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2017 Browns Mock Draft Thread

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But that is the point. Why take a "risk" QB at #12 when we still need to fill holes? Of course, we don't know who the hell is gonna be there at #12. I don't think Thomas will be there for us. If any one of Lattimore, Wilson, Howard, shit even Fournette/McCaffrey, I would take over Mahomes at that point. We can allllways trade up with the bevy of picks we have.

Just hard for me to reach on a QB at #12, when Kessler wasn't a total shit show (behind our OL, injuries + Erving) and the class next year could end up being fantastic. (Or we still have the option of Jimmy, possibly.)

Take a QB later or trade up, but we don't need any reaches with at least our first 2 picks in this deep draft.

I reject that. Mahomes has every bit the arm talent, maybe more, than Darnold, Allen, Rosen. None of them come from a spread either, but that means little to me.

I understand that there is going to be terrific talent there. Not Thomas, Allen, or Hooker. I can find faults for everyone that could be there. The draft is a risk.

I think Mahomes is a worthwhile risk at 12.
 
Let's put it this way.

If the choice is Mahomes or one of the top 7-8 prospects, then you pick the BPA. Fill a need, get an elite talent and that's that.

If the board shakes out and the Browns top 10 guys are gone and you're faced with a choice of Mahomes or someone like Rube Foster or Taco Charlton or Derek Barnett, those guys are fine prospects, but I would go with the QB at that point.
 
Let's put it this way.

If the choice is Mahomes or one of the top 7-8 prospects, then you pick the BPA. Fill a need, get an elite talent and that's that.

If the board shakes out and the Browns top 10 guys are gone and you're faced with a choice of Mahomes or someone like Rube Foster or Taco Charlton or Derek Barnett, those guys are fine prospects, but I would go with the QB at that point.

I would have Mahomes in my top ten talents, so I guess I agree.

Not entirely sure Mahomes will be at 12 at this point.
 
Players I would pick ahead of Mahomes at 12 (no order): Myles Garrett (obviously) Jon Allen, Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker, Leonard Fournette, Mike Williams, OJ Howard, Mitch Trubisky, Solomon Thomas, Marshon Lattimore.

That's 10. We're picking 12. If all those players are gone I'd pick Mahomes next.
 
Players I would pick ahead of Mahomes at 12 (no order): Myles Garrett (obviously) Jon Allen, Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker, Leonard Fournette, Mike Williams, OJ Howard, Mitch Trubisky, Solomon Thomas, Marshon Lattimore.

That's 10. We're picking 12. If all those players are gone I'd pick Mahomes next.

I would add Malik McDowell to that list and Fournette if we get a 2nd for Crow before the draft.
 
Why not just trade doen by 10 slots and takr mahomes there? Or wait till 33? Maybe i missed it but thought he had a 3rd-4th round draft rating.

Still not sure why so many people love him.
 
Why not just trade doen by 10 slots and takr mahomes there? Or wait till 33? Maybe i missed it but thought he had a 3rd-4th round draft rating.

Still not sure why so many people love him.

Got a second round grade from the draft advisory committee who is notoriously pessimistic and stingy about their grades.
 
Jamal Adams
Solomon Thomas
Cam Robinson
Mike Williams

I really dont want to go WR at 12 again after last year but Mike Williams is such an elite talent, it would be hard to pass on him if he is there unless Adams is there too.
 
I would add Malik McDowell to that list and Fournette if we get a 2nd for Crow before the draft.

No way. McDowell set fire to his stock this offseason.
 
I don't like Robinson or Williams that much to be honest. Give me Corey Davis/OJ Howard and skip OL in this draft for obvious reasons now.
 
Why not just trade doen by 10 slots and takr mahomes there? Or wait till 33? Maybe i missed it but thought he had a 3rd-4th round draft rating.

Still not sure why so many people love him.

They love him because he has elite arm talent, like Aaron Rogers level arm talent.

He is a 2nd round grade, not 3rd or 4th.

Why 2nd with such arm talent? Because he comes from the spread it he might not be able to read a pro defense....ever, or may he puts it together, who knows.

Why take him at 12th? Because QB's in a weak QB class will get over drafted and he might not be there at 33.

