2018 Buckeyes Football

[AZ_]

I thought the investigative team was simply presenting their findings, not recommending action?

This meeting is about personnel actions, I’ve been told.

 

[Ohio]

This meeting is about personnel actions, I’ve been told.

As in, what to do with them?

 

[ticon12389]

If he gets anything more than time served it’s BS and I wouldn’t blame Urban if he didn’t accept it

 

[MGMT]

This meeting is about personnel actions, I’ve been told.

Fire the wives. They knew.

 

[AZ_]

As in, what to do with them?

Yep.

I don’t think it will be much. Knowing Thamel he probably already has an idea.

 

[Ohio]

If he gets anything more than time served it’s BS and I wouldn’t blame Urban if he didn’t accept it

The chances of a suspension being a fair & just punishment are pretty damn slim here.

Either he did what he needed to or he didn't. There just isn't much middle ground. Suspending him over toys or pictures or because the police may not have done a good job is lunacy. It would take one hell of a spin from Ohio State to sell a suspension to the public considering nobody would be happy with it.

Suspending him is probably the worst possible outcome of this. And it also leaves the door open on this whole thing.

 

[Ohio]

Yep.

I don’t think it will be much. Knowing Thamel he probably already has an idea.

I'm sure he does. A quick google search shows some history between him & Meyer. Dude was in Meyer's living room in 2014 when the playoff teams were announced..

By multiple accounts I've read, Urban truly believes he did nothing wrong (and expects a full reinstatement). In hindsight, it's difficult to imagine him making this statement otherwise:

View: https://twitter.com/OSUCoachMeyer/status/1025477101779075072

 

[AZ_]

I'm sure he does. A quick google search shows some history between him & Meyer. Dude was in Meyer's living room in 2014 when the playoff teams were announced..

By multiple accounts I've read, Urban truly believes he did nothing wrong (and expects a full reinstatement). In hindsight, it's difficult to imagine him making this statement otherwise:

View: https://twitter.com/OSUCoachMeyer/status/1025477101779075072

When this is all done, the tell all, Urban’s side of the story is almost certainly going to come through Thamel.

 

[JDailey23]

I don't agree with your viewpoint, but I do think your viewpoint will be shared by the staff - basically that the optics of it alone and media attention are bad enough that they just want to distance the University from it. Only way to do that in the eyes of the media and de-risk any blowback from the Me-Too crowd is to clean house. Everyone would have their pound of flesh and it would end it. Zach Smith, the guy who actually did something, isn't enough - they will want to take down the big fish and that's Urban Meyer.

I think that's a huge mistake, and will create a trickle down effect of other problems (not to mention they will literally have to pay Urb $40 mill) but it is what it is.

That’s what I’m saying. Myself, an outsider who doesn’t pay a lot of attention to OSU sees this as Urban not doing the “right” thing.
Imagine if your daughter was getting beat up by Smith and you knew Urban knew, but just “followed” protocol. And continued to let this POS work with young men over and over. Truth be told, Urban should have just let the dude go and not lied at media day. Him lying and saying he knew nothing was a bold face lie and makes him look like he’s covering up or hiding something. It is always about optics, times are different. You have to prove innocence now, not prove guilt.

 

[billmac91]

The chances of a suspension being a fair & just punishment are pretty damn slim here.

Either he did what he needed to or he didn't. There just isn't much middle ground. Suspending him over toys or pictures or because the police may not have done a good job is lunacy. It would take one hell of a spin from Ohio State to sell a suspension to the public considering nobody would be happy with it.

Suspending him is probably the worst possible outcome of this. And it also leaves the door open on this whole thing.

My speculation, but I think the suspension is going to come in some form of a “moral clause” that states Meyer knew of Smiths infidelity within the athletic department in 2015, and then resigned him when he simply could’ve let him walk that offseason.

 

[Ohio]

My speculation, but I think the suspension is going to come in some form of a “moral clause” that states Meyer knew of Smiths infidelity within the athletic department in 2015, and then resigned him when he simply could’ve let him walk that offseason.

Unless the infidelity occurred on campus/in the football facilities, that'd be absurd. That's assuming he even knew about it, of course.

 

[AZ_]

That’s what I’m saying. Myself, an outsider who doesn’t pay a lot of attention to OSU sees this as Urban not doing the “right” thing.
Imagine if your daughter was getting beat up by Smith and you knew Urban knew, but just “followed” protocol. And continued to let this POS work with young men over and over. Truth be told, Urban should have just let the dude go and not lied at media day. Him lying and saying he knew nothing was a bold face lie and makes him look like he’s covering up or hiding something. It is always about optics, times are different. You have to prove innocence now, not prove guilt.

Now imagine if Urban didn’t know, the police didn’t find it credible, and then his employer caved to media pressure based on some misleading and often personal reporting on the subject.

 

[Cavsfan1985]

That’s what I’m saying. Myself, an outsider who doesn’t pay a lot of attention to OSU sees this as Urban not doing the “right” thing.
Imagine if your daughter was getting beat up by Smith and you knew Urban knew, but just “followed” protocol. And continued to let this POS work with young men over and over. Truth be told, Urban should have just let the dude go and not lied at media day. Him lying and saying he knew nothing was a bold face lie and makes him look like he’s covering up or hiding something. It is always about optics, times are different. You have to prove innocence now, not prove guilt.

I get your view, but a couple of points, one Smith was not hurting or doing anything to a student, or someone employed by OSU. This is not a story of Smith being accused of beating a student or player. The issue is he is being accused of beating his wife, yet there is nothing we have seen that proves he did. If he did report what he heard to his superiors and they still signed off on keeping Smith how is this on Urban.

If he did report it, and did not try to cover it up, the only thing they could suspend him on is for misleading the media. For this, Urban can play the card the report was he was arrested, which we know he was not. So he did not lie, but defiantly could have answered it a better way.

My stance has always been, if he followed the rules and reported what he heard you cant fire it him. But, if he did not report, or knowing tried to cover it up to protect him when he knew we was guilty, he needs to be gone.

I also think what will come out of this is how the reporting process works, and what is a fire-able offense.

 

[JDailey23]

Unless the infidelity occurred on campus/in the football facilities, that'd be absurd. That's assuming he even knew about it, of course.

Word is there are pictures and video of the affair on school grounds with the former lady who was there working. She has been reassigned to a different department as of last year.

 

[bushwick_bill]

I thought the investigative team was simply presenting their findings, not recommending action?

They would present findings and their recommendation and the BoT can from this make their decision.