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All-Star Weekend 2012

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I don't know about people criticizing Lebron for trying to pass out of a double team instead of trying an impossible shot. That's what he does. He passes to Damon Jones or Donyell, and let's them win the game if that's the better basketball play. Come on, he's been doing this for years, it's in his DNA. The oringal play being drawn up for Williams is perfectly fine, he was on fire as well and it was a good play. The last inbounds... don't know if it was drawn up for Wade, but when you have a team like that it does make sense to have someone like Lebron inbound the ball because he's tall enough to throw over people (no wonder Griffin was on him) and the inbounds pass is actually the most important decision on that play, so you want someone with good vision and basketball sense.

What i don't get, if we are getting down to splitting hairs, is why didn't he pass to Melo, who flashed to the top of the key and was wide open about four feet from Lebron. That would have been the right play, not this cross-court junk to Wade.
 
LeBron's biggest critic, Adrian Wojnarowski sums it up:

With the way Kobe Bryant mercilessly rode LeBron James in those final minutes, the way Kobe demanded to defend LeBron, the Miami Heat’s star had to shoot the ball. Dwyane Wade had broken Kobe’s nose in the third quarter, and now it was James’ turn to break his spirit in the fourth.

After all, this was an All-Star game, and ultimately the moment everyone had waited to witness. Game’s on the line, Bryant on James. There’s nowhere to go, nowhere to hide. Most of all, there’s nothing to lose. Take the shot, live with the consequences.

And truth be told, there are no consequences for failing on a long 3-pointer in the final seconds of an All-Star game, no consequences for driving past Bryant and missing a runner or missing a pull-up jumper. No one would’ve remembered a missed shot down two points to the Western Conference, but a long, wayward, get-this-ball-out-of-my-hands pass lingers longer.

Six seconds left, the ball swung back to James, and he threw a long crosscourt pass that the West’s Blake Griffin grabbed before it could ever reach Wade. The expressions on Bryant and Carmelo Anthony’s faces – one an opponent and an enemy, one a teammate and a close friend – were unmistakable: Are you kidding me, LeBron?

That’s what lingers over the NBA Finals for James. Every great player misses in great moments, every great player fails. But this sport wants to see James’ willingness to take the chance. James had been brilliant with 36 points and six 3-pointers. He’d brought the Eastern Conference back with a ferocious fourth quarter, and, well, everyone was still waiting on him to complete the comeback and blister Bryant, and James couldn’t get that ball out of his hands fast enough.

Here’s the thing, too: James knows Bryant goes to great lengths to belittle his unwillingness to rise up in the final moments of his biggest games. Bryant has five titles to James’ none, and had to bail James out in the fourth quarter of the gold-medal game of the 2008 Olympics in Beijing. Now Kobe was within inches, screaming into James’ face, “Shoot the [expletive] ball!” And, still, LeBron’s instincts weren’t to take ball and deliver it down Bryant’s throat. Score on Kobe, win the game and tell him to go to hell. Bryant would respect that.

So would Michael Jordan. Magic Johnson. Larry Bird. LeBron James is different. He’s probably better than all of them, but nothing in his DNA demanded that he go after Bryant there, that he destroy him in that moment.

“Yeah, he was telling me to shoot it,” James said. “I wish I could have that one back.”

James will get it back again, perhaps in the NBA Finals, perhaps with Oklahoma City’s Kevin Durant bearing down on him. And when Sunday night was over, when the West had beaten the East 152-149, it was clear James hadn’t let go of his mistake, that it lingered, and no one should come out of an All-Star game feeling that way. No one should do that to themselves.

Wade walked away with the clearest of minds: 24 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists and the blood of Kobe. “Kobe fouled me two times in a row,” Wade would say later, and that was his way of saying, ‘Hell yes, I fouled him hard.’ “I obviously didn’t want to draw no blood, but… “

It wasn’t that obvious, but that’s why Wade has the complete respect of his peers. Mess with him, and he’ll hurt you. Had Kobe gotten into Wade in the final moments like he did to James, Wade would’ve gone at him with a vengeance. Every star on the floor – Paul Pierce, Rajon Rondo, Deron Williams – would’ve been ruthless in pursuit of the rim, the shot, the chance to shut Bryant up.

