2023 College Football Season/Playoff (off the field)

[I'mWithDan]

Is OSU going to snag someone late here........am I reading this correctly?

They have 1 single defensive lineman committed? Mensah?

What happened there? I know they had some de-commits but the numbers still seemed thin.

Front 7 commits on both sides.....am I adding these right?

Michigan (21):

Defensive Line: (8)
Linebacker: (6)
Offensive Line: (5)
Tight End: (2)

Ohio State (9):

Defensive Line: (1)
Linebacker: (2)
Offensive Line: (4)
Tight End: (2)

That is a pretty crazy disparity......although Ohio State could try to grab a few guys in the later signing period.

Edit: this pushed to 21 with the commits of Lugard and Barham from the portal. Damn. Big day for UM on defense here. Which I'm sure makes you guys all happy.

 

[Ohio]

 

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[SanduskyCav]

Michigan gets notice of alleged football violations

The Michigan Wolverines football program has received the NCAA's notice of allegations over alleged violations during the COVID-19 recruiting dead period, university officials told ESPN.

www.espn.com

My favorite part of the article is from the Vice president of hearing operations:

“The Michigan infractions case is related to impermissible on and off-campus recruiting during the COVID-19 dead period and impermissible coaching activities -- not a cheeseburger,"

 

[lukecfg]

Is OSU going to snag someone late here........am I reading this correctly?

They have 1 single defensive lineman committed? Mensah?

What happened there? I know they had some de-commits but the numbers still seemed thin.

Front 7 commits on both sides.....am I adding these right?

Michigan (21):

Defensive Line: (8)
Linebacker: (6)
Offensive Line: (5)
Tight End: (2)

Ohio State (9):

Defensive Line: (1)
Linebacker: (2)
Offensive Line: (4)
Tight End: (2)

That is a pretty crazy disparity......although Ohio State could try to grab a few guys in the later signing period.

Edit: this pushed to 21 with the commits of Lugard and Barham from the portal. Damn. Big day for UM on defense here. Which I'm sure makes you guys all happy.

Meh, we lost a 5* DT which hurts, but kept a 5* DE. Ohio State out recruits Michigan every year in terms of raw talent. This class just added five 247 composite 5-star recruits.

Michigan has done a better job of identifying players that fit their system and developing those players the past couple years than OSU has... continuously cheating your ass off hasn't hurt either.

 

[I'mWithDan]

It’s wholly laughable how much the NCAA hates Harbaugh. Next level hate.

They are trying to levy a level I violation for a “ I do not recall a $12 transaction”.

There was also the info that leaked that the NCAA asked Michigan to suspend Harbaugh for 6 games over burger gate. 6!

Hopefully the NCAA doesn’t exist in 12 months.

 

[Ohio]

It’s wholly laughable how much the NCAA hates Harbaugh. Next level hate.

They are trying to levy a level I violation for a “ I do not recall a $12 transaction”.

There was also the info that leaked that the NCAA asked Michigan to suspend Harbaugh for 6 games over burger gate. 6!

Hopefully the NCAA doesn’t exist in 12 months.

Didn't the NCAA already formally dispute the BurgerGate conspiracy?

 

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[I'mWithDan]

Didn't the NCAA already formally dispute the BurgerGate conspiracy?

It states the level 1 was for misleading info…..aka saying he didn’t know.

The thing they were investigating was impermissible contact during Covid and it was said to have been over Harbaugh taking a recruit out to lunch.

It’s hard for me to take stuff like this seriously, when they are trying to levy level 1 punishments over jaywalking investigations. This stuff ( I.e. of this nature) is laughable. It is a waste of everyone’s times. The sign stealing stuff, sure. The NCAA policing non contact to this degree is just a result of Harbaugh pissing them off IMO.

 

[lukecfg]

It probably doesn't help Harbaugh's cause that he's a gigantic fucking asshole, and is widely reputed as such.

The NCAA is too incompetent and weak at this point to levy any real punishment though, so he'll probably get away with whatever he did.

Edited to add - the NCAA's time and the CFB writ large would be better served by creating rules around NIL than investigating whatever this is...

 

[Ohio]

It states the level 1 was for misleading info…..aka saying he didn’t know.

The thing they were investigating was impermissible contact during Covid and it was said to have been over Harbaugh taking a recruit out to lunch.

It’s hard for me to take stuff like this seriously, when they are trying to levy level 1 punishments over jaywalking investigations. This stuff ( I.e. of this nature) is laughable. It is a waste of everyone’s times. The sign stealing stuff, sure. The NCAA policing non contact to this degree is just a result of Harbaugh pissing them off IMO.

“The Michigan infractions case is related to impermissible on and off-campus recruiting during the COVID-19 dead period and impermissible coaching activities -- not a cheeseburger,"

This is all that has been said, officially. They made a point to dispute the BurgerGate rumor that some Michigan media member made up.

COVID was a different time - in-person recruiting violations during that period should be weight differently, truthfully.

But yes, Harbaugh being a douche and spitting in their face didn't help his cause. He dug his own grave, here.

The NCAA is too incompetent and weak at this point to levy any real punishment though, so he'll probably get away with whatever he did.

This notion keeps getting repeated time and time again - but I think these people are snorting copium at this point. Harbaugh is going to be facing two Level 1 violations - the NCAA is not going to these lengths just to slap Michigan on the wrist with a few scholarship reductions.

At a bare minimum, Harbaugh will not be coaching Michigan next season.

 

[lukecfg]

Harbaugh is going to be facing two Level 1 violations - the NCAA is not going to these lengths just to slap Michigan on the wrist with a few scholarship reductions.

You've got my 100% support anytime you want to apply for NCAA president . The hero we deserve.

 

[I'mWithDan]

This notion keeps getting repeated time and time again - but I think these people are snorting copium at this point. Harbaugh is going to be facing two Level 1 violations - the NCAA is not going to these lengths just to slap Michigan on the wrist with a few scholarship reductions.

This won’t resolve for years. So I don’t think it is copium. It’s more likely the NCAA doesn’t exist for football, than Michigan facing any real consequence on this one. Resolution will take forever. No program is just accepting a Level 1 on something this stupid.

The only thing this signals is the NCAA trying to put the full court press on Harbaugh being ousted. We’ll see if they get what they want……at this point, it seems like him leaving for the NFL is their best bet.

 

[Ohio]

This won’t resolve for years. So I don’t think it is copium. It’s more likely the NCAA doesn’t exist for football, than Michigan facing any real consequence on this one. Resolution will take forever. No program is just accepting a Level 1 on something this stupid.

The only thing this signals is the NCAA trying to put the full court press on Harbaugh being ousted. We’ll see if they get what they want……at this point, it seems like him leaving for the NFL is their best bet.

How do you figure?

 

[I'mWithDan]

How do you figure?

90+60 just in standard procedure. So that puts us at the end of May. Then there will be hearings and appeals, as there's no way Michigan is agreeing this rises to Level 1. I think best case is a year from now.....more realistically, something like 18 months from today. If Michigan (surprisingly) just accepts the levied infraction, obviously sooner......but I'm sure the NCAA is going to ask for something they deem to be unacceptable......like that Harbaugh missing 3 games for this wasn't enough.