2023-24 Season | Game #17 | Raptors @ Cavs | Nov. 26, 2023 | 7:30 p.m.

[buzzdog]

I love this place and I probably also contribute in some of the ways he's talking about at time( it think) but to be fair to him what he's describing is essentially the tone of pretty much every thread in all Cavs related parts of this forum. Agree fully the the game threads have always, will always, and probably should always be that loose kind of wild wild west feel.

On one hand, welcome to being in an online fandom and to me it's still the absolute best Cavs community in existence for multiple decades now, but on the other, he's not wrong and he's not some newcomer adjusting to the overall vibe of the place

Thanks for the validation.

I just watched the game and didn't post much, mostly read the thread. If I didn't know the score and had to guess based on comments I would guess we were getting blown out when in reality it was a tight game. Nothing but comments badmouthing our players running about 10 to 1, if there were even that many positive or neutral comments. Meanwhile I'm wondering what people are watching while I'm rooting for and enjoying the really good plays and positive things I was seeing. Sure it's far from perfect but no NBA opponent is an easy out and I just see our guys trying to figure out a way to win.

Then after we actually win the game there's maybe a page and a half of positive comments.

Reading constant bashing of the guys I'm rooting for is not my idea of fun or entertainment. I don't understand how some people get enjoyment out of how they think about the players and coach, constantly dwelling on completely negative bullshit. Being that way would drive me nuts, and reading it all the time bugs me. I stayed completely out of game threads for probably a few years. I think I'm going to go back to that, or at least try.

 

[Dr No]

I agree with the bolded, for the most part. We look like pretty much every other NBA team. Last year, I thought our effort was exceptional, and we usually out-hustled other teams.

I see what you are seeing. We are no longer a super young team hoping to make the playoffs through out hustling the opponent. After last year, and with the addition of two vets who have made the playoffs numerous times, we are playing like a team that believes they are good enough to expect a playoff appearance without killing themselves over 82 games. This is how most experienced playoff level teams go about it. We will see if we are good enough to play this way.

 

[Kouki]

I see what you are seeing. We are no longer a super young team hoping to make the playoffs through out hustling the opponent. After last year, and with the addition of two vets who have made the playoffs numerous times, we are playing like a team that believes they are good enough to expect a playoff appearance without killing themselves over 82 games. This is how most experienced playoff level teams go about it. We will see if we are good enough to play this way.

If that is the reason for lackluster play, that would really kinda piss me off.

You don't get to coast in the regular season until you've proven that you can actually function as a team.

Last year we got our teeth knocked out because we didn't know how to function offensively. We still don't know how to, and we have a pretty different rotation.

Not saying they all need to be be busting 110% ass 120% of the time...it would be different if we were seeing a consistent offense, but we are not...

 

[Dr No]

If that is the reason for lackluster play, that would really kinda piss me off.

You don't get to coast in the regular season until you've proven that you can actually function as a team.

Last year we got our teeth knocked out because we didn't know how to function offensively. We still don't know how to, and we have a pretty different rotation.

Not saying they all need to be be busting 110% ass 120% of the time...it would be different if we were seeing a consistent offense, but we are not...

What I think I’m seeing is more on the defensive side.

 

[Dr. Claw]

The game, in a nutshell:

3 of those 6:

- a FT due to a technical assessed on Toronto
- an intentional foul on Mitchell near the end of the game

look at how much the Cavs scored in the paint (they took away a JA "And 1") and then go back and look at this.
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