Bryant was still incredulous when James marched out of a timeout with 1.1 seconds left and was the East player designated to pass to someone else to try and make a tying 3-pointer. Think Kobe would’ve let West coach Scott Brooks use him in that role? Or Durant? No way. James had six 3-pointers, tying Mark Price’s All-Star record, and wouldn’t he want a chance at redemption there?

With the East down three, coach Tom Thibodeau had James throw the pass to Wade in the corner. Wade missed the shot, the buzzer sounded, and he shrugged and laughed. He had no fear of failure there and knows he’ll shoot that again and again.

As soon as Bryant left the floor on Sunday night, his fractured nose had him woozy. There was a CT scan awaiting him and an appointment with an ear, nose and throat specialist in Los Angeles on Monday. “Kobe is a scorer,” Wade said. “He got 27. He’s Kobe Bryant. He scores the ball.”

That’s Wade’s way of saying: Just take a look at my 24 points, 10 rebounds, and 10 assists and LeBron’s 36-7-7. Brilliant all-around games, brilliant performances. No, this wasn’t the NBA Finals. This was the All-Star game, and no one would’ve remembered James missing that shot in the final seconds. Kobe misses them. Michael missed them.

Yet, the world was waiting for LeBron to make Kobe go silent, to stop the trash talk, the belittling, and end the game. So was Kobe. He was begging LeBron, but James wanted no part of that final shot the way he wanted no part of so many big shots in the Finals loss to the Dallas Mavericks.

Sooner or later, this will end for James. He’ll win his title and another and another, and he’ll finally understand he has to take that shot, that he can live with the consequences of the miss. Only thing LeBron James couldn’t do on Sunday was throw some crazy crosscourt pass while Kobe Bryant stood there in the final seconds pleading, begging – demanding – he come through him for the victory.

Take the shot, live with the consequences.

World’s still watching, still waiting.

Link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...w-wojnarowski_lebron_james_nba_allstar_022712
 
I really like the animosity brewing between the heat and the rest of the league. Hopefully whoever meets them in the finals can handle being clevelands favourite team in june.
 
Wade's chippy play gets people hurt. Rondo knows this well.
 
The limit people will go to in order to criticize lebron is ridiculous. If its a meaningless exhibition game then doesnt matter whether he passes or takes the last shot. If he had made the last shot, the narative would have changed to lebron aka mr. clutch. It still would have been he has to do it in the Finals.

What type of world are we living in when people are openly suggesting that LeBron should have went into the huddle of a meaningless game and demanded to take the last shot, going against what the coach wanted. :jerkoff:... yeah i can imagine the article adrian wojankoskwicx would have wrote after that.
 
The limit people will go to in order to criticize lebron is ridiculous. If its a meaningless exhibition game then doesnt matter whether he passes or takes the last shot. If he had made the last shot, the narative would have changed to lebron aka mr. clutch. It still would have been he has to do it in the Finals.

What type of world are we living in when people are openly suggesting that LeBron should have went into the huddle of a meaningless game and demanded to take the last shot, going against what the coach wanted. :jerkoff:... yeah i can imagine the article adrian wojankoskwicx would have wrote after that.

You're on the wrong board man, but here you go:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=20
 
The limit people will go to in order to criticize lebron is ridiculous. If its a meaningless exhibition game then doesnt matter whether he passes or takes the last shot. If he had made the last shot, the narative would have changed to lebron aka mr. clutch. It still would have been he has to do it in the Finals.

What type of world are we living in when people are openly suggesting that LeBron should have went into the huddle of a meaningless game and demanded to take the last shot, going against what the coach wanted. :jerkoff:... yeah i can imagine the article adrian wojankoskwicx would have wrote after that.

The fact that the game didn't matter actually makes me more disgusted. There is literally no pressure. Like I said before, people aren't going to harp on him for missing, so why not just take the damn shot? I just don't get it.
 
Kobe sure was critical of that pussy ass shit.

Edit: Kobe played lights out basketball while going through a RAPE trial. Lebron can't handle the pressure of a freaking basketball game. That drives Kobe crazy. This is why Kobe was yelling at that loser to stop being a pussy during the last seconds of the game.
 
