2018 College Football Season/Playoff Thread

[MGMT]

I’m fine with being left out but the Georgia leap is straight up intentional insult to injury.

 

[ticon12389]

Big ten is basically seen in the same light as a non power 5 conference now.

 

[AZ_]

Espin

This doesn’t make any sense. ESPN benefits financially from OSU over Oklahoma.

I’m not going to pretend there is some mythical bias amongst talking heads that has any meaningful influence

 

[Ohio]

The Big 10 needs to do one or both of these things:

1) Go back to playing only 8 conference games
2) Throwing out the divisions

This system is a literal joke, there's no way around it. But doing these things would go a long way into helping themselves. It isn't a level playing field right now having to play an extra conference game while the SEC & ACC are playing Division II schools. Both our bad losses the last two years came in that extra, cross-division conference game. Those games should have never even been played. We should have been blasting Akron in The 'Shoe by 50 points. And then we would have made the playoff each of the last 2 years.

Said it before, but the SEC & ACC have crafted guaranteed playoff spots by only playing 8 conference games. Big 10 needs to wake the fuck up.

 

[col63onel]

This doesn’t make any sense. ESPN benefits financially from OSU over Oklahoma.

I’m not going to pretend there is some mythical bias amongst talking heads that has any meaningful influence

What’s your explanation for a 2 loss sec non champion who’s best win is Kentucky being ahead of Osu?

 

[Huber.]

What’s your explanation for a 2 loss sec non champion who’s best win is Kentucky being ahead of Osu?

Probably because they didn't lose to Purdont by 29. Sending a message that bad losses mean more than mediocre wins

 

[redscoon]

Georgia had a bad loss, another loss, no conference title, no signature win. I don't see how they are 5. You can't say that you just believe they are a top 4 team, then turn around and put ND at 3.

I knew OSU had no shot, but all this BS about the important criteria that constantly changes from team to team is a bad look.

They knock OSU for being inconsistent, but ignore Oklahoma being equally if not more inconsistent. Conference title is significant when comparing OU to Georgia, but not OSU to Georgia? Who you beat is more important than who you lost to, unless you had no big wins and lost to Bama?

4 best teams vs. 4 most deserving are two different things and the committee flip flops on this all the time.

 

[billmac91]

This doesn’t make any sense. ESPN benefits financially from OSU over Oklahoma.

I’m not going to pretend there is some mythical bias amongst talking heads that has any meaningful influence

I think this is pretty naive. Big 10 is only duel contract among Power 5 teams that gives Fox their pick of games.

ESPN has leverage in every other conference TV deal. The CBS/ESPN SEC contract is more of a partnership. ESPN houses the SEC Network and uses Charlotte as their ESPNU headquarters.

Between cord cutting, loss of viewership, and Fox cutting into ESPN’s TV ratings, cutting the Big 10 out makes perfect long-term financial sense.

Had OSU been neck and neck with TCU/Baylor, with the exact same resume, this year, I see ESPN taking the ratings OSU brings to the TV set. But when you already have Bama, Clemson, and ND, you aren’t nearly reliant on OSU’s ratings draw.....especially when Oklahoma or Georgia is that #4 team.

Certainly, OSU’s popularity helped them in 2014. I just wish people understood this system has never been about fairness. It’s about business.

The Big 10 champ being left out 3 straight years is troubling. I can almost guarantee this doesn’t happen if the Big 10’s TV contract was reversed between Fox/ESPN. ESPN has no desire to elevate the status of the Big 10 when they’re setting regular season TV records on Fox.

I believe Delaney should send a message. I’m not a big “take the ball and go home” fan, but I’d do it if I were him depending on the contractual consequences. I’d issue a statement along the lines of “due to unforeseen influences among the CFP committee and television host, the Big 10 would no longer like to be under consideration for the playoff going forward. We will explore post season play going forward, but the current arrangement creates unequivocal conflict between our conference and the network hosting the tournament. We will not continue to subject our universities to a system improperly influenced by personal bias and financial motivations.”

I’d love it if Delaney came out tomorrow with that kind of statement......

 

[Ohio]

In 2015, 11-1 Ohio State was unanimously regarded as a top 4 team. Everyone knew it.

That team was ranked 7th in the CFP rankings.

Beyond just not getting into the playoff, they were ranked behind Iowa (lmfao) and a TWO loss Stanford team...

This system is broken. B R O K E N. Just a random group of dudes in a room moving the goalposts each year to fit whatever narrative they want. There is no precedent. There is no criteria. It's nothing more than blindly picking teams out of a hat.

 

[Cratylus]

In 2015, 11-1 Ohio State was unanimously regarded as a top 4 team. Everyone knew it.

That team was ranked 7th in the CFP rankings.

Beyond just not getting into the playoff, they were ranked behind Iowa (lmfao) and a TWO loss Stanford team...

This system is broken. B R O K E N. Just a random group of dudes in a room moving the goalposts each year to fit whatever narrative they want. There is no precedent. There is no criteria. It's nothing more than blindly picking teams out of a hat.

Yeah, the problem is that there are too many criteria they can point to in order to defend whatever outcome they want to have happen. Every year it seems there are 6 to 8 teams that have some sort of legitimate case to be in consideration. If they expanded the field to 8 it would solve just about every problem we have with the current system. This year you'd have the top 6 + Michigan and UCF. I think just about everyone would agree with those 8 being in an eight team playoff.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

Seeing OSU finish at 6 it makes me wonder...would Michigan have got in with a win over OSU and a Big Ten title? The committee clearly didn't value the Big Ten champ.

 

[Cavsfan1985]

I really think the big ten needs to look at going back to the 8 conference games, and change up the divisions. Michigan and OSU on one side and PSU MSU other side. Allow us to have teams run table on both sides.

 

[Rich]

Again, I dont know Why d1 college football is the only spoet in America that cant have a real playoff.

Teams have been getting screwed over since forever. Whether its a committee or a bowl alliance or a cluster of poll voters.

Tradition needs to give way for fairness. Its not fair UCF hasnt had a shot to play for a title. Utah was lrgitimately the best team in 2008 and instead a 2 loss Florida team "won" the title.

And there's no way to legimtiately say Oklahoma is obviously a better team than Ohio State, or vice versa.

4 team system sucks. It paid off for us in 2014 and screwed over TCU. 8 teams minimum.

 

[Ohio]

I won't be watching one second of this ESPN Invitational, that's for damn sure. Couldn't possibly be less interested.

 

[Rich]

I really think the big ten needs to look at going back to the 8 conference games, and change up the divisions. Michigan and OSU on one side and PSU MSU other side. Allow us to have teams run table on both sides.

You change it and then the power teams change. Like..Nebraska was supposed to balance it out. Historically, they're a superior program to Michigan State. By a lot.

And Penn State was in thr middle of a down spell when they made the divisions.