2019 NBA Draft Lottery

[Kiddo]

Rui Hachimura is probably the guy at 5 who has the most upside.

Sexton
Jedi
Hachimura

 

[AussieCavFan]

Rui Hachimura is probably the guy at 5 who has the most upside.

Sexton
Jedi
Hachimura

He fits the mentality of player we are looking for too. You can see him getting everything out of himself, similar to Collin and Cedi. My concern is if his lack of fluidity offensively limits him to the 4. I think he could be a good 4 but if he could add some class and fluidity on the perimeter he could be a great 3 who could play small ball 4 or even 5 in some packages.

 

[I'mWithDan]

He's an efficient scorer with good size which is what I want at the 2 guard. I really don't understand minimizing the most desired NBA skill of scoring. No team that is serious about eventually contending can have offensive black holes at their guard positions.

Efficient scorer? By What measure?

Ranks among the 2019 draft class perimeter / wing players in parenthesis

Coby White:

PPFGA: 1.265 (45)
FTA/FGA: 0.295 (47)
PTS/100: 29.6 (22)

He's a really average scorer from an efficiency standpoint.

For context...

Garland in limited games:

PPFGA: 1.502 (7)
FTA/FGA: 0.295 (46)
PTS/100: 33.5 (10)

Morant:

PPFGA: 1.522 (4)
FTA/FGA: 0.510 (3)
PTS/100: 37.3 (6)

White isn't close to either of the other top guards in scoring efficiency. He's basically a much worse version of Garland. Doesn't draw fouls like Garland but then a significantly worse shooter from all levels.

White is a higher volume shooter that is an incredibly average scorer at the college level. Those guys are huge bust candidates, if your argument is that is supposed to be his NBA skill.

 

[Triplethreat]

Volume shooting != Scoring Ability

For every good game he had 2-3 bad ones. Apparently, it needs to be pointed out again and again that Reddish was jacking up shots to the tune of .356 FG%. He was essentially Fatoine Walker in a Duke uniform. There's no positive spin for his subpar play whatsoever -- especially with teams game-planning to stop Zion and Barrett.

Drafting him @ 5 would be a huge mistake.

You were probably the guy saying the same bullshit about Trae Young last year....

Reddish should be the pick. Most upside, and played way out his comfort zone last year but it will actually help him long term. He had to LEARN how to play without the ball in his hands.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

He's an efficient scorer with good size which is what I want at the 2 guard. I really don't understand minimizing the most desired NBA skill of scoring. No team that is serious about eventually contending can have offensive black holes at their guard positions.

I also would like to see Sexton paired with a larger 2 guard. The problem is that White doesn't fit that criteria -- he actually has poor size for a shooting guard. He's only 191 pounds, and that wingspan and standing reach are in "smaller point guard" territory.

View: https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1128722751106240513


For comparison, Sexton's wingspan was 6'7.25" and his standing reach was 8'2.5". So in terms of length, White is actually smaller than Sexton. He's just a couple of inches taller, which doesn't help if your reach is still less.

 

[Green Lantern]

Culver has a higher ceiling. Hunter is the safe boring pick. That's likely the reason.

Key for me is defense. No one on the current roster at either guard/SF positions are great defenders.

 

[I LOVE YOU ABBY]

Watashi wa anata o aishiteimasu

 

[weepinwillow]

You don’t think De’Andre’s upside limited, as a 21-year-old?

That's always the question, I guess I don't think it's limited. If you are looking unlimited upside, Reddish makes more sense, problem being you have nearly unlimited downside too.

I think De'Andre's floor is good starter maybe Otto Portor-y upside is Danny Granger-y, possibly more. What can't you get better at at 21 that you can at 19?

I also think it's very likely he will be off the board at 4 once workouts come and go. So may be moot.

 

[froginctown]

These things are why I think Koby, Gilbert, and the front office will ultimately pass on Reddish. Koby really seems to want tough and hard working players. I think it's the biggest attribute they look for and a must have. After Bennett I think they won't discount it for measurables and percentages.