The limit people will go to in order to criticize lebron is ridiculous. If its a meaningless exhibition game then doesnt matter whether he passes or takes the last shot. If he had made the last shot, the narative would have changed to lebron aka mr. clutch. It still would have been he has to do it in the Finals.

What type of world are we living in when people are openly suggesting that LeBron should have went into the huddle of a meaningless game and demanded to take the last shot, going against what the coach wanted. :jerkoff:... yeah i can imagine the article adrian wojankoskwicx would have wrote after that.

If it was "just a meaningless exhibition game", then why did he work so damn hard to get his team back in the game?

Let's not go to such lengths to stick up for him when that evidence is there that he very obviously wanted to win.
 
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The limit people will go to in order to criticize lebron is ridiculous. If its a meaningless exhibition game then doesnt matter whether he passes or takes the last shot. If he had made the last shot, the narative would have changed to lebron aka mr. clutch. It still would have been he has to do it in the Finals.

What type of world are we living in when people are openly suggesting that LeBron should have went into the huddle of a meaningless game and demanded to take the last shot, going against what the coach wanted. :jerkoff:... yeah i can imagine the article adrian wojankoskwicx would have wrote after that.

The limit people will go to in order to DEFEND LeBron is getting ridiculous.

It was the All Star game. Zero pressure, he had the hot hand, it was the perfect opportunity for LeBron to shut up some haters.

What did he do? The exact thing he's been criticized and mocked for doing.

Yes, if he would have made it I would have said he needs to do it in The Finals. But the fact that he had an opportunity to take a clutch shot with NO consequences and he bitched out is very telling. This almost feels like it's scripted at this point...every clutch opportunity this guy gets, it's the same result. It's fucking hilarious.

Stop kidding yourself. If LeBron would have gone into the huddle and demanded the ball for the last shot, Woj wouldn't have written an article at all because he would have no option but to praise LeBron. I would have given him more props if he would have taken and missed the shot over this. Hell, all the players in that huddle would have respected him more than they have grown to think of him at this point.

Quit trolling and trying to be a LeBron supporting hipster on a Cavs board. The guy is the most talented basketball player of ALL TIME and he refuses to win.
 
Also, it makes no sense for people to dismiss this game because it was blatantly obvious that LeBron wanted to win. If LeBron was trying that hard to come back, clearly the game meant something to him.

Yea but I just don't understand we as fans trying to draw some sort of conclusion that because Lebron didn't take the shot LeBron fails when the game is on the line. We know this already, and him taking and making the shot last night would have changed no one's mind, including mine, that he doesn't want the ball when the pressure is greatest.

So if him making the shot means nothing to me, why does him not taking the shot mean something to me?

EDIT: Here is my point. Let's imagine a few months from now the Heat are in the FInals and we are debating vigorously all of the ins and outs of the Finals. I'm sitting here typing that one of the their weaknesses is the fact that LBJ does not come up big when the game is on the line and shrinks in the biggest of moments. To counter this argument, a heat fan says "Well remember that shot he hit in the all-star game!!!" To which I would reply, "so, it was an all-star game."
 
Yea but I just don't understand we as fans trying to draw some sort of conclusion that because Lebron didn't take the shot LeBron fails when the game is on the line. We know this already, and him taking and making the shot last night would have changed no one's mind, including mine, that he doesn't want the ball when the pressure is greatest.

So if him making the shot means nothing to me, why does him not taking the shot mean something to me?

EDIT: Here is my point. Let's imagine a few months from now the Heat are in the FInals and we are debating vigorously all of the ins and outs of the Finals. I'm sitting here typing that one of the their weaknesses is the fact that LBJ does not come up big when the game is on the line and shrinks in the biggest of moments. To counter this argument, a heat fan says "Well remember that shot he hit in the all-star game!!!" To which I would reply, "so, it was an all-star game."

There is a difference between trying and failing, and refusing to try at all.

I don't really think it needs more of an explanation than that, to be honest.
 
There is a difference between trying and failing, and refusing to try at all.

I don't really think it needs more of an explanation than that, to be honest.

But he's refused to try multiple times before in his career. We already knew, prior to last night, that the man is scared of the last shot. Him being scared in an all-star game gives us what new information exactly that we didn't already have?
 

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