2018 NBA Draft - June 21

[3 Ball...GOT IT]

So Porter did a presser the other day and said he initially hurt his back TWO YEARS AGO, and that it got progressively worse until he could no longer play.

He also said that, since the surgery, he now realizes he played his senior year not even close to 100% and that he feels so much better than he did last year.

Yea he's had nerve pain for a long time and it wasn't until this year that it went down into his leg. If you actually watch him on the bench he was rubbing his left knee that was clearly in pain.

I watched a good amount on Michael Porter and I really am struggling to rank him solely because of his jump shot. At EYBL he shot something like 30% from three I believe. He shot poorly from 3 in both the McDonald's All-American game as well as at the Nike Hoops Summit. In the preseason game that Missouri played, against Kansas I believe, he also struggled shooting the 3.

I can't find reliable information on his shooting % during high school, and I know that he's a good FT shooter + has good mechanics, but I think people are glossing over this potential issue. If he doesn't have a quality jumper, my ranking of him would drop considerably. I wonder if teams have a similar viewpoint. It would do alot for me to see him get back before the end of the season and play in actual games, but I doubt that happens.

So much for me rides on his Combine performance (though I doubt he will even compete in the scrimmages) and whatever pre-draft workout information becomes available to the public.

Does anyone else know where to find his 3p% during HS? I found one site with stats, but they were way way off and had him attempting like 0.8 threes per game or something.

 

[czvo]

Yea he's had nerve pain for a long time and it wasn't until this year that it went down into his leg. If you actually watch him on the bench he was rubbing his left knee that was clearly in pain.

I watched a good amount on Michael Porter and I really am struggling to rank him solely because of his jump shot. At EYBL he shot something like 30% from three I believe. He shot poorly from 3 in both the McDonald's All-American game as well as at the Nike Hoops Summit. In the preseason game that Missouri played, against Kansas I believe, he also struggled shooting the 3.

I can't find reliable information on his shooting % during high school, and I know that he's a good FT shooter + has good mechanics, but I think people are glossing over this potential issue. If he doesn't have a quality jumper, my ranking of him would drop considerably. I wonder if teams have a similar viewpoint. It would do alot for me to see him get back before the end of the season and play in actual games, but I doubt that happens.

So much for me rides on his Combine performance (though I doubt he will even compete in the scrimmages) and whatever pre-draft workout information becomes available to the public.

Does anyone else know where to find his 3p% during HS? I found one site with stats, but they were way way off and had him attempting like 0.8 threes per game or something.

Don't know where you would find that, but he has good mechanics and a good work ethic. I would be incredibly surprised if he doesn't become a good shooter.

It kind of reminds me of the "concerns" about Beal's shooting when he was coming out. Only 34% from three his one year in college, and so many people were confused how a guy with a beautiful shot like his couldn't shoot. He turned out fine.

 

[Nathan S]

Yea he's had nerve pain for a long time and it wasn't until this year that it went down into his leg. If you actually watch him on the bench he was rubbing his left knee that was clearly in pain.

I watched a good amount on Michael Porter and I really am struggling to rank him solely because of his jump shot. At EYBL he shot something like 30% from three I believe. He shot poorly from 3 in both the McDonald's All-American game as well as at the Nike Hoops Summit. In the preseason game that Missouri played, against Kansas I believe, he also struggled shooting the 3.

I can't find reliable information on his shooting % during high school, and I know that he's a good FT shooter + has good mechanics, but I think people are glossing over this potential issue. If he doesn't have a quality jumper, my ranking of him would drop considerably. I wonder if teams have a similar viewpoint. It would do alot for me to see him get back before the end of the season and play in actual games, but I doubt that happens.

So much for me rides on his Combine performance (though I doubt he will even compete in the scrimmages) and whatever pre-draft workout information becomes available to the public.

Does anyone else know where to find his 3p% during HS? I found one site with stats, but they were way way off and had him attempting like 0.8 threes per game or something.

According to DX, he shot 36.1% from 3 in 20 EYBL games (72 attempts) last year. That's not stellar, but taken together with his good mechanics and 84.4% free throw shooting over the same span (136 attempts) I feel reasonably confident that his shot will translate to the NBA.

 

[Nathan S]

Gilgeous-Alexander started (his first start, I think?) and scored right away on a layup. Wouldn't be surprised if he has a big game tonight.

 

[3 Ball...GOT IT]

Gilgeous-Alexander started (his first start, I think?) and scored right away on a layup. Wouldn't be surprised if he has a big game tonight.

Thought the same thing, but apparently he's started two other games.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Kentucky games are a snoozefest. Just boring offense.

