Bias In Media

[gourimoko]

You actually believe they aren't meaningful to the democratic party, but the alt-right is influential to the republican party?

When you say this, you imply you believe reverse...

Can you explain why you believe what you're saying?

 

[gourimoko]

I don't see an Antifa leader sitting on the National Security Council, or dictating immigration policy, so no.

They are, on occasion, useful idiots, but having a real seat the table? No.

But, yes, this is turning into a political debate so... TO THE BATCAVE!

Many people really do not understand just how centrist, or even center-right the majority of the Democratic Party and establishment truly is.... (see: the Clinton Administration, Clintonites, the DLC, and Third Way Democrats)

 

[TyGuy]

I don't see an Antifa leader sitting on the National Security Council, or dictating immigration policy, so no.

They are, on occasion, useful idiots, but having a real seat the table? No.

But, yes, this is turning into a political debate so... TO THE BATCAVE!

Antifa isn't the only example of ctrl-left. If you want to silence free speech because you don't like what they have to say? That is ctrl-left, and it's happening in major universities. If you're okay with violence to suppress views that disagree with your progressive agenda, that is ctrl-left, and it isn't just antifa.

If you smear your opposition and dishonestly represent their views because it differs from your liberal views, and you resort to calling them a bigot; that is ctrl-left or regressive left. Hello Cenk Uygur.

 

[Sebastian]

I like that Alex Jones uses the "Riddle of Steel" motif from Conan the Barbarian as his intro music.

 

[gourimoko]

Antifa isn't the only example of ctrl-left. If you want to silence free speech because you don't like what they have to say? That is ctrl-left, and it's happening in major universities.

Can you explain how this creates an entire class of political ideology, i.e. this "ctrl-left." I ask because both elements of the left and the right have a history of silencing free speech; so can you disaggregate and disentangle the notion of free speech rights and the opponents thereof sufficiently as to associate free speech opposition with elements largely of the left, historically and contemporaneously, and not of the right?

If you're okay with violence to suppress views that disagree with your progressive agenda, that is ctrl-left, and it isn't just antifa.

But you could say the same about fascist right-wingers if and when violence becomes an opportune way of advancing a right-wing agenda; and that's demonstrably true throughout history, is it not?

If you smear your opposition and dishonestly represent their views because it differs from your liberal views, and you resort to calling them a bigot; that is ctrl-left or regressive left.

Are you saying the nonsensical term "regressive left" is synonymous in meaning with your usage here of the term "Ctrl-Left?" So that, when I read you saying "Ctrl-Left," I should recall Dave Rubin and Sam Harris' use and definition of the term "Regressive Left?" And thus, any previous critique of this term and it's use would equally be applicable right?

That would also imply that the naming of the term "Ctrl-Left" is in fact a renaming of the mostly defunct and less used term "Regressive Left" in an effort to (as said above) draw some form of false equivalence between what Rubin and Harris would describe as "Social Justice Warriors" and the Alt-Right.

And it would also seem to entail the term being more of an epithet than a legitimate classification of ideological beliefs; just as the term "Regressive Left" is used and defined, as a means of pejoratively attacking a group rather than categorizing their ideology.

So, am I understanding you correctly here?

Hello Cenk Uygur.

You still haven't explained where you're going with this..

Just seems like you have a bone to pick with Cenk and you're not really explaining why.. You said the other day he was one of the most horrible human beings (in some sort or another) over "the past 2 years," but never explained why you think this is true.

 

[gourimoko]

@TyGuy

I'm curious as to your thoughts on my responses... Let's continue this conversation in the politics sub-forum where it belongs. I think @The Human Q-Tip will be making a Media Bias thread shortly, let's pick up there, shall we?

 

[Sebastian]

I feel like we should have an Alex Jones thread. It is amazing. There should be a recap everyday.

 

[Cavatt]

The difference between Cntrl left which isn't even a thing and Alt Right is that no one even believes that there is any representation of the Cntrl Left views in Congress, while Alt Right have the freedom caucus and their God Trump.

Far left people feel like they have 0 representation, and I would have to agree. Bernie is the closest thing you have and many of them think he isn't going far enough.

I think the fact that so many people don't realize democrats are middle of the road at best and slightly right at worst and Republicans have become far right is the best example of media bias there is.

The fact that we can't even have a discussion about Universal health care which is totally mainstream everywhere else in the world, including Mexico by the way, just proves that.

 

[WeinerSoBig]

Peace...

Welcome back, old friend!

 

[KI4MVP]

Welcome back, old friend!

you quoted a post from 2018. For a minute I thought Max was back

 

[WeinerSoBig]

you quoted a post from 2018. For a minute I thought Max was back

Yikes! Sorry about that! Not sure how I was confused to think that’s a recent post, but I do remember one of the mods saying he was back and posting under a different name.