bad call because they can scramble. DeShone can get out of the pocket and run, but he’s a natural passer. He can pass with different anticipations, different speeds.”

WALTER:

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1. Cleveland Browns: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
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As it stands now, the four candidates or the No. 1 pick in the 2017 NFL Draft are Myles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, DeShone Kizer and Mitch Trubisky. The Browns obviously need a quarterback, and I believe Trubisky is what Hue Jackson is looking for. Trubisky has his flaws, but he's very accurate and has a quick release. Jackson may envision Trubisky as his new Andy Dalton.

However, Adam Schefter has reported that the Browns have an "astronomical grade" on Garrett, which is interesting. Cleveland needs a pass-rusher as well, and Garrett would be an enormous upgrade.

The question is, would the Browns take Garrett over Trubisky when they're desperate for a franchise quarterback? Well, there is precedent for this, as the Texans picked Jadeveon Clowney when they really needed a signal-caller in the 2014 NFL Draft. Houston simply had Clowney way above all the quarterbacks, and that could be the case with Cleveland and Garrett.

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12. Cleveland Browns: Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State
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The Browns have some of the worst secondary play in the NFL. In fact, it's probably the absolute worst. There are problems both at cornerback and safety. Regarding the former, one of my readers called Joe Haden the "oldest 27-year-old on the planet" because of all the injuries he's incurred over the years. Haden is no longer reliable, so Cleveland will have to think about finding a new No. 1 cornerback.

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33. Cleveland Browns: Marcus Maye, S, Florida
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The Browns fixed some of their issues on defense in the first round by selecting an edge rusher and a cornerback. Here's something else for the secondary, as the Browns have some of the worst safeties in the NFL, so they need to make some upgrades.

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52. Cleveland Browns: Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State
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Terrelle Pryor didn't get the 1,800 yards Charles Woodson predicted, but he did cross the 1,000-yard barrier. Pryor made himself a ton of money this offseason, so if the Browns don't re-sign him, they'll have to search for a new receiver. Perhaps they'll take Chris Godwin, who dominated USC in the Rose Bowl.

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65. Cleveland Browns: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia
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I have to imagine that the Browns are growing tired of Cameron Erving's ineptitude at center. Here's someone to challenge him.

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97. Cleveland Browns: Chidobe Awuzie, CB/S, Colorado
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The Browns need to do even more to upgrade their horrific secondary. Multiple upgrades at both positions will be quite welcome.
Literally every single one of those #12 picks pissed me off

Just trade up and get Hooker instead of taking those nonsense picks at 12
 
The part about Joe Haden being the oldest 27-year-old on the planet is so true it hurts.

With all due respect to Average Joe, I trash the guy's play with the best of them, but I wonder how he'd look in a very good secondary and a respectable front 7 rushing the QB.

It's hard to cover anybody when the front 7 hardly gets to the QB, me and you can get open eventually.

I seriously hope this is a draft where we stack on defense. Garrett #1, safety, cornerback, MLB. Sign offensive lineman through FA.


I'm still all in on Garrett and Hooker turning this defense around.
 
I have Hooker and Adams above Peppers, personally... but there seems to be some heavy groupthink going on with Peppers. I understand the media tends to overrate him because he returns kicks and sneaks into offensive packages. I'd like to see him wrap up when he tackles more consistently.

He still has the makings of a hard hitting, intelligent defensive back who runs in the 4.3 to 4.4 range and has proven cover skills. If the Browns choose him with the Philly pick, I'm going to be intrigued by the versatility on defense. The safety position is a disaster for the Browns, so let's not ignore Peppers just because of the color of his college uniform. The draft process for many of these guys has barely begun... In fact, Peppers supposedly hasn't made up his mind yet.
 
Peppers might not be in this draft, to be honest.

There are rumblings. Personally, I'll believe it when I see it.
 
I dont think anyone is gonna overlook him because he played at Michigan.

If there's a stud at Michigan that can help the Browns I'd want him selected in a heartbeat. Once you put on the Browns and Orange you're one of the good guys.
 
So, apparently Jim Donavan has said the Browns love Allen? Interesting.
 
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Peppers might not be in this draft, to be honest.

There are rumblings. Personally, I'll believe it when I see it.

I personally think he's covering his tracks after bailing on program in bowl game....

He destroyed their redzone offense and coaches are pissed.....now he's in a catch 22. He leaves, and GMs are going to get all the nasty shit. Or stay and repair the damage.....whoever contrived that plan really fucked up. If he didn't want to play just pull a Fournette/McCaffery.
 
He destroyed their redzone offense
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Peppers was irrelevant on offense all season. He destroyed their redzone offense when he was actually on the field. Their Peppers' packages were god awful.
 

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