2018 NBA Draft - June 21

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

OK, yeah, Mikal Bridges is legit.

Maybe it's because of the Nets pick, but everyday there's another player I would be ok with the team drafting.

Do we even want to end inside the top 5? Don't want Porter, Ayton, Bagley and Doncic with our bust history. On the other hand, Mikal is probably a late 1st round pick for the Cavs and if we end outside the top 5 McCoy is going to be our Bennett fix.

Seriously, This draft as far as impact players go extends past the top 5 and is pretty damn scary inside the top 5.

 

[czvo]

Do we even want to end inside the top 5? Don't want Porter, Ayton, Bagley and Doncic with our bust history. On the other hand, Mikal is probably a late 1st round pick for the Cavs and if we end outside the top 5 McCoy is going to be our Bennett fix.

Seriously, This draft as far as impact players go extends past the top 5 and is pretty damn scary inside the top 5.

I think you're a little more down on the top-5 guys than you should be if only because you've nitpicked them more than others.

I'm also not aware of this "bust" history you're referring to. Bennett was a bust, but Kyrie was a hit, TT was a hit, Wiggins has been... whatever, Waiters wasn't given the best role to succeed here (and also didn't accept the role the team needed him to when LeBron came back).

As for where Bridges is drafted, how do you figure he's a late first? I'm seeing most places list him as a late lotto.


(And yes, you do want the team to end up in the top-5. The higher they end up, the more options they have to choose from and potentially trade for.)

 

[Nathan S]

I don't know why you peg him as a potential tweener and put him in that square. You are tweener if you can't guard your matchup or/and you don't have a role on offense in the same position. (IE: Miles Bridges because he can't shoot 3 at an elite level to be a stretch 4 , can't create well enough to be a 3 and his measurements put him in the tweener zone)

Mikal is 6'7, wiry with 7'2 wingspan and has decent frame on him.. On defense, he will be able to guard 2-4 at a proficient level, and on offense his 3 will open up his game whether he plays the 2 or the 4 and his first step along with his elite finishing ability will allow him to be a very good perimeter player that can create for himself in a motion offense.

If Khris Middleton whos a worse player in almost every catergory can carve a close to a star level career before the injury then Mikal can certainly do just aswell as a floor.

Miles Bridges is considered a top 10 prospect, what is he better than Mikal at?

Mikal is probably around 7 for me with Jaren Jackson 1 spot ahead. Going to watch Jacskon tonight so i'll have some more info.

Obviously Miles has been disappointing offensively so far this year (and I'm not necessarily saying I prefer him over Mikal overall), but he's proven himself more as a rebounder and shot blocker than Mikal has so far.

If Mikal really does have a good enough first step and finishing ability to be a threat off the dribble at the NBA level, then sure, sign me up. If he projects purely as a 3&D guy, then I think late lottery is a more likely landing spot.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

I think you're a little more down on the top-5 guys than you should be if only because you've nitpicked them more than others.

I'm also not aware of this "bust" history you're referring to. Bennett was a bust, but Kyrie was a hit, TT was a hit, Wiggins has been... whatever, Waiters wasn't given the best role to succeed here (and also didn't accept the role the team needed him to when LeBron came back).

As for where Bridges is drafted, how do you figure he's a late first? I'm seeing most places list him as a late lotto.


(And yes, you do want the team to end up in the top-5. The higher they end up, the more options they have to choose from and potentially trade for.)

What I said was that the Cavs probably view Mikal as a late 1st, not that this is his value. Not a serious comment per se, but just that we miss on a lot of drafts.

Bennett is a bust, Waiters is a bust, TT is a bust, Wiggins is a bust on a superstar contract and Kyrie is a hit. I don't know, I'm obviously nitpicking, but in this draft which is infested with bigs, that's what you should do, because the little things determine at the end whether a big is impactful or not at the NBA... because offense alone isn't enough.

OBviously the definition of bust is somewhat of subjective term, but I consider a bust a much broader term than just players that couldn't stick in the league or lottery picks that became bench players.

I think it all depends on what happens with Lebron if i'm being honest. I hope he tells us before the draft.

 

[3 Ball...GOT IT]

I don't know why you peg him as a potential tweener and put him in that square. You are tweener if you can't guard your matchup or/and you don't have a role on offense in the same position. (IE: Miles Bridges because he can't shoot 3 at an elite level to be a stretch 4 , can't create well enough to be a 3 and his measurements put him in the tweener zone)

Mikal is 6'7, wiry with 7'2 wingspan and has decent frame on him.. On defense, he will be able to guard 2-4 at a proficient level, and on offense his 3 will open up his game whether he plays the 2 or the 4 and his first step along with his elite finishing ability will allow him to be a very good perimeter player that can create for himself in a motion offense.

