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2017 College Football Season/Playoff Thread

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Wulfgar1224 said:
I hate to say it. But, I am now convinced that Alabama is the best team. I think what they did to Clemson was very impressive. They obliterated them. I'm sure they'll handle Georgia as well. We can debate whether they deserved to get in since their schedule and conference wasn't very strong this season. But, I'd be hard pressed to pick OSU to beat them on a neutral field.
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In a playoff format with 4, 8, 12, 16 teams? 'Bama likely comes out of top barring some sort of slip up.

In a BCS format? It's Clemson V. Oklahoma with the Sooners winning their first national title since 2000 in an absolute shoot out.

In the traditional format? Well, I think we're perhaps discussing a split national title with Central Florida and either Clemson or Oklahoma.

I think what kinda terrifies me is that we're getting to a point with CFB that via the BCS/CFP's design? They are kinda effectively deeming vast swathes of the country irrelevant in the national title discussion. We can mock programs like Pitt, Notre Dame, Boise St., but to me...their fanbase really helps present the game as a national one, not a regional one.
 
Triple-S said:
In a playoff format with 4, 8, 12, 16 teams? 'Bama likely comes out of top barring some sort of slip up.

In a BCS format? It's Clemson V. Oklahoma with the Sooners winning their first national title since 2000 in an absolute shoot out.

In the traditional format? Well, I think we're perhaps discussing a split national title with Central Florida and either Clemson or Oklahoma.

I think what kinda terrifies me is that we're getting to a point with CFB that via the BCS/CFP's design? They are kinda effectively deeming vast swathes of the country irrelevant in the national title discussion. We can mock programs like Pitt, Notre Dame, Boise St., but to me...their fanbase really helps present the game as a national one, not a regional one.
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Interesting post.

I kinda forget how the BCS formula worked since it has been a while. But, if I recall, they changed the formula over the years. In fact, they were constantly tweaking it. I know the coaches poll and AP rankings played a large role in it as did schedule strength which was determined by the computers. So, yeah, it probably would've been Clemson vs Oklahoma. I even think you are right that Oklahoma would've probably beat them. Clemson isn't as dynamic this season without Deshaun Watson.

As for the traditional way, I don't think UCF would've gotten much traction as a split champ since they were ranked 10 in both the coaches and ap poll before the bowls started. I don't see them making up that kind of ground. Clemson likely would've been the national champ.

As for the final point, you made a good argument that a lot of the country seems to be excluded with this new system. The Pac 12 would definitely feel neglected. I do think this year was an outlier for the BIG. But, the conference has gotten really strong of late and it is tough for their champ to have less than 2 losses especially with a conference championship game. At least that is the case in the BIG East. It will be interesting to see how that plays out in the future.
 
Wulfgar1224 said:
As for the traditional way, I don't think UCF would've gotten much traction as a split champ since they were ranked 10 in both the coaches and ap poll before the bowls started. I don't see them making up that kind of ground. Clemson likely would've been the national champ.

As for the final point, you made a good argument that a lot of the country seems to be excluded with this new system. The Pac 12 would definitely feel neglected. I do think this year was an outlier for the BIG. But, the conference has gotten really strong of late and it is tough for their champ to have less than 2 losses especially with a conference championship game. At least that is the case in the BIG East. It will be interesting to see how that plays out in the future.
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To this day I swear I noticed a shift occur in the aftermath of what we saw in 06 title game. lopsided games like that had occured before (OU got beat by USC in the Orange Bowl in 04, Florida State beat up on Virginia Tech in 99, and Florida got beat by NEBRASKA 62-24). But I had never witnessed a complete 180 like ESPN had in discussing.

I really think it was ESPN in their quest to salvage what they had left in terms of rights that pushed that narrative. because I think with the creation of the Big Ten Network, with Fox trying to get in on things? They were seeing the writing on the wall.

I do think the Big Ten, Midwest has some great football. It really always has. to me. To deny that? well you either to be some idiot on ESPN or some guy that calls into Finebaum on a daily basis.
 
Saw some players bitch about holiday time with family if we move to more teams.m/injuries.

Well I’m completely fine with taking out a meaningless bullshit game early in the year if that means we can up it to 6 teams.
 
billmac91 said:
There’s such a simple solution, which I actually think will be implemented sooner than later.

There is zero need for conference divisions. You remove all conference divisions. Each conference plays 9 league games, and schedules 3 OOC games.

Conference schedule just gets put on yearly rotation, with one “rival” game that is scheduled every year (OSU-Michigan for example).

At end of season, based on computer rankings (or potentially some type of committee) #1 plays #2 in each conference championsip.

Only conference championship winners are eligible for playoff. You’d have 5 Power 5 winners, all the G5 winners, then Notre Dame and remaining independents.

The best 4 teams are picked. It makes the conference championship basically a playoff game, the best two teams in each conference actually play each other (ridiculous Georgia/Bama weren’t in SEC championship for example) and it eliminates multiple teams from one conference.

Conference divisions should be eliminated ASAP. They’re bullshit and unfair. SEC East has been brutal. Big 10 west has sucked. In the ACC you have FSU and Clemson regularly dominating conference.

The divisions just seem silly. Two best teams deserve to be in conference championship. Not some team that got lucky to be in championship bc they’re on the shitty side of the league.
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I think I agree with this, the divisions are odd to me and create an easy imbalance. Regardless, we probably still need an 8 team playoff. Conference champs and 3 at-large... Though part of me feels like a G5 representative should get a slot because right now they are basically a lower division in the same system.
 
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Man, there really wasn't an elite team this year. Nobody was great on both sides of the ball.
 
Hurts pulled at half. Saban getting desperate.
 
2 horrible calls that cost Georgia. This is bullshit.
 
Bama wins easily. That QB scramble/escape turned the game around.
 
Wow. What a huge answer. Didn't see that coming. Alabama moved effortlessly last drive, let's see if Georgia's D can put them to sleep.
 
Freshman mistake.

Yanking Hurts like that can't look good to recruits. Old man Saban losing his touch.
 
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