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His feet navigating the pocket at Cal..
The footwork for Goff was one of his best traits.
His feet navigating the pocket at Cal..
The footwork for Goff was one of his best traits.
If intangibles didn't exist, Rosen would be my overwhelming top choice on the board.
He has the best combination of size, arm strength, accuracy and mechanics.
It's just difficult to play QB in the NFL if you're a selfish/me first kind of guy. Plus, he's already had shoulder surgery on his throwing arm and has missed other time with various injuries.
His character concerns would need to be vetted to the extreme before I'd be comfortable taking him.
Nobody would have thought that last year though.I just like how the Rams identified their guy, moved up, took him. Franchise changing move.
Which is perfectly okay even if it didn’t work out.. But again, they identified their guy and got him.Nobody would have thought that last year though.
Yeah, Goff was our guy. Like everyone here wanted him. Sigh...
Sell me on what Rosen does better than what Kizer did in college. Completion % and TD/Int are almost identical. I have watched very little of Rosen I’m just curious.
Back with some more mocks. CBS & DraftWire (4 rounder).
CBS:
1. Cleveland Browns
Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State.
What? Another defensive end? Sure, why not? Myles Garrett has lived up to the billing in his rookie year. Beyond him though, the Browns have essentially no semblance of a pass rush. Chubb can play the strongside defensive end spot opposite Garrett and opposing offensive tackles will have their hands full against the Browns for a long time.
8. Cleveland Browns from Texans
Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State.
Here's an exception to the rule for this mock draft. There are only so many adequate free-agent quarterbacks out there, and the Browns definitely have plenty of needs, quarterback being one of them. Rudolph is the opposite of DeShone Kizer. He's experienced, comfortable in the pocket, and accurate.
DraftWire:
1. Cleveland Browns | Josh Rosen | QB | UCLA
An apparent failed attempt to trade for A.J. McCarron proves the Browns aren’t sold on rookie second-rounder DeShone Kizer. If they go QB at the top of next year’s draft, Rosen makes the most sense right now.
8. Cleveland Browns (from HOU) | Derwin James | S | Florida State
When you’re as bad as the Browns have been, you have to just keep adding as much pure talent as possible, and they have a plethora of picks with which they can take as many shots as possible. James is a ridiculous athlete and a much more polished defender than Jabrill Peppers.
33. Cleveland Browns | Ronald Jones II | RB | USC
40. Cleveland Browns (from HOU) | Jaire Alexander | CB | Louisville
64. Cleveland Browns (from PHI) | Tremaine Edmunds | LB | Virginia Tech
65. Cleveland Browns | Dante Pettis | WR | Washington
97. Cleveland Browns | Da’Shawn Hand | DL | Alabama
120. Cleveland Browns (from CAR) | Jake Wieneke | WR | South Dakota State
Sell me on what Rosen does better than what Kizer did in college. Completion % and TD/Int are almost identical. I have watched very little of Rosen I’m just curious.
Yet that's essentially what you did here in holding his QBR against him, which relies heavily on attempts and completions. BTW, Kizer was nominated for Rookie of the Week for only "not shitting himself".Therein lies the danger of looking solely at completion percentage when trying to evaluate a quarterback's accuracy.
Screen heavy offenses can gas up completion percentages whereas offenses that feature a lot more downfield passing will naturally lower completion percentage. Drops, spikes, batted passes, QB hits because of poor OL all play a role.
I don't think it's out of line to say that Rosen processes what's in front of him much faster AND is significantly more accurate than Kizer.
Let's put it this way...
I happy that Kizer didn't shit himself today, but 7 more games of what he showed today (73.3 QB rating) and I'm still drafting a QB in the top 5.
Yet that's essentially what you did here in holding his QBR against him, which relies heavily on attempts and completions. BTW, Kizer was nominated for Rookie of the Week for only "not shitting himself".