2018 Buckeyes Football

[Cavsfan1985]

Word is there are pictures and video of the affair on school grounds with the former lady who was there working. She has been reassigned to a different department as of last year.

Why would this effect Urban though? Unless it is against the rules and a fire-able offense, what would Urban do.

 

[billmac91]

Unless the infidelity occurred on campus/in the football facilities, that'd be absurd. That's assuming he even knew about it, of course.

Well, yeah, that’s kinda the issue. Smith was having an affair with an admin staffer for the football team, that got moved to volleyball in 2015, and she was then terminated in 2016 from that position.

That whole thing just looks bad on the surface, but doesn’t rise to the level of firing Meyer for Zach Smith’s infidelity. But as Smith’s direct boss, it looks bad when the woman adulterer gets moved to another sport and Smith gets resigned that offseason with no form of punishment other than a meager raise compared to his previous contracts.

 

[Ohio]

Word is there are pictures and video of the affair on school grounds with the former lady who was there working. She has been reassigned to a different department as of last year.

Ok, so let's assume that's true. Lets also assume Urban knew about it.

Full theory, in summary:

Urban's assistant coach was banging a co-worker, ON campus, IN the football facilities/offices, and he knew about it. Instead of firing him, or even just letting him finishing the season and then not retaining him, he signed him to an extension. Furthermore, he was a part of having the female reassigned to a different department.

...

Let me ask: If all of that is true, and there is proof of that, then why is he only getting suspended and not fired?

I ask this because it's what everyone else (especially outside Columbus) will be asking. I'm no expert but I imagine there's a rule against banging a co-worker while at work? Or perhaps it just falls under the general "moral" clause?

We haven't even talked about Gene Smith's fate in this scenario, assuming Meyer reported it to him or he found out otherwise...if we're suspending Meyer are we firing Gene?

Again, this is my point about a suspension not making a ton of sense. This particular scenario included.

 

[JDailey23]

Why would this effect Urban though? Unless it is against the rules and a fire-able offense, what would Urban do.

Having sex with a co-worker is a form of sexual harassment.

Ok, so let's assume that's true. Lets also assume Urban knew about it.

Full theory, in summary:

Urban's assistant coach was banging a co-worker, ON campus, IN the football facilities/offices, and he knew about it. Instead of firing him, or even just letting him finishing the season and then not retaining him, he signed him to an extension. Furthermore, he was a part of having the female reassigned to a different department.

...

Let me ask: If all of that is true, and there is proof of that, then why is he only getting suspended and not fired?

I ask this because it's what everyone else (especially outside Columbus) will be asking. I'm no expert but I imagine there's a rule against banging a co-worker while at work? Or perhaps it just falls under the general "moral" clause?

We haven't even talked about Gene Smith's fate in this scenario, assuming Meyer reported it to him or he found out otherwise...if we're suspending Meyer are we firing Gene?

Again, this is my point about a suspension not making a ton of sense. This particular scenario included.

exaclty my position. Only OSU people don’t see the issues. I was on the “Save Urban” train for a long time, but more and more is getting released. The girl who was part of the affair was reassigned, who made that call too?

https://watchstadium.com/news/zach-...s-staffer-nude-photos-white-house-08-17-2018/

 

[JDailey23]

FYI, Brett McMurphy is a piece of shit. He obviously has an ax to grind with someone and it’s apparent he’s willing to do anything to take down that university.

 

[billmac91]

Ok, so let's assume that's true. Lets also assume Urban knew about it.

Full theory, in summary:

Urban's assistant coach was banging a co-worker, ON campus, IN the football facilities/offices, and he knew about it. Instead of firing him, or even just letting him finishing the season and then not retaining him, he signed him to an extension. Furthermore, he was a part of having the female reassigned to a different department.

...

Let me ask: If all of that is true, and there is proof of that, then why is he only getting suspended and not fired?

I ask this because it's what everyone else (especially outside Columbus) will be asking. I'm no expert but I imagine there's a rule against banging a co-worker while at work? Or perhaps it just falls under the general "moral" clause?

We haven't even talked about Gene Smith's fate in this scenario, assuming Meyer reported it to him or he found out otherwise...if we're suspending Meyer are we firing Gene?

Again, this is my point about a suspension not making a ton of sense. This particular scenario included.

I think Meyer can be shown to have knowledge of the affair within the athletic department, but it not rise to the level of firing him. It’s not as if the woman was fired while Smith came out clean. She was reassigned based on her skill-set while he was retained but not given nearly the pay increase he was regularly receiving. It’s not like you could re-assign Zach Smith to the baseball team or swim team....like they did with her. Admin work isn’t that different across the sports. Why she was terminated in 2016 is kind of a mystery, but I don’t think it’d be put at Meyers feet.

