Andre Iguodala

[tedginnjr]

Let's start this off by saying that I, by no means, consider Iguodala to be a star. I consider him to be a young (26) athletic wing that would be a nice piece on a good team.

That said, I have a feeling, once the 76ers realize that they have an awful team, Iguodala will be on the block for cheap. He plays almost the same game as Evan Turner and I have a feeling they will want to open a starting position up for Turner and start building their franchise around him. Turner and Iggy do many of the same things and they are redundant on the same team, as has been highly publicized.

I am not for giving up major pieces to bring him in (ie: any of our draft picks, the TPE) but would certainly love to bring him in in a salary dump.

Something along the lines of

Jamison, Eyenga, one of Miami's 1sts for Iguodala.

Again, it's not going to turn our franchise around, but Iguodala is a young player entering his prime and a nice quasi-all-star player to build around along with Mo, Andy, and a potential breakout player in Hickson.

For those concerned about draft position, I think adding Iguodala would be worth dropping 4-5 spots in the draft. If we can bring in a guy of Iguodala's caliber without giving away any significant assets, I think we would be stupid to pass it up.

 

[*L-Train*]

i wouldn't even want him in a strict salary dump (by using our tpe)....he's exactly the kind of player who basically guarantees that your team won't be a contender any time soon as long he's the first or even the second option

 

[Kouki]

I've been saying this lately...

First of all I don't think he will necessarily lead us on the treadmill of mediocrity.

If we are a good team and we have a chance to get AI2 at the deadline, I would really think about it. I think he's a guy that could take us from the level of 6-8th seed to 3-5th seed. Guess it depends on your definition of treadmill of mediocrity. He might put us on a treadmill of pretty damn good but not true title contender. We'd still need a lot of help at the 5 to be a contender....unless Hollins REALLY surprises us...

He fits this team pretty well. Excellent defender, one of the best at running the floor, great team player, young...what more could you look for?

It's hard to say he would put us in the treadmill of mediocrity...he's been on crummy teams in his whole career. He's not a traditional superstar go-to-guy by any means, but he would be great if we try to go for that Pistons mold.

 

[tedginnjr]

i wouldn't even want him in a strict salary dump (by using our tpe)....he's exactly the kind of player who basically guarantees that your team won't be a contender any time soon as long he's the first or even the second option

In what way? Do you think he makes our team worse than it is now? Better? Who said he'd be a top two option? The point is we continue to build, not get him and settle.

Is Iguodala a good fit as the number one option on a team that has no outside shooting and doesn't play any defense? No.

Is he a good fit on a team that is committed to defense, can put two outstanding shooters around him to spread the floor (Mo and AP), and let him share the scoring load with others that are more than capable (Mo, JJ, Jamison)? I think so.

 

[Silky Smooth]

I think Andre gets a bad rep because of his past success with some bad talentless 6er teams. I think the fact that he was able to get those teams to be top 10 in the east and for 2 or 3 seasons(possibly more) into the playoffs is pretty darn good. If you want to compare careers you'd have to say Joe Johnson and Iguodala are the same. Obviously JJ is a better shooter but from leading their teams the only reason why Joe was able to lead Atlanta to a top 4 seed for the last 2 seasons is because that team just has more talent. If you put Joe on the Sixers and take Iguodala off I bet team success wise it would be the same.

I for one have always liked Iguodala and think he would be a very nice piece to add. He would fit very well considering this team was built around a guy who wasn't a great shooter and could pass the ball to guys who could shoot.

 

[CPK]

We've played one game; can we just see what we have before we start pushing trade ideas?

 

[MYoung23]

Iguodala really isn't that good. When the Sixers were a .500 team for a few years. Iguodala wasn't even the most important player on that team it was Andre Miller. When Miller left in free agency and the Sixers handed the reins to Iguodala he and the team bombed. He doesn't impact a game and with 4yrs left making 14M a year he should.

You avoid contracts like that like the plague.

 

[tedginnjr]

Iguodala really isn't that good. When the Sixers were a .500 team for a few years. Iguodala wasn't even the most important player on that team it was Andre Miller. When Miller left in free agency and the Sixers handed the reins to Iguodala he and the team bombed. He doesn't impact a game and with 4yrs left making 14M a year he should.

You avoid contracts like that like the plague.

1.) He is certainly a good player. His PER has hovered in the 18-19 range in the past 4 seasons, similar to guys like Joe Johnson and Vince Carter, and by my (untrained) eye, good for top five among starting SGs last year. That said, he's certainly not a number one option. Ideally he's a number 2-3.

