2019 NBA Draft

[CavsFan07]

Hypothetical that's not been discussed yet here. Say the Cavs fall to 6th in the draft (20.1% chance), and the draft order goes as follows:

1. Zion
2. Morant
3. Barrett
4. Culver
5. Hunter

Let's say there's also no trade out opportunities that the Cavs like. Who are you taking in this spot?

Jaxson Hayes all day for me... raw, but unlimited potential. He's like a poor man's Anthony Davis in terms of length and crazy potential (AD's game was obviously way more offensively polished coming out of college).

Hayes projects as a high level rim protector... if his offensive game can come around and he can even stretch it out to the 3 point line - you're looking at a serious talent.

 

[CavsFan07]

College stats of Jaxson Hayes + Anthony Davis in college.

Anthony Davis: 6'10" 220 lbs

- 32 minute per game average
- 14.2 ppg
- 10.4 rpg
- 1.3 apg
- 1.7 spg
- 4.7 bpg
- 2 point FG% - 65.3%
- FT% - 70.9%

Jaxson Hayes 6'11" 220 lbs

- 23 minute per game average
- 10 ppg
- 5 rpg
- 0.3 apg
- 0.6 spg
- 2.2 bpg
- 2 point FG% - 72.8%
- FT% - 74%


Again, I'm not saying Hayes can get upto AD's level or even that close to it.. and as you can see his offensive game is way behind AD's in college..... but he has loads of untapped potential and Beilein has been terrific at improving his bigs.

 

[3 Ball...GOT IT]

College stats of Jaxson Hayes + Anthony Davis in college.

Anthony Davis: 6'10" 220 lbs

- 32 minute per game average
- 14.2 ppg
- 10.4 rpg
- 1.3 apg
- 1.7 spg
- 4.7 bpg
- 2 point FG% - 65.3%
- FT% - 70.9%

Jaxson Hayes 6'11" 220 lbs

- 23 minute per game average
- 10 ppg
- 5 rpg
- 0.3 apg
- 0.6 spg
- 2.2 bpg
- 2 point FG% - 72.8%
- FT% - 74%


Again, I'm not saying Hayes can get upto AD's level or even that close to it.. and as you can see his offensive game is way behind AD's in college..... but he has loads of untapped potential and Beilein has been terrific at improving his bigs.

I like Hayes, but then you're getting into the conversation about investing a massive asset in a non-offensive center. That's the most replaceable role that there is in the NBA.

 

[Ozone]

I like Hayes, but then you're getting into the conversation about investing a massive asset in a non-offensive center. That's the most replaceable role that there is in the NBA.

Yeah after this Beilein hire they are not drafting anyone that can't shoot 3's pass and defend or is a 1# option ball handler/scorer.
I like Hayes, but it would not be my bet on who they would pick at all.
With the top 5 order of
1. Zion
2. Morant
3. Barrett
4. Culver
5. Hunter
(which I do not agree is the most likely)
I would be looking at Garland and White as trade chips to move down a spot and pick up another asset.
Or I would take one of Sekou,Kevin Porter or Reddish

 

[Nathan S]

I know I've been beating this drum to death, but Bitadze would be a fantastic fit with Beilein coming in to coach. Basically a supercharged Jon Teske. Easy to imagine him developing into one of the league's premier 2-way centers.

EDIT: Relatedly, pointed out in S34 that Cedi was at his Serbian league game the other day:

 

[WorldFreeB]

I know I've been beating this drum to death, but Bitadze would be a fantastic fit with Beilein coming in to coach. Basically a supercharged Jon Teske. Easy to imagine him developing into one of the league's premier 2-way centers.

EDIT: Relatedly, pointed out in S34 that Cedi was at his Serbian league game the other day:

I would want to get him with our second first round pick. I would be really happy with that. The question is how high do we have to come
up to get him? I've seen him mocked as high as 18. We would have to package that 26 with something else to get into the 14-17 range. Is that doable?
I don't see us targeting him in any way with our first pick.

 

[Nathan S]

I would want to get him with our second first round pick. I would be really happy with that. The question is how high do we have to come
up to get him? I've seen him mocked as high as 18. We would have to package that 26 with something else to get into the 14-17 range. Is that doable?
I don't see us targeting him in any way with our first pick.

