Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

[AZ_]

What does this mean?

That its got to be so hard to thrive and develop within an organization who seems to be completely averse to development.

The way he's been handled, the team that surrounds him. It's patchwork at best, right now.

A coaching staff allergic to accountability or adjusting philosophy to put the ball in the hands of their best players. They seem unable to develop timing or chemistry within an offense that seems predicated on timing and chemistry.

Constantly out-schemed, especially in-game. No awareness for clock management or any sort of philosophy that goes against an NFL mindset that is aging.


And then we'll replace Jackson after this season, probably the rest of the staff too. Maybe they'll get lucky and attract the right candidate who can get the most out of players and develop them in tune with a front office that can get them the talent they want for their scheme.


But I'm done being hopeful.

/rant

 

[I'mWithDan]

I mentioned this previously but the tape is out there to flood the middle of the field and force the Browns to push the ball to the boundaries. SD started doing that and the results were miserable (for us).

We just don't have the horses on the outside to consistently win. Baker made a handful of really nice throws (early), that if we have even an above average outside receiver, we would have had 14 points on the board.

Baker deserves his share of the blame.....because he made some awful decisions but game complexion also changes if guys can make a few of the plays that were out there.

Generally a regrettable game all around. Probably won't be the last.

 

[The Voice]

That its got to be so hard to thrive and develop within an organization who seems to be completely averse to development.

The way he's been handled, the team that surrounds him. It's patchwork at best, right now.

A coaching staff allergic to accountability or adjusting philosophy to put the ball in the hands of their best players. They seem unable to develop timing or chemistry within an offense that seems predicated on timing and chemistry.

Constantly out-schemed, especially in-game. No awareness for clock management or any sort of philosophy that goes against an NFL mindset that is aging.


And then we'll replace Jackson after this season, probably the rest of the staff too. Maybe they'll get lucky and attract the right candidate who can get the most out of players and develop them in tune with a front office that can get them the talent they want for their scheme.


But I'm done being hopeful.

/rant

Listen here buddy boy, we are going to attract the top candidates because we are going to be picking inside the top 10 (where we take a top WR), get Patrick Peterson and have a solid young core.

 

[JDailey23]

As a heads up, beware of the color rush jerseys that retail for like $80-100. I ordered a Myles Garrett during preseason. The numbers and stripes are sublimated- somewhat hard to explain without seeing it in person, but essentially there is no texture to the numbers and everything is the same material. In any case, it looks like a garbage kid's halloween costume jersey and you would be better off with a knockoff. I returned it right away.

Out of curiosity. Was the Brown a dark brown, or like the old Browns uniforms. I ordered on off eBay and it’s the same brown color as the old school browns jerseys. It just looked like a old Browns jersey without white.
I was hoping for a darker brown color. It doesn’t look good at all IMO.
Think I’m going to send it back.

 

[Urban]

Out of curiosity. Was the Brown a dark brown, or like the old Browns uniforms. I ordered on off eBay and it’s the same brown color as the old school browns jerseys. It just looked like a old Browns jersey without white.
I was hoping for a darker brown color. It doesn’t look good at all IMO.
Think I’m going to send it back.

PMd

 

[Visitor]

We just don't have the horses on the outside to consistently win. Baker made a handful of really nice throws (early), that if we have even an above average outside receiver, we would have had 14 points on the board.

Unfortunately these kinds of misses change the complexion of the game completely. With a catch by Calloway the game is 7-7 I believe. Assume SD still scores so 14-7. For fun, say that false start gets called and they end up with a FG. So 17-10 or 17-13 going into half. Much different game and since Hue feels like we have to throw 90% of the time we are down two scores, maybe we call the 2nd half differently.

All revisionist history but the bottom line is that one or two big plays can change the entire trajectory of the game with this team.

 

[buzzdog]

The new "book" on Baker will be exactly what the Chargers did; try to keep him contained in the pocket while squeezing the pocket, try to keep him hemmed in, and have the D-linemen get their hands up to impede the throwing lanes. Then hold tight coverage through the initial breaks that receivers make and force them into longer patterns with more cuts, in order to try to take away the first quick read. The Chargers did this extremely well. They doubled Landry and forced the rookie wide receivers to beat us, forcing Baker into making tough decisions as the pocket squeezed on him.

