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I'd like to once again re-iterate how silly it was for this team to "go all out" for a playoff appearance this year instead of assuring themselves a Top 5 pick in the greatest draft class since 2003.

Deng is an OK player and maybe a borderline All-Star at his best, but two months of him or lesser assets received in a sign and trade pales in comparison to a Parker, Wiggins, Embiid addition which can potentially transcend a franchise and lure a bigger free agent fish.

It's really poor direction, IMO.

This I think is an understated point.

The funny thing is when teams "go all out", it's usually for a Championship.

I've never heard of "going all out" and risking the future of the franchise to just make the playoffs. Don't get me wrong, playoff experience is important, but how much future will you risk to force it prematurely?

How "all out" did we even really go? Just far enough to put us out of contention for the top picks? It doesn't look like we'll even make the playoffs right now.It's not like we got Bynum AND Deng. We got one of them (and he's healing), we found a way to make Jarrett Jack a problem, we subtracted productivity with the Clark signing, we don't use our #1 pick on the floor, and we subtracted some what Gee brings to the team (one on one D, finishing, just like Jamario in 2009 vs Orlando, how MB doesn't see the void kills me). I'm not saying Gee is great, but some of what he does is great for this team and its chemistry because nobody else does it for us.

Anyway, back to going all out. It was half assed and couldn't have been more poorly timed.
 
Grant's a liability. We could be watching Valenciunas, Irving, Barnes and Oladipo/MCW. TT, Bennett and Waiters to a lesser degree, were all bad picks. Brown flat out can't coach. Memo to Gilbert: You need to rid yourself of Grant/Brown ASAP.

Damn, that Irving/MCW backcourt would coexist very well.











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Barnes can't hold Waiters jock. Acting like those players would have made much of a difference is lol bad.

He is a better fit though with the best player on the team Kyrie

Waiters isn't all that...

So Drummond, Oladipo wouldn't have made a difference?

Oladipo wouldn't have brought more to this team than Bennett? I don't care if Oladipo isn't that good, you take the best player available and Oladipo is better than Bennett.
 
Damn, that Irving/MCW backcourt would coexist very well.



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2 PG's can work. Look at the Suns with Bledsoe and Dragic. MWC and Irving would have been promising and even if worst came to worst we could trade MCW for assets.
 
How in the world anyone would want Barnes over Waiters right now is baffling. He's been awful this year.

Dion is very inconsistent but there are definitely games he carries this team which is reflected by his solid +/- numbers
 
He's a garbage time scorer. nothing more nothing less. a blown pick just like thompson and bennett.
 
He is a better fit though with the best player on the team Kyrie

Waiters isn't all that...

So Drummond, Oladipo wouldn't have made a difference?

Oladipo wouldn't have brought more to this team than Bennett? I don't care if Oladipo isn't that good, you take the best player available and Oladipo is better than Bennett.

Stop being so shortsighted. Yes, Oladipo is better today and that is the same thinking that made us pass on Drummond, because Waiters was better at the moment and Drummond was too big of a project. Stop contradicting yourself to better serve your agenda. If only we had a time machine to play your little revisionist game.....
 
He is a better fit though with the best player on the team Kyrie

Waiters isn't all that...

So Drummond, Oladipo wouldn't have made a difference?

Oladipo wouldn't have brought more to this team than Bennett? I don't care if Oladipo isn't that good, you take the best player available and Oladipo is better than Bennett.

Never have seen someone contradict themselves so much and so fast.
 
He's a garbage time scorer. nothing more nothing less. a blown pick just like thompson and bennett.
i dont think you watch the games :(
Thompson is in no way a blown pick
he came in raw and has improved so much its crazy
Who would you honesty want right now instead of bennett?
Yeah hasnt played great or good (ok hes played awful) but hes been hurt, he had a serous surgery and didnt do the right things to rehab.
Who would you rather have that went in the top 5 or 10?
 
Ingram putting it on everybody lol..