I think it's reasonable to think that he could be had in the teens somewhere. But it also wouldn't be a huge surprise to see him picked higher. We've seen Kanter, Porzingis, Bender, Valanciunas, and Vesely all go top-6 in recent years. Several Euro bigs who were drafted lower ended up being huge steals (Jokic, Nurkic, Capela, Gobert). And Bitadze arguably has a more impressive resume than any of them. In a draft without any marquee talent outside of the top-3, some team may take a swing in the 4-10 range.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I would want to get him with our second first round pick. I would be really happy with that. The question is how high do we have to come
up to get him? I've seen him mocked as high as 18. We would have to package that 26 with something else to get into the 14-17 range. Is that doable?
I don't see us targeting him in any way with our first pick.

I think there's almost no way we don't trade JR for something prior to the draft. Could be a future pick, but a decent shot that we either acquire another 1st, or package it with thr Houston first to move up. Won't know for awhile, though.

 

[Cavatt]

I think it's reasonable to think that he could be had in the teens somewhere. But it also wouldn't be a huge surprise to see him picked higher. We've seen Kanter, Porzingis, Bender, Valanciunas, and Vesely all go top-6 in recent years. Several Euro bigs who were drafted lower ended up being huge steals (Jokic, Nurkic, Capela, Gobert). And Bitadze arguably has a more impressive resume than any of them. In a draft without any marquee talent outside of the top-3, some team may take a swing in the 4-10 range.

Do you take him if we land at 6 or even 5 or even 4?

 

[Nathan S]

Do you take him if we land at 6 or even 5 or even 4?

I think he's one in a handful of players who would make sense there, yeah. Cavs need a defensive presence in the middle, and the other top center prospects (Hayes, Bol) are massively risky in ways that Bitadze isn't.

 

[MirORich]

Spamming this in all the draft threads but the new lottery system is just crazy. First of all, the lotto is now for the the first 4 slots, not just the first 3. And the odds are just so much more evened out now.

Each of the Knicks, Cavs, and Suns have an almost 50% chance of not even picking the in the top 4!

Now obviously the odds of two or all three of them falling out of the top4 are low but it’s possible and definitely possible, almost likely, for one or two of them.

There is a 72% chance that we will not be in position to select one of Zion or Ja. A 60% chance we will not be in position to draft Zion, Ja, OR Barrett. LOL. But our odds would be no better for those outcomes even if we would have had the worst record.

A team like Dallas, all the way down in the 9th slot, still has a 26.3% chance of moving into the top4.

If we go up to #1 tomorrow, consider it a near miracle. Stay at 2, a huge upset. Drop down one spot to 3, overcoming the odds. If we go to 4-5, just know that there was not a single thing we could have done last season to give ourselves any better odds.

Play around with this simulator for the next 23 hours or so if you want some fun(or terror): http://www.tankathon.com/

 

[Ozone]

Cavs have better odds along with PHO and NY of picking #1,#2 or #3 than any other team, but yeah even those odds are not great.
the odds are better for each top 3 team to pick outside of the top 3 at 4 5 and 6 respectively.
The balance really benefits teams in the top 3 still just more evenly and as a result opens the door for the teams after that to at least have more than a couple lottery balls like in past drafts. Charlotte for example still has a 86% odds of staying at 12.

 

[Phil Mixtape]

Why did i just see that turncoat Dave Mcmenamin talking about The Cavs from a bar in C Town? Stick with the Lakers bruh.

 

[macbdog]

Spamming this in all the draft threads but the new lottery system is just crazy. First of all, the lotto is now for the the first 4 slots, not just the first 3. And the odds are just so much more evened out now.

Each of the Knicks, Cavs, and Suns have an almost 50% chance of not even picking the in the top 4!

Now obviously the odds of two or all three of them falling out of the top4 are low but it’s possible and definitely possible, almost likely, for one or two of them.

There is a 72% chance that we will not be in position to select one of Zion or Ja. A 60% chance we will not be in position to draft Zion, Ja, OR Barrett. LOL. But our odds would be no better for those outcomes even if we would have had the worst record.

A team like Dallas, all the way down in the 9th slot, still has a 26.3% chance of moving into the top4.

If we go up to #1 tomorrow, consider it a near miracle. Stay at 2, a huge upset. Drop down one spot to 3, overcoming the odds. If we go to 4-5, just know that there was not a single thing we could have done last season to give ourselves any better odds.

Play around with this simulator for the next 23 hours or so if you want some fun(or terror): http://www.tankathon.com/

Very first spin: 1. Cavs 2. Dallas 3. Washington. This is exactly how i expect the draft to go.

 

[Zman80000]

And the ping pong ball god laughs in our general direction.