I hope Koby passes on Reddish. IMO you can't undervalue work ethic, willingness to learn, etc. Exhibit A is Sexton.

 

[I'mWithDan]

Garland has a buttery-ness to his game. He has probably the best handle in the class, and maybe even the most range too.

But his defense needs a lot of work. And he's not a great finisher at the rim. Just doesn't have the length or explosion.

If he's our guy, that means Sexton's gone. But I doubt we give up on Sexton after the incredible leap forward he made. He was legit unstoppable down the stretch, with his elite first step and 3-point shooting combination. I think he'll progress as a passer too, not gonna put it past him.

The Cam Reddish stuff is an obvious smokescreen.

Can anyone think of an NBA guard that isn’t a good rim finisher AND doesn't draw fouls?

That’s really my hangup with Garland, as just more of an average NBA creator. His impact is so predicated on his perimeter shooting, which is just tougher to sustain over the course of a long season or 7 game series. If his shot isn’t falling, he really doesn’t have a secondary skill to fall back on.....on either end of the floor.

And as you said, doesn’t have the frame or athleticism to likely grown in to even an average NBA defender IMO.....which when coupled with his inability to finish at a high level over length / draw fouls, he’s just not an exciting pick at all to me. Maybe I’m in the minority.

 

[NMCav]

Garland has a buttery-ness to his game. He has probably the best handle in the class, and maybe even the most range too.

But his defense needs a lot of work. And he's not a great finisher at the rim. Just doesn't have the length or explosion.

If he's our guy, that means Sexton's gone. But I doubt we give up on Sexton after the incredible leap forward he made. He was legit unstoppable down the stretch, with his elite first step and 3-point shooting combination. I think he'll progress as a passer too, not gonna put it past him.

The Cam Reddish stuff is an obvious smokescreen.

If Garland is the guy it doesn't mean Sexton is gone. If Blazers can ride Lillard and McCollum to the WCF. Sexton Garland could work here.

 

[froginctown]

Key for me is defense. No one on the current roster at either guard/SF positions are great defenders.

Agreed. And this is where work ethic, willingness to learn, etc really shine. For players in the top 10 of the draft, defense is as much about will as it is skill.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

IMO the Cavs have a clear choice at #5.
It's Darius Garland. To me, he's like Kyrie, except Garland is a willing and creative passer. Like Kyrie, his college career was very limited - just like Kyrie. Great handles, great shot, great moves. I can only imagine what a teacher like Beilein could do for him.
If he played a full season, he probably would be the second pick in the draft.

Here is a video made before his injury.
https://youtu.be/Q4F9eyCYjfQ

 

[weepinwillow]

IMO the Cavs have a clear choice at #5.
It's Darius Garland. To me, he's like Kyrie, except Garland is a willing and creative passer. Like Kyrie, his college career was very limited - just like Kyrie. Great handles, great shot, great moves. I can only imagine what a teacher like Beilein could do for him.
If he played a full season, he probably would be the second pick in the draft.

Here is a video made before his injury.
https://youtu.be/Q4F9eyCYjfQ

While I'm still not totally sold on Sexton, wouldn't Garland basically mean it's an either/or kind of deal? I don't see how they fit together. That said, there is zero way I'd let Sexton's roster presence influence my pick beyond an "all things are equal" point.

 

[CavsFTW]

You were probably the guy saying the same bullshit about Trae Young last year....

Reddish should be the pick. Most upside, and played way out his comfort zone last year but it will actually help him long term. He had to LEARN how to play without the ball in his hands.

LOL Are you seriously trying to compare Trae Young to Cam Reddish?

Trae Young was 1000x the prospect that Cam Reddish is. Young led the nation in APG and PPG. He had a .585 TS% as the #1 option on his team. Reddish couldn't even crack .500 TS% as a THIRD OPTION behind Zion and Barrett. His most eye popping stat wasn't leading the nation in scoring or assists, but that he shot .356 on the most stacked team in the nation.

No offense my friend, but we like you much better here as a poster than as our GM.