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#52 DeShone Kizer

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ESPN's analysts are garbage, they are designed to cater to the most casual of fans. You're better of reading posts on here than listening to their analysts.
 
She knew, yeah. Complete pig. Polished me, then she went to the living-room pull-out bed with PD. One night.
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I was watching ESPN/NFL analysts on Kizer when he was drafting, the situation with the Browns and such.

The overall gist of their criticisms were
-He should have stayed in school
-He needs to be on the bench for a year.
-The Browns are a horrible situation for him because there's no veteran QB;s in the locker room akin to Kansas City
-Athletic, hell of an arm. Descision making needs work. Takes too many sacks. Needs reps. reps. reps.

I was wondering though. Have things changed now because Osweiler is that bad or has Kizer proven to be ahead of the curve versus where everyone thought he would be.
 
I was watching ESPN/NFL analysts on Kizer when he was drafting, the situation with the Browns and such.

The overall gist of their criticisms were
-He should have stayed in school
-He needs to be on the bench for a year.
-The Browns are a horrible situation for him because there's no veteran QB;s in the locker room akin to Kansas City
-Athletic, hell of an arm. Descision making needs work. Takes too many sacks. Needs reps. reps. reps.

I was wondering though. Have things changed now because Osweiler is that bad or has Kizer proven to be ahead of the curve versus where everyone thought he would be.
Both?
 
I was watching ESPN/NFL analysts on Kizer when he was drafting, the situation with the Browns and such.

The overall gist of their criticisms were
-He should have stayed in school
-He needs to be on the bench for a year.
-The Browns are a horrible situation for him because there's no veteran QB;s in the locker room akin to Kansas City
-Athletic, hell of an arm. Descision making needs work. Takes too many sacks. Needs reps. reps. reps.

I was wondering though. Have things changed now because Osweiler is that bad or has Kizer proven to be ahead of the curve versus where everyone thought he would be.

Kizer is taking well to Jackson and trying to actually over come his weaknesses. Still got aways to go, but his ceiling is high and hard work can overcome his issues. He has progressed more than anyone could have guessed regardless if you liked him or not coming out of college.
 

Ps. I would know this since my posts almost have in the past!

Either way it is good to see Kizer showing he deserves a true chance to start. Now game 3 is his chance to actually get the starting job! It is his if he shows up and keeps doing what he did in the first two games.
 
Ps. I would know this since my posts almost have in the past!

Either way it is good to see Kizer showing he deserves a true chance to start. Now game 3 is his chance to actually get the starting job! It is his if he shows up and keeps doing what he did in the first two games.

Can you explain to me where Osweiler went wrong in his quest for a Pro-Bowl season while leading the Browns to the playoffs?
 
Kizer is taking well to Jackson and trying to actually over come his weaknesses. Still got aways to go, but his ceiling is high and hard work can overcome his issues. He has progressed more than anyone could have guessed regardless if you liked him or not coming out of college.

Yeah I'm not a Notre Dame fan at all, so my feelings of him were that he was going to be Bryan Clausen or Brady Qunn-esque.

Hindsight? I saw sparks of his talent versus Clemson, Texas...but he just never had that "Wow!" signature moment to me.

I didn't really want him coming out of college. I was more in the Watson or Trubisky camp. If we couldn't get those guys? Let's try for next year was my thoughts.
 
Can you explain to me where Osweiler went wrong in his quest for a Pro-Bowl season while leading the Browns to the playoffs?

I never did say he would have a pro bowl season, but I said he would have a solid year like 20 TDs to 12 INTs. (I said you would say he is terrible no matter what he did lol)

From the last preseason game, he was a lot better than Kizer actually running the team, but he seems to be having the issue Derek Anderson does at times which is he cannot make all the throws necessary for the offense. It doesn't matter if you can run the offense if you cannot make all the throws.

The offense will be limited with Kizer at the helm so I don't expect an amazing season, but at long as he doesn't do the boneheaded plays like he did in college, he should have a good season.
 

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