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Yo, Dan Gilbert:
The Washington Generals called. They want their team back.
But seriously, folks. ... How can anyone take the Cavaliers seriously?
They don’t take their games seriously. They don’t take their coach seriously. They don’t take their team seriously. They certainly don’t take their fans seriously, and they obviously don’t take their careers seriously.
Most of them, anyway. Anderson Varejao and Luol Deng have proven track records as being thoroughly professional basketball players playing agenda-free basketball.
The rest of them? That’s open to question after watching that embarrassing unconditional surrender that unfolded on national television in Madison Square Garden Thursday night. Final score: Knicks 117, Cavs ho-hum.
TNT’s studio analysts and game announcers spent most of the evening laughing at and ridiculing the Cavs for their astonishing disorganization and complete lack of interest in competing.
Playing on basketball’s biggest stage, in the world’s most famous arena, on national television — the Cavs mailed it in. Actually they didn’t mail it in, because mailing it in would take some effort, and the Cavs aren’t real big in the effort department.
Two games ago, their coach tried to publicly embarrass them into giving more effort by stating what has been obvious to anyone who has seen them play this season: “Our competitive spirit was non-existent.”
Those are fighting words, or should be, to any professional athlete with a scintilla of pride. But the docile Cavs responded to that insult by (yawn!) giving up 38 points in the first quarter Thursday night — most of those coming on uncontested 3-point shots and a conga line of uncontested layups and dunks.
It was like the Knicks were scrimmaging against their ballboys.
The NBA. Where payday happens. No matter what.
At the other end of the floor, the Cavs’ offense was what it usually is: five guys playing one-on-one. The Cavs have ceased being a team. They are a collection of independent contractors. I’m guessing none of them car-pool to work.
It’s hard to recall when, if ever, a Cleveland sports franchise has ever completely shut down competitively like this in the middle of a season. There is nothing going on with Cleveland’s professional basketball team. Nothing. The season is slipping away, and the team is dead in the water. Nobody seems to know why, nobody seems to know what to do, and, judging by how long it has lasted, nobody seems to care.
How bad is it? The Cavs would have to rally to be a trainwreck. And there is plenty of blame to go around:
The owner: Gilbert is Cleveland’s most popular professional sports owner, mostly because he behaves like a fan, making emotional, knee-jerk pronouncements, and he spends money freely, which all fans like in their owners.
Lately, however, Gilbert has gone underground. As his team’s season circles the drain, he has been strangely silent, perhaps left speechless by the growing realization that he’s headed for the lottery again in a season in which the playoffs were seen as an achievable goal.
As the owner of the team, the buck stops with Gilbert, and Uncle Buck has a lot of it soiling his doorstep, because he hired all of those responsible for this mess.
The general manager: The reclusive Chris Grant finally spoke last week — you wonder if he wasn’t ordered to do so by the owner — and while acknowledging that his collection of independent contractors probably isn’t going to win an ESPY for NBA Team of the Year, he offered little in the way of explanation for how it happened or any vision of how to make it stop.
Of all the architects of this sinkhole, Grant seems to be on the shakiest ground of all, starting with his complete whiff on the first overall pick in the draft, a calamitous air ball that will haunt the Cavs for years to come.
The coach: This just in: The Cavs’ record in Byron Scott’s last 46 games as coach: 16-30. The Cavs’ record in the first 46 games of Mike Brown Part II: 16-30. So the coaching change has had no effect whatsoever. Some would argue that Brown has lost the team. I would argue that he never had the team.
There is no evidence anywhere to suggest that from day one the players were buying what Brown was selling. Shame on both of them.
The point guard: There is more to being a franchise player than making TV commercials. “He has as much talent as anyone in the league playing that position,” said TNT analyst and former point guard Greg Anthony, “but he doesn’t make his team better.”
The rest of the players: It has never a good sign when the fans care more about winning than the players

lol @ "conga line"
 
i dont think you watch the games :(
Thompson is in no way a blown pick
he came in raw and has improved so much its crazy
Who would you honesty want right now instead of bennett?
Yeah hasnt played great or good (ok hes played awful) but hes been hurt, he had a serous surgery and didnt do the right things to rehab.
Who would you rather have that went in the top 5 or 10?

As mentioned previously I would have taken Irving/Valenciunas ( there's your pick/roll pick/pop game ), Harrison Barnes/Zeller, and lastly Oladipo/Karasev. My team would beat your existing team and would be ALOT more fun to watch. How many guys drafted top 4 decide they'll be better if they switch hands to shoot jumpers/free throws???? Only Grant can come up with picks like that. Bennett is a DISASTER. I'm not sure he knows his right from his left.
 
We seriously lack these type of athletes on this team.

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Ingram putting it on everybody lol..

Yo, Dan Gilbert:

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The point guard: There is more to being a franchise player than making TV commercials. “He has as much talent as anyone in the league playing that position,” said TNT analyst and former point guard Greg Anthony, “but he doesn’t make his team better.”
The rest of the players: It has never a good sign when the fans care more about winning than the players [/url]

lol @ "conga line"
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I really hope our player's, coaches and front office people are reading all of these articles that are bashing them. They are a laughing stock right now and everyone is taking a shot, these dudes need to man up, come together and kick some ass.
 
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