Haley needs to start moving the pocket a little to counteract this, and he needs to keep a check-down option readily available on every passing play, and tell Baker to use the check-down more often to force defenses to defend it. The short to mid routes are always open as teams sell out to stop the deeper routes that Baker shows a preference for hitting. I think we need to perfect a better assortment of screen passes as well to counter the type of pressure the Chargers applied, force them to defend an few different options instead of just being able to rush all out.

 

[buzzdog]

Baker was far from being sharp with his location but there were too many catchable passes that went right through the hands of our receivers.

 

[Frank Stallone]

The "book" on Baker will also continue to work so long as they don't supply him with enough weapons.

I know people have said no to the idea of bringing in other WRs when Higgins will.be back, etc. I personally don't care how many guys they bring in. Whether it be a trade, a signing like Rishard or Dez. Get the kid some fucking people to throw to and open up Landry. You're going to torpedo him in his first fucking season.

I can't believe they traded Josh Gordon.

 

[CBBI]

View: https://twitter.com/BrownsFilmBDN/status/1052025128022892545

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

That its got to be so hard to thrive and develop within an organization who seems to be completely averse to development.

The way he's been handled, the team that surrounds him. It's patchwork at best, right now.

A coaching staff allergic to accountability or adjusting philosophy to put the ball in the hands of their best players. They seem unable to develop timing or chemistry within an offense that seems predicated on timing and chemistry.

Constantly out-schemed, especially in-game. No awareness for clock management or any sort of philosophy that goes against an NFL mindset that is aging.


And then we'll replace Jackson after this season, probably the rest of the staff too. Maybe they'll get lucky and attract the right candidate who can get the most out of players and develop them in tune with a front office that can get them the talent they want for their scheme.


But I'm done being hopeful.

/rant

The guy I've seen most connected with replacing Hue is Jim Schwartz. Now, I'm not a huge fan of Schwartz, but he did go to the Eagles and run a face eating defense for a few years and coached with the Ried tree. But it would, to me, be a waste of time. I think the Browns can do better.

With what I have seen, this job should be attractive. With boundless money, a good, young QB, some weapons....someone should want this job.

But then again, Haslam is still here so who knows.

BTW, Mayfield acted more like a coach in his post game than Hue did.

 

[AZ_]

The guy I've seen most connected with replacing Hue is Jim Schwartz. Now, I'm not a huge fan of Schwartz, but he did go to the Eagles and run a face eating defense for a few years and coached with the Ried tree. But it would, to me, be a waste of time. I think the Browns can do better.

With what I have seen, this job should be attractive. With boundless money, a good, young QB, some weapons....someone should want this job.

But then again, Haslam is still here so who knows.

BTW, Mayfield acted more like a coach in his post game than Hue did.

I don't hate it, if they're not able to secure the innovative offensive mind they truly need.

John DeFilippo, the conversation starts with him IMO.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

View: https://twitter.com/BrownsFilmBDN/status/1052025128022892545

It's great that he can fit that throw in, but to the point of @buzzdog Njoku is wide open underneath and probably gets at least another 10-15 yards if Baker hits him.

Love the balls to throw down field, but there's going to come a lot of times where this completely bites us in the dick if a throw sails on him. He's also going to lead his WR into some dicey situations if this continues to happen on the regular.

Not looking for him to be a check down Charlie, but that's a pretty obvious situation when you see him throwing into triple coverage. Hit the TE, get a 1st, and keep it moving.

 

[CBBI]

I don't hate it, if they're not able to secure the innovative offensive mind they truly need.

John DeFilippo, the conversation starts with him IMO.

DeFillippo is my No. 1 choice as well.

Schwartz is pretty meh for me. It would REALLY depend on who he could bring on as his offensive coordinator. His OC in Detroit was Scott Linehan who is awful.

 

[AZ_]

Jim Schwartz is another "good ole boys" hire. Really good defensive coordinator, gets results from that world.

But isn't a guy who excels in the aspect of being a head coach with regards to player motivation, situational football, etc.

Just a good coordinator who "earned a chance" based on his results as a DC, not because of his head coaching prowess.


Flip is a dude that has turned heads everywhere he's been, players respond to him. He understands situational football and how to exploit matchups offensively.


Those types of guys make better head coaches.