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2024 Season | Series #1 | Guardians @ A's | March 28-31, 2024
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Just be better dude. You are smart enough with regards to this game to not have to resort to your post to make your points. Why it’s embarrassing.
You like the other guy more, and that’s cool. No one has a problem with that. They wear a Cleveland uniform and you should root for them to succeed.
But be better. You are better than that and I know it.
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Looked like a safety squeeze based on the positioning of defensive players and Bo’s secondary lead considering he’s on 3rd with no outs.
I’m sure it’ll be clarified what it was, but it looked like a clear as day safety squeeze, which in that case the onus falls more on the base runner to be careful and see the bunt down or get back to the bag as quick as possible.
But the personnel running the play certainly is questionable if that’s the case, even with Bo an above average runner as a C.
Vogt just confirmed they called a safety squeeze, so I owe Arias an apology, as it falls squarely on coaching (and Bo) for putting him in that situation.
That's on Vogt. The decision to run out Barlow again (and keep him in after first hit) too. I hope that gets better, because we'll play lots of close games going forward.
That's on Vogt. The decision to run out Barlow again (and keep him in after first hit) too. I hope that gets better, because we'll play lots of close games going forward.
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With as tight as the payroll is, it really is stunning to see them shell out money for random scrubs like Straw and Barlow. Pretty mind blowing
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With the knowledge that it was a safety squeeze, I'd have probably pinch hit Arias.
The best guy for it would have been Hedges, but that probably would have been too on the nose obvious what was coming.
All things considered though, I'd trust Freeman or Rocchio to handle getting a bunt in play more than Arias in that spot.
The best guy for it would have been Hedges, but that probably would have been too on the nose obvious what was coming.
All things considered though, I'd trust Freeman or Rocchio to handle getting a bunt in play more than Arias in that spot.
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I also don't think Barlow pitched THAT poorly in the 9th.
He got pretty badly squeezed on what should have been strike 2 to the first batter and then gave up 64.8 MPH and 82.7 MPH EV singles. Langeliers chased an 0-2 curveball that was out of the strike zone and came up with a fluke infield single. Butler also hit an 0-2 curveball that was nicely located at the bottom of the zone. Sometimes you just get unlucky.
I also get that Vogt's options were quite limited (Herrin/Gaddis already used, Smith/Beebe likely unavailable after throwing 2 IP each yesterday, not really a spot you want to use Clase with extra innings on deck), but don't know if going to Morgan with his near 70% career flyball percentage is the best move with the bases loaded and no one out.
In a perfect world, I'd have probably gone with Sandlin and hoped he could have induced a groundball. But Morgan was already warm and Sandlin wasn't, so I get it.
He got pretty badly squeezed on what should have been strike 2 to the first batter and then gave up 64.8 MPH and 82.7 MPH EV singles. Langeliers chased an 0-2 curveball that was out of the strike zone and came up with a fluke infield single. Butler also hit an 0-2 curveball that was nicely located at the bottom of the zone. Sometimes you just get unlucky.
I also get that Vogt's options were quite limited (Herrin/Gaddis already used, Smith/Beebe likely unavailable after throwing 2 IP each yesterday, not really a spot you want to use Clase with extra innings on deck), but don't know if going to Morgan with his near 70% career flyball percentage is the best move with the bases loaded and no one out.
In a perfect world, I'd have probably gone with Sandlin and hoped he could have induced a groundball. But Morgan was already warm and Sandlin wasn't, so I get it.
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The right move, IMO, is swing away there.
Run the safety squeeze with your best bat to ball guy who is on deck with 1 out if the run doesn’t come home with 0 outs swinging away and you want to go that route.
But they aren’t turning 2 with the infield positioned the way it was unless it’s pulled to 3rd on the ground hard right at them.
20 IQ move running that safety squeeze in that situation with who’s up, who’s on 3rd and whose on deck. Young manager, young bench coach. They’ll learn from it.
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Oh no argument from me there. I am pretty anti bunt in almost every scenario including this one.
I'm just saying if they were locked in to trying to run a squeeze, I'd have tried it with somebody else.
Was just typing exactly that as you posted on availability .... The issue with Morgan too is that if you use him in the 9th, then score (or not) to bring in Clase, who is left in the pen afterwards? Sandlin has pitched 2 of 3 games, so technically available. But, without a Stephan or Hentges, there was no one to really trust for a pressure situation. Morgan and Sandlin are your 6th/7th pen arms with or without injury for a reason.... They are average but have a use in the pen. Just not in this situation.
I just don't get the safety squeeze unless they brought in Rocchio. You had no lefties on the bench to bring in. Take your chance on Arias lifting it to the OF... You got to go with your batter's strength, then try to beat a drawn in infield.
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while I cannot say this with any form of evidence to support it.. Arias was put in a position by his manager to put a bunt down.. Rule # 1 when it comes to bunting.. is bunt a strike.. That ball was not a strike.. It is my opinion that Vogt called the play because he had confidence and or knew Arias could get the bunt down.. It didn't happen.. Naylor got nailed.. and the Guardians found their first way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...
FWIW.. I still don't know what Naylor was doing... he shouldn't advance from his secondary lead off third base until the ball and bat make contact and he knows it's not a pop up..
They wanted to be bold and it was just the most stupid possible call to make. Yeah, that loss is on them. They're rookies too. They wanted to show off and it backfired. Should be a good ego check for them.
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I mean at the end of the day every single player on the team should be able to lay down a bunt if they're called upon to do it. This is the Major Leagues, ya know?
Fun fact that I just looked up... Arias has more career sacrifice bunts (7, 10 if you include winter ball) than Freeman (5) and Rocchio (6) do.