What do I think? Over drafting is over drafting and too much talent will be there at 33.

I would hope he is there at 33 if we value him that much, but he will have a hard path in the NFL learning how to get under center, read a complex defense, run a complex offence, etc, but physically he has everything you can dream of in a QB.
 
No way. McDowell set fire to his stock this offseason.

He is a perfect fit scheme wise for us. I don't care about a guy who didn't like not getting paid to play. Let him live.
 
Seeing a lot of OJ Howard at 12. Would love the pickup. Atleast 4 mocks as of a few days ago had him to us.
 
TODAY'S PFF MOCK DRAFT (WITH A TRADE):

1. Cleveland Browns
Myles Garrett, Edge, Texas A&M

Garrett has proved everything he’s needed to during the draft process, as he dominated the NFL Combine after three productive years at Texas A&M. His 31 sacks, 35 QB hits and 98 hurries on 978 rushes show that he knows how to get to the quarterback, and his improved run grade of 87.8 ranked third in the nation last season. Garrett is the best player in the draft and a perfect fit for a pass-rush-needy Browns defense.

12. Cleveland Browns (from Philadelphia Eagles)
Jamal Adams, S, LSU

The Browns’ defense is starting to take shape as they add another playmaker in Adams, who led the nation’s safeties with an 89.4 overall grade last season. He can play the run when lined up in the box, and can play multiple coverages, whether working short zones, covering tight ends, or playing on the back end. Adams continued to improve each year at LSU and he adds a defensive chess piece to the Cleveland defense.

Position fit: Interchangeable safety capable of playing both near the line of scrimmage and deep in coverage. Can also play in the slot or cover tight ends.

Stats to know: 33 tackles resulting in a defensive stop were tied for seventh among safeties in college in 2016

What he does best:

  • As well-rounded a prospect as there is in this draft class, with the fifth-best coverage grade, and fourth-best run-defense grade among safeties in 2016.
  • Played well in three seasons at LSU, but saw a big boost to grades and stats in 2016, seeing his total number of defensive stops rise from 23 in 2015 to 33 in 2016.
  • Versatile enough to cover in the slot, with 251 of his 802 snaps last year coming from the slot.
  • Looks like a cornerback when playing “off” coverage. Has some analysts intrigued that he’s capable of converting to a cornerback full-time if needed.
  • Improved as a tackler in his junior year. Missed a tackle once every 6.4 attempts in 2015, but just once every 11.1 attempted in 2016. Plays with great balance in the open field, though he’ll have his fair share of whiffs.
  • Very athletic, able to get to the ball quickly, break down, and finish the play.
  • Strong read-and-react skills in the passing game allowed him to cause problems for offenses at or around the line of scrimmage. Recorded 14 tackles resulting in a defensive stop in coverage.
  • Good ball skills when tested. Recorded five interceptions and nine pass breakups in coverage in 2016
  • Throws his body around on the goal line, will leap over blockers to try to get in on the play
Biggest concern:

  • Lacks the range of fellow safety prospect Malik Hooker. Not a great fit as a true single high safety.
  • Still could be more consistent as a tackler. Saw huge improvement in 2016, but still ranked just 32nd among safeties in terms of tackling efficiency.
  • Got caught out of position or over pursuing against the run several times late in the year. Not a consistent problem, but worth noting.
Player comparison: Eric Weddle, Baltimore Ravens

Weddle has shown over his career that you don’t need to have the rare range on an Earl Thomas or Ed Reed to make a huge impact at safety. An equally well-rounded prospect, there’s no reason Adams can’t have a career as long as impressive as Weddle while making an impact near the line of scrimmage, in the slot, or on the back end in coverage.

Bottom line:

The biggest knock on Adams is that he doesn’t have freaky range. That shouldn’t stop him being a top safety at the next level, and when you look at his body of work in college, there’s every reason to believe he is going to develop into a very special player.


TRADE WAS:

49ers receive: Jets’ first-round pick (No. 6), Jets’ second-round pick (No. 39)
Jets receive: 49ers’ first-round pick (No. 2), 49ers’ fourth-round (No. 143)


Jets took Trubisky at #2


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