 

[3 Ball...GOT IT]

Trae Young is 1 for 12 (0-3 from three) with 5 points, 6 ast, 4 stl, 1 blk, and 1 TO at halftime. Expected him to possibly struggle against Texas Tech, one of the best defenses in the country.


Meanwhile Shai Gilgeous-Alexander continues to play well. Was averaging 16.5 ppg in the last 4 games. Kevin Knox struggling yet again with foul trouble.

 

[Bdawgs12]

Trae Young is 1 for 12 (0-3 from three) with 5 points, 6 ast, 4 stl, 1 blk, and 1 TO at halftime. Expected him to possibly struggle against Texas Tech, one of the best defenses in the country.


Meanwhile Shai Gilgeous-Alexander continues to play well. Was averaging 16.5 ppg in the last 4 games. Kevin Knox struggling yet again with foul trouble.

Trae has turned it around just a bit. The more I watch him the more I think he is going to be a stud in the NBA. He is perfect for todays NBA. Not the most athletic but very skilled. GREAT passer and at this point is a great shooter who will only get better especially when he has way more space to work in the NBA

 

[Nathan S]

Trae Young is 1 for 12 (0-3 from three) with 5 points, 6 ast, 4 stl, 1 blk, and 1 TO at halftime. Expected him to possibly struggle against Texas Tech, one of the best defenses in the country.


Meanwhile Shai Gilgeous-Alexander continues to play well. Was averaging 16.5 ppg in the last 4 games. Kevin Knox struggling yet again with foul trouble.

Gilgeous-Alexander averaging more assists, more steals+blocks than Knox and Diallo combined.

 

[MD13]

What happened to Robert Williams this year? How come he's still coming off the bench and statistically it seems he's taken a bit of a step backwards?

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Wow... Young just made a ridiculous pass to Lattin and he missed a bunny.

Young is one of the best passers i have seen.

 

[3 Ball...GOT IT]

Trae has turned it around just a bit. The more I watch him the more I think he is going to be a stud in the NBA. He is perfect for todays NBA. Not the most athletic but very skilled. GREAT passer and at this point is a great shooter who will only get better especially when he has way more space to work in the NBA

Trae Young vs Texas Tech
1H: 5 points (1-12 FG, 0-3 3PT), 6 AST, 1 TO
2H: 22 points (6-11 FG, 4-7 3PT), 1 AST, 3 TO

He's aight

What happened to Robert Williams this year? How come he's still coming off the bench and statistically it seems he's taken a bit of a step backwards?

Not much of a change from last year on his per-minute numbers. His usage/role is down largely because they added two guards, TJ Starks (freshman) and Duane Wilson (Marquette transfer) who both have 20%+ USG rates.

He's getting drafted almost entirely on his athletic + length upside, and he looks equally as athletic as last year. If he was any good offensively with those tools he'd be a top 8-10 pick. There's always room in the NBA for a rim runner/finisher with his tools. His shot mechanics are good enough that it gives you some hope he could maybe develop a jumper.

 

[MD13]

Trae Young vs Texas Tech
1H: 5 points (1-12 FG, 0-3 3PT), 6 AST, 1 TO
2H: 22 points (6-11 FG, 4-7 3PT), 1 AST, 3 TO

He's aight



Not much of a change from last year on his per-minute numbers. His usage/role is down largely because they added two guards, TJ Starks (freshman) and Duane Wilson (Marquette transfer) who both have 20%+ USG rates.

He's getting drafted almost entirely on his athletic + length upside, and he looks equally as athletic as last year. If he was any good offensively with those tools he'd be a top 8-10 pick. There's always room in the NBA for a rim runner/finisher with his tools. His shot mechanics are good enough that it gives you some hope he could maybe develop a jumper.

I remember reading a bunch of pieces this summer about how he wanted to come back to develop his game and he was working hard to extend his range out to the 3 point line, and it just hasn't happened. In retrospect it may be a bad move to not come out last year.

 

[Nathan S]

CBS's mock draft from yesterday has the Cavs getting Young and Gilgeous-Alexander. I'd probably die of happiness

 

[stick]

Question for those that follow these prospects/college basketball:

If the Cavs keep their own first round pick, would Khyri Thomas from Creighton be available late first round?

While his name alone garners my interest , he seems like he could be a good back-court buddy for IT (known as a perimeter defender with around 6'10" wingspan, also can knock down catch-and-shoot 3s) should the Cavs retain him this offseason. Could see him fulfilling an Avery Bradley-esque role. Again, don't know much about his game and haven't watched him aside from a highlight video or two, but thought I would throw the idea out there.