2.) Not sure at what point he "bombed." His stats have been almost identical the last 4 seasons.

3.) His contract is awful, no way around it. Only way this move makes sense is if you assume you have an owner more than willing to spend.

 

[Nom]

1.) He is certainly a good player. His PER has hovered in the 18-19 range in the past 4 seasons, similar to guys like Joe Johnson and Vince Carter, and by my (untrained) eye, good for top five among starting SGs last year. That said, he's certainly not a number one option. Ideally he's a number 2-3.

2.) Not sure at what point he "bombed." His stats have been almost identical the last 4 seasons.

3.) His contract is awful, no way around it. Only way this move makes sense is if you assume you have an owner more than willing to spend.

The hard part is that no one knows what is going to happen with the CBA. If they come out of it with a hard cap this deal would be murder. If not, it could be genius.

 

[Kouki]

Iguodala really isn't that good. When the Sixers were a .500 team for a few years. Iguodala wasn't even the most important player on that team it was Andre Miller. When Miller left in free agency and the Sixers handed the reins to Iguodala he and the team bombed. He doesn't impact a game and with 4yrs left making 14M a year he should.

You avoid contracts like that like the plague.

He's obviously not a guy you can just give the ball to and expect to be great. He's not LeBron or Wade or Kobe, you can't lean on him to lead a team deep in the playoffs...if we got him we wouldn't be asking him to do that though. We play in an offense where the guards control the ball a lot of the time. I do agree of course that his contract is kinda nasty though.

 

[Ayatolla of Slamola]

Iguodala really isn't that good. When the Sixers were a .500 team for a few years. Iguodala wasn't even the most important player on that team it was Andre Miller. When Miller left in free agency and the Sixers handed the reins to Iguodala he and the team bombed. He doesn't impact a game and with 4yrs left making 14M a year he should.

You avoid contracts like that like the plague.

MYoung just opened my eyes with this statement. I have been on the Iggy train since he was at Arizona and I thought we were going to land him instead of Stryker. I would much rather we use 14 mil a year, over the next 4 years, on a player(s) with more upside or multiple role players.

 

[OhioSlayer]

I love this idea. Sure his contract sucks but to say he sucks is idiotic. He is an awesome piece to add to our young nucleus. I think he would thrive under Scott and running the floor. As someone said, of course you don't want him as the number 1. I firmly believe JJ is the number 1 option on this team. I think they are really pushing that. But if you have JJ down low, MO outside with Boobie and then throw Andre in the mix running? Are you kidding me? That would be a great start to contending IMO.

I also believe he has been shit on because of how bad his teams have been. Lest of not forget that who does he have? Brand? WOW. Miller he did have but Miller seems to not give a shit most nights. Put him on a hungry team and it could be lights out. I think he is exactly the type of player we need to take a chance on.

 

[Silky Smooth]

Like I said though, the Sixers had no talent with past teams. Miller did good because he was a good PG who probably thrived with Iguodala running the court. IDK. I just can't see Iguodala being that bad that he wouldn't make us a better team playing alongside Mo, JJ, Andy, Ramon, Boobie, AP and Moon.

 

[OhioSlayer]

Another thing is if you think Dan Gilbert wasn't afraid to spend the money before, don't you think he would be willing to spend even more to win that ring quicker then down south? Dan Gilbert doesn't give a shit how much money he has to spend. He will spend to win. Gilbert is the best thing to ever happen to Cleveland.

 

[bob2the2nd]

YES. PLEASE.

i have been saying it for the last couple of years AI2 is by no stretch a number 1 option but on a team full of number 3 options especially with the weak spot at the number 3 position he would fit in very well. i think he could basically be had for the exception and I think the sixers may even be willing to throw in a first round pick. Why do i say that because flat out the sixers would do anything to get rid of a contract like that. I would say sixers first in '12 and AI2 for the exception and we have a deal.

the reason i woudlnt do that has nothing to do with with AI2 as a whole but rather the fact that this current team is basically a bunch of has beens and never will bes. WE could be looking at one of the single most magical seasons of all time and bringing in anyone else or getting rid of anyone could really really fuck with that chemistry. everyone on this team knows how to win, and they have a chip on their shoulder and are willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done, and flat out that can make for a VERY dangerous team. bringing in someone could really put that in jeopardy.

that said if hte cavs could get a '12 first and AI2 for the exception and other random player i do it. its important to keep in mind that this team really has 2 major holes right now, the first is at the 3 spot and the 2nd is at the 5 spot. if the cavs could find a player or players to fill one of those and just being using the exception i seriously look at doing it.