Adultery isn’t a crime. Should he have resigned him? No. Bad judgement.

 

[Ohio]

I think Meyer can be shown to have knowledge of the affair within the athletic department, but it not rise to the level of firing him. It’s not as if the woman was fired while Smith came out clean. She was reassigned based on her skill-set while he was retained but not given nearly the pay increase he was regularly receiving. It’s not like you could re-assign Zach Smith to the baseball team or swim team....like they did with her. Admin work isn’t that different across the sports. Why she was terminated in 2016 is kind of a mystery, but I don’t think it’d be put at Meyers feet.

Adultery isn’t a crime. Should he have resigned him? No. Bad judgement.

Is fucking AT work a crime? I'd have to think there's some sort of rule or law against that..

 

[Ohio]

exaclty my position. Only OSU people don’t see the issues. I was on the “Save Urban” train for a long time, but more and more is getting released. The girl who was part of the affair was reassigned, who made that call too?

For the record, I am an "OSU people." I'm just saying, if that scenario is 100% true, then people will want Urban gone and they'd probably not be wrong in wanting that.

Again, can of worms...

 

[KB]

Having sex with a co-worker is a form of sexual harassment.

exaclty my position. Only OSU people don’t see the issues. I was on the “Save Urban” train for a long time, but more and more is getting released. The girl who was part of the affair was reassigned, who made that call too?

https://watchstadium.com/news/zach-...s-staffer-nude-photos-white-house-08-17-2018/

Sexual harassment is defined as unwelcome sexual advances

Consensual relationships are not a form of sexual harassment and neither is consensual sex

You're jumping the shark with some of the stuff you've posted on this situation.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Having sex with a co-worker is a form of sexual harassment.

No, it isn't. Not unless it was not consensual, or there were other unusual factors. And I say that as as employment lawyer who has litigated plenty of sexual harassment/discrimination claims.

It is poor judgement on both their parts, and perhaps morally scummy if one or both are married, but there is absolutely no presumption that either should be fired.

If they are actually doing it in a building, etc., that's pretty tacky, but I don't see why anyone outside the university should care. Other than spouses, but again...adultery is not a crime, and often not a fireable offense.

That being said, I know of more than one very high-ranking executive busted while banging someone in their office. And yes, they were let go. But the only injured party there is the employer, not anyone else.

Oh, and I have zero connection to OSU.

 

[EdMonix11]

Word is there are pictures and video of the affair on school grounds with the former lady who was there working. She has been reassigned to a different department as of last year.

Do you think Zach Smith was sexting Urban?

Cuz I'm pretty sure that'd be the only way Urban would've known about this affair.

I mean, I've never had an affair but I'd imagine people don't really publicize such things.

The biggest issue with workplace relationships is when one person is the others direct superior but that isn't the case here so why would Urban's job be in jeopardy?

Now, for whomever sent those photos to McMurphy.... is really toeing the line with regards to the law.

 

[Benedict_Boozer]

I think the other objective McMurphy had dropping this Zach Smith sex article is it's also a warning shot to the OSU staff that he could be sitting on other shit he will drop like bombs if Urb is retained. It's pretty clear he will go to any lengths at this point, damage to the children is out the window, same as actually vetting the accusations - it's all personal with him now and he wants to put that doubt and fear of bad press into the OSU committee.

 

[Tressel33]

I think the other objective McMurphy had dropping this Zach Smith sex article is it's also a warning shot to the OSU staff that he could be sitting on other shit he will drop like bombs if Urb is retained. It's pretty clear he will go to any lengths at this point, damage to the children is out the window, same as actually vetting the accusations - it's all personal with him now and he wants to put that doubt and fear of bad press into the OSU committee.

He doesn't have anything else. He fired his last bullet. Eff him

 

[Ohio]

He doesn't have anything else. He fired his last bullet. Eff him

Idk...I bet he's already contacted the girl Smith was cheating with.

 

[JDailey23]

I think Meyer can be shown to have knowledge of the affair within the athletic department, but it not rise to the level of firing him. It’s not as if the woman was fired while Smith came out clean. She was reassigned based on her skill-set while he was retained but not given nearly the pay increase he was regularly receiving. It’s not like you could re-assign Zach Smith to the baseball team or swim team....like they did with her. Admin work isn’t that different across the sports. Why she was terminated in 2016 is kind of a mystery, but I don’t think it’d be put at Meyers feet.

Adultery isn’t a crime. Should he have resigned him? No. Bad judgement.

He has a history of bad judgment. This is the worst one yet.