If Khris Middleton whos a worse player in almost every catergory can carve a close to a star level career before the injury then Mikal can certainly do just aswell as a floor.

Miles Bridges is considered a top 10 prospect, what is he better than Mikal at?

Mikal is probably around 7 for me with Jaren Jackson 1 spot ahead. Going to watch Jacskon tonight so i'll have some more info.

This is what I came up with after watching a good amount of him. I think they're handy to have when you're watching a guy exclusively.

 

[czvo]

What I said was that the Cavs probably view Mikal as a late 1st, not that this is his value. Not a serious comment per se, but just that we miss on a lot of drafts.

Who do you know in their scouting department?

Bennett is a bust, Waiters is a bust, TT is a bust, Wiggins is a bust on a superstar contract and Kyrie is a hit. I don't know, I'm obviously nitpicking, but in this draft which is infested with bigs, that's what you should do, because the little things are what makes a big impactful, and not only look good.

OBviously the definition of bust is somewhat of subjective term, but I consider a bust a much broader term than just players that couldn't stick in the league or bench players picked in the early lottery.

I think it all depends on what happens with Lebron if i'm being honest. I hope he tells us before the draft.

Man, I hope you don't take this as an insult, because it's absolutely not my intention here.... but do get ANY joy out of watching the Cavs? Like is there anything about this team or franchise that you don't have an overly negative view of?

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Who do you know in their scouting department?

No, I don't know anyone personally, but I'm going by drafting history, trade history and other peculiar acquisitons over the years. I have no idea who's pulling the strings over there and what's Dan's involvement in the decisions over the years( I know that he is involved more than your typical owner for sure). I think our drafting choices were poor, especially outside the lottery.

Man, I hope you don't take this as an insult, because it's absolutely not my intention here.... but do get ANY joy out of watching the Cavs? Like is there anything about this team or franchise that you don't have an overly negative view of?

Yes, I get a joy watching the Cavs, I did get more joy when I was able to play basketball (at a high level) and had better, more enjoyable life in general, but since I probably watch every game live right now at 2:00-4:00AM I can say that it's a "passion" of mine. Sure, i'm more critical than others around here, but that's because they ARE a big part of my life. I can tell you that when I had a lot of stuff going on I was less critical because it mattered less, not because they were perfect.

Don't know what ignited your response that time as I was merely approaching it as a "joke" ... was siting top 4 cavs draft picks that other than KYrie are considered busts as none of them is close to an all-star and other than TT are all net negative players, and this draft has big question marks at the top.

So yeah, I do enjoy cavs game even if I come out as negative. Is it clear?

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

If anyone wants to watch Sexton tonight http://onthego.live/ncaa/stream2/

 

[3 Ball...GOT IT]

Does anyone know a site with player measurements? I'm talking with wingspan, reach, etc.

DX doesn't have them on like any of this year's guys.

Somewhere consistent that would have all of them? Annoying to have to research something like that for every player lol.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Does anyone know a site with player measurements? I'm talking with wingspan, reach, etc.

DX doesn't have them on like any of this year's guys.

Somewhere consistent that would have all of them? Annoying to have to research something like that for every player lol.

NOPE

 

[Nathan S]

If anyone wants to watch Sexton tonight http://onthego.live/ncaa/stream2/

Man...if he came back to earth against LA Tech last week, he went deep inside the earth today

That's just going by the box score though. Did you end up watching, and if so, did he look as bad as 0/4 fg, 3 ast, 3 TO suggests?

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Man...if he came back to earth against LA Tech last week, he went deep inside the earth today

That's just going by the box score though. Did you end up watching, and if so, did he look as bad as 0/4 fg, 3 ast, 3 TO suggests?

Passive, played a lot off the ball, just didn't do much. Sexton relies on inside scoring and foul drawing and that usually opens up his game and raises his confidence to shoot 3's and shoot off the dribble. Tonight it seems like he was afraid of going inside, especially with Tacko Fall 7'6 (8'4 wingspan) in the game, so he just didn't take any shots as you see by the box score stats.

Sexton is going to have his hands full in the NBA.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

We will probably not know what Jackson can really do up until his workouts or even summer league.

He reminds me of TT in Texas, but with better range and defensive instincts. Kinda wish he had better standing reach... 9'1 for a center is on the lower side.

 

[Photon]

We are due to hit the jackpot with this pick. Because maybe not all can be labeled as real busts, nobody did anything extra. Unfortunately. If just one of the players that we could keep outside of Love trade would have had a career as good as his draft position suggested, we would be in excellent shape to go against GS from the beginning.
No use of feeling too sorry, but I am somewhat angry directly at players for not doing anything extra with their talents.

Looks like we need way better mental evaluation pre draft...

 

[Photon]