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have no idea where to put this. But thank God we are not stuck with a big man who will never reach his full potential. This is why everyone was so worried. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...phia-76ers-suffers-setback-foot&ex_cid=espnfb

You don't know that. It's not like he re-injured that foot. Being a little behind the schedule in his rehabilitation doesn't indicate he'll never reach his full potential. From what I can tell, he's very likely to become a stud, and possibly a TOP-3 center. I don't remember the last time this league has had a true center (AD is more of a PF) who can dominate both ends of the floor. Hakeem? The Admiral?
 
You don't know that. It's not like he re-injured that foot. Being a little behind the schedule in his rehabilitation doesn't indicate he'll never reach his full potential. From what I can tell, he's very likely to become a stud, and possibly a TOP-3 center. I don't remember the last time this league has had a true center (AD is more of a PF) who can dominate both ends of the floor. Hakeem? The Admiral?

I don't know...this guy was pretty decent. Maybe that's just me ;)

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Shaq was a beast offensively, but nowhere near Hakeem on the defensive end.

Not refuting that, but to not put Shaq in the same class as a guy that affected both ends of the floor is a bit of an insult if you ask me. I'm not saying he was as dominating as Hakeem or Robinson defensively, but he is most definitely the last dominant true center on both ends of the floor.

As an all-around player, Wilt, Russell, and Kareem might be the only three ahead of him, and it could even be argued that he should be higher on that list.
 
Not refuting that, but to not put Shaq in the same class as a guy that affected both ends of the floor is a bit of an insult if you ask me. I'm not saying he was as dominating as Hakeem or Robinson defensively, but he is most definitely the last dominant true center on both ends of the floor.

As an all-around player, Wilt, Russell, and Kareem might be the only three ahead of him, and it could even be argued that he should be higher on that list.

Sorry, you misunderstood me. I'm not saying Shaq wasn't a difference maker on both ends of the floor. I'm just saying he wasn't a dominant defensive force like Hakeem (which doesn't mean he wasn't a good defender).
 
Sorry, you misunderstood me. I'm not saying Shaq wasn't a difference maker on both ends of the floor. I'm just saying he wasn't a dominant defensive force like Hakeem (which doesn't mean he wasn't a good defender).
 
Mason Plumlee would be a good choice for the Cavs. He could backup Mozgov next year and grow into the starting center over time.

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/06/dangle-plumlee-higher.html
Nets Dangle Mason Plumlee, Seek Higher Pick
June 15 at 3:37pm CDT By Chuck Myron
The Nets are trying to trade Mason Plumlee to further their goal of landing a higher draft pick than the ones they have at 29th and 41st overall, tweets Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News, responding to a NetsDaily tweet that posed the question of whether the Nets should trade Plumlee. Brooklyn’s desire to keep Plumlee derailed a proposal that would have sent Deron Williams to Sacramento this past season, asmultiple reports made clear, but circumstances have changedfor the 25-year-old big man, as Bondy detailed in May.

Some executives from teams around the league figured that Brooklyn would come to this point after the trade-deadline acquisition of Thaddeus Young and the resurgence of centerBrook Lopez reduced Plumlee’s role, as Marc Stein and Mike Mazzeo reported a few weeks ago. Opposing teams had begun to inquire about Plumlee’s availability, as Stein added at the time. Lopez and Young aren’t necessarily locks to return, with Lopez possessing a player option and Young an early termination option, though Nets GM Billy King has made it clear that retaining both is a priority.

King said early last month that he explored trading everyone on the roster at some point last season, and in the same press conference, he said that the team will indeed try to trade up in the draft, as it’s often done in years past. King cautioned that he preferred not to deal away future draft assets to do so, leaving cash and current players as more likely trade bait.

Plumlee, whom the Nets mined with the 22nd overall pick two years ago, has two more years left on his rookie scale contract, which pays him slightly less than $1.416MM next season. That would make him a bargain with the kind of production he displayed in the first half of the season, when he averaged 10.3 points and 7.0 rebounds in 23.4 minutes per game coming off a summer with Team USA. Those numbers dropped to 6.0 PPG, 5.0 RPG and 17.5 MPG in the season’s second half.
 
Mason Plumlee would be a good choice for the Cavs. He could backup Mozgov next year and grow into the starting center over time.

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/06/dangle-plumlee-higher.html
Nets Dangle Mason Plumlee, Seek Higher Pick
June 15 at 3:37pm CDT By Chuck Myron
The Nets are trying to trade Mason Plumlee to further their goal of landing a higher draft pick than the ones they have at 29th and 41st overall, tweets Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News, responding to a NetsDaily tweet that posed the question of whether the Nets should trade Plumlee. Brooklyn’s desire to keep Plumlee derailed a proposal that would have sent Deron Williams to Sacramento this past season, asmultiple reports made clear, but circumstances have changedfor the 25-year-old big man, as Bondy detailed in May.

Some executives from teams around the league figured that Brooklyn would come to this point after the trade-deadline acquisition of Thaddeus Young and the resurgence of centerBrook Lopez reduced Plumlee’s role, as Marc Stein and Mike Mazzeo reported a few weeks ago. Opposing teams had begun to inquire about Plumlee’s availability, as Stein added at the time. Lopez and Young aren’t necessarily locks to return, with Lopez possessing a player option and Young an early termination option, though Nets GM Billy King has made it clear that retaining both is a priority.

King said early last month that he explored trading everyone on the roster at some point last season, and in the same press conference, he said that the team will indeed try to trade up in the draft, as it’s often done in years past. King cautioned that he preferred not to deal away future draft assets to do so, leaving cash and current players as more likely trade bait.

Plumlee, whom the Nets mined with the 22nd overall pick two years ago, has two more years left on his rookie scale contract, which pays him slightly less than $1.416MM next season. That would make him a bargain with the kind of production he displayed in the first half of the season, when he averaged 10.3 points and 7.0 rebounds in 23.4 minutes per game coming off a summer with Team USA. Those numbers dropped to 6.0 PPG, 5.0 RPG and 17.5 MPG in the season’s second half.

If he could be had for our 1st I'd make that deal. Then we could try and use the Haywood contract to find a PG and/or a backup for LeBron. Would definitely add some versatility and depth to the front court.
 
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If he could be had for our 1st I'd make that deal. Then we could try and use the Haywood contract to find a PG and/or a backup for LeBron. Would definitely add some versatility and depth to the front court.

There is 0% chance Nets give up Plumlee for 24.
 
Anybody heard from Emeka Okafor lately?

I know he missed a whole season, but we are talking about the 5th big here, and we don't have much money to offer. Probably an upgrade to Perkins by default.
 
Anybody heard from Emeka Okafor lately?

I know he missed a whole season, but we are talking about the 5th big here, and we don't have much money to offer. Probably an upgrade to Perkins by default.
Okafor and Greg Oden should probably be thought of similarly. You can't expect them to play anything remotely close to NBA ball at this point. At least until they prove otherwise.
 
While I wouldn't count on Okafor, he's proved infinitely more durable than Oden in his career.
 

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