Cleveland Cavaliers Summer League 2019

[inliner311]

Right yeah, it was already announced that Blossomgame was not getting an offer and he was going to be a FA on July 1. So just seems odd that he's on the SL roster now and Deng Adel is nowhere to be found.

I wonder what amount his QO would be though. It might be cheaper to not give him the QO. Maybe they just want to make a decision on him later on vs allowing Blossomgame to pick up the QO and taking up a roster spot. It's not like Blossomgame played well enough that another team would be trying to pick him off.

I could see the team figuring Blossomgame is a backup plan if one of the undrafted rookies don't step up and they need someone who could slot in as a 2nd or 3rd string PF.

As for Adel, I think he just doesn't fit into the roster anymore. He was a SG/SF. With the guard depth we have and the need for more of a SF/PF, it would just be nicer just to give him a chance to find a spot with another team.

 

[Randolphkeys]

The biggest selling point of Summer League is for the non-NBA quality players to get their name out there for a big contract offer from a Euro squad. If a player can surprise, they might jump somebody in line for a two way contract with the NBA. Of course it's fun to project the draft picks, but oftentimes they are just learning... and it's ugly.

There's a long list of players who weren't considered NBA material who changed minds in Summer League. PJ Tucker, Kaleena Azubuike, Ime Udoka, and of course Delly were all former Cavaliers summer league invites with no guarantees. For me, watching those guys through the years was just as fun as catching the high draft picks cutting their teeth.

I have to admit, I enjoy recording a Cavs Summer League game and putting it on when I have some down time. Don't plan your day around a summer league game, but if you can fit a few in you will find a great depth of knowledge of those fringe NBA players.

 

[Cavatt]

The biggest selling point of Summer League is for the non-NBA quality players to get their name out there for a big contract offer from a Euro squad. If a player can surprise, they might jump somebody in line for a two way contract with the NBA. Of course it's fun to project the draft picks, but oftentimes they are just learning... and it's ugly.

There's a long list of players who weren't considered NBA material who changed minds in Summer League. PJ Tucker, Kaleena Azubuike, Ime Udoka, and of course Delly were all former Cavaliers summer league invites with no guarantees. For me, watching those guys through the years was just as fun as catching the high draft picks cutting their teeth.

I have to admit, I enjoy recording a Cavs Summer League game and putting it on when I have some down time. Don't plan your day around a summer league game, but if you can fit a few in you will find a great depth of knowledge of those fringe NBA players.

Summer league rules. Last year was great especially with Cedi Zizic and Collin dominating.

You fall in love with cruddy prospects and covet other teams second rounders that hit 3s

 

[cabs]

I keep reading that Blossomgame is a good defender yet every time I watched him I thought he was pretty lousy on that end of the court. I'm indifferent on whether we should bring him back, I cant see him ever being a starter but he is decent enough to play in the league as en end of rotation guy

 

[AllforOne]

I keep reading that Blossomgame is a good defender yet every time I watched him I thought he was pretty lousy on that end of the court. I'm indifferent on whether we should bring him back, I cant see him ever being a starter but he is decent enough to play in the league as en end of rotation guy

I wonder if Blossomgame really was a good defender, or if it was more a matter of "he's terrible on offense, but it looks like he's trying out there, so ... good defender! Yes, let's say that he's a good defender!" Almost as a way of justifying why he's in the league.

Because defense is so much harder to quantify than offense, it's easier to get away with false praise on that side of the ball. If I say "Jaron Blossomgame is good on offense," there are any number of easily-available statistics that prove me wrong. If I say "Jaron Blossomgame is a tough defender" ... it's much harder to disprove.

 

[1B4IGO]

The biggest selling point of Summer League is for the non-NBA quality players to get their name out there for a big contract offer from a Euro squad. If a player can surprise, they might jump somebody in line for a two way contract with the NBA. Of course it's fun to project the draft picks, but oftentimes they are just learning... and it's ugly.

There's a long list of players who weren't considered NBA material who changed minds in Summer League. PJ Tucker, Kaleena Azubuike, Ime Udoka, and of course Delly were all former Cavaliers summer league invites with no guarantees. For me, watching those guys through the years was just as fun as catching the high draft picks cutting their teeth.

I have to admit, I enjoy recording a Cavs Summer League game and putting it on when I have some down time. Don't plan your day around a summer league game, but if you can fit a few in you will find a great depth of knowledge of those fringe NBA players.

Wasn't the 2005 year when Lonnie Jones stood out, since Boozer opted out tricking Gund.

 

[Ozone]

I'm not sure why the idea of watching the newest Cavs players in their first action with the team strikes you as so odd, when you're posting on a Cavs message board.

LOL I just think it's funny how excited people get over it.
watching drafted players who just met trying to figure out eachother is one thing but
it's bad usually since the rest of the players are stat padding to try to make a roster, any roster ,
any amount of $ etc. and really gives the drafted players no good experience w/ each other at all.
all it's good for is getting some reps in and does nothing for me as a fan of the game of basketball
instead of those who are fans of basketball players

 

[dark2332]

LOL I just think it's funny how excited people get over it.
watching drafted players who just met trying to figure out eachother is one thing but
it's bad usually since the rest of the players are stat padding to try to make a roster, any roster ,
any amount of $ etc. and really gives the drafted players no good experience w/ each other at all.
all it's good for is getting some reps in and does nothing for me as a fan of the game of basketball
instead of those who are fans of basketball players

Having 3 1st round picks this year—along with having Beilein coaching in Utah—makes this year especially exciting.

I hadn’t watched Summer League since Blatt/Wiggins before last season with Cedi and Sexton.

It’s the future of our team on a rebuilding squad. If you don’t care about it, that’s perfectly fine, but that doesn’t make you special.

If you didn’t care about the Tribe, you wouldn’t go to the Tribe section of these boards. Thus, if you don’t care about Summer League, stay out of this thread.

 

[Ozone]

Ha...you want everyone to think you have no time for this when you've got your DVR set to record every game...

If I have time to do something besides the routine, watching reruns of summer league isn't one of them.
I do like the Jalen Hudson pick up, could be a valuable asset for the Cavs if he sticks.
I am somewhat interested to see if Garland will actually lace 'em up. If he does at all then I will watch a game and then decide on if the rest is worth bothering but without the lottery pick playing I just can't get excited about bad basketball.

 

[dark2332]

If I have time to do something besides the routine, watching reruns of summer league isn't one of them.
I do like the Jalen Hudson pick up, could be a valuable asset for the Cavs if he sticks.
I am somewhat interested to see if Garland will actually lace 'em up. If he does at all then I will watch a game and then decide on if the rest is worth bothering but without the lottery pick playing I just can't get excited about bad basketball.

This was much more constructive.

Of course, we want to see Garland (if he plays). That said, I think Porter Jr. and Windler can carry us offensively, and Porter Jr. may play a little bit of point.

Hudson is one to watch, as well as Amp Lawrence defensively. Cohen has some upside as a two-way guard (6’6, 6’10 wingspan), and it appears they like Zoosman.

Abdur-Rahkman played for Beilein at Michigan, so he’s familiar with the concepts.

Remember, we still have that 2nd two-way contract available along side Dean Wade. There will be some serious competition for it.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

so you are watching summer league? Why am I not surprised LOL I guess you can catch up on the scouting you didn't have time for and yes unless you are paid to watch you have to be pretty fucking bored if you are interested in this garbage

I'm fairly certain you have the most posts in this thread.

You spent multiple pages going on a rant about how the Cavs obviously drafted Garland just to trade him before he plays a game in a Cavs uniform.

You claiming that OTHER people don't have a life is hilariously absurd.

All of that without even touching on the fact that you're on a basketball message board claiming that watching basketball means people have no life--or that "lol you have no life bro!" is somehow constructive conversation.

Lurk more, post less. Try to be more constructive when you come to threads.

 

[1B4IGO]

Windler is a player that I want to see. If Garland plays even better. Also don't sleep on Beilein getting to coach even Summer League at this level. And good post Ozone.

 

[Lee]

This is the part of summer league that cracks me up. We talk about the invites endlessly but only players we drafted or on 2 way contracts really matter. Every other player is trying out for all 32 teams. How many of our own summer league players have we actually signed not under contract in the last decade? 2?

 

[Ozone]

I'm fairly certain you have the most posts in this thread.

You spent multiple pages going on a rant about how the Cavs obviously drafted Garland just to trade him before he plays a game in a Cavs uniform.

You claiming that OTHER people don't have a life is hilariously absurd.

All of that without even touching on the fact that you're on a basketball message board claiming that watching basketball means people have no life--or that "lol you have no life bro!" is somehow constructive conversation.

Lurk more, post less. Try to be more constructive when you come to threads.

why so sensitive? it was a joke that apparently you don't understand.
I think this will help: I was calling out people who are so obsessed with the players that
they forget it is a business , which btw is exactly why it is not and was not at all absurd to assume
they drafted Garland to flip him. Should they? I have no clue if they can get a better more seasoned
player that fits well or not, but wouldn't it be in their best interest to do so for an upgrade? Or maybe you are just of the opinion Garland is a lock to be Sextons replacement and he will be moved.
Could be Sexton is the one that gets moved but not before Garland gets his shot to skip summer league right?
Man you gotta see the business side to understand my thinking and check your fandom at the door.

 

[Out of the Rafters at the Q]

Looks like you didn't read the last line of my previous post. What a shame. This time I'll put it right up front:

Lurk more. Post less.

This way, you can perhaps learn the quality of post we expect on this forum, and it saves the established members the hassle of having to talk to you via PM, ban you, or dismantle your post line by line (I'm personally a fan of the last option).

why so sensitive? it was a joke that apparently you don't understand.

I brought up that it's laughable for you, of all people in this thread, to claim that anyone else "doesn't have a life." Yet you're taking offense to it. Funny that you're now the first person to go to the "You're sensitive/butthurt/triggered/can't take a joke" defense. For the record, when you feel like bringing up that argument again, just stop and walk away from your keyboard. Or go somewhere else--we don't need this here.

I think this will help: I was calling out people who are so obsessed with the players that
they forget it is a business

You came in here and said that anyone who watches Summer League doesn't have a life. That has absolutely nothing to do with people forgetting that basketball is a business. Stop trying to gaslight the board when you get called out for your shitty takes.

which btw is exactly why it is not and was not at all absurd to assume they drafted Garland to flip him

1. Anyone who watches summer league doesn't have a life
2. Everyone here is forgetting the NBA is a business and I'm just here to remind them that
3. The player the Cavs just drafted at #5 overall in the first year of a rebuild is obviously just a play to trade him before the season starts

These three lines of thought are in no way connected. Do you understand how stupid you sound when your arguments are disassembled line by line for the steaming dump they are? This is the last time I respond to #3. The idea that maybe the Cavs would be open to shopping one of Sexton or Garland is not absurd. The repeated statement as fact from you that the Cavs only drafted Garland in order to trade him before he even plays for the Cavs is absurd. The way you used the possibility of an injured player sitting out Summer League as fact to confirms that insane belief is absurd.

Should they? I have no clue if they can get a better more seasoned player that fits well or not, but wouldn't it be in their best interest to do so for an upgrade?

It's year one of a rebuild. We should not be looking for a "more seasoned" player.

Or maybe you are just of the opinion Garland is a lock to be Sextons replacement and he will be moved.

I don't have any opinions of them right now. They're both young, promising players. They might both be able to share a back court together. One might be valued as a trade asset. Right now, things like fit don't matter. The organization's only goal should be to accumulate the most valuable assets it can.

Could be Sexton is the one that gets moved but not before Garland gets his shot to skip summer league right?

I'm honestly not sure what you're saying here, but yes--it's entirely possible that in the next four years or so that Sexton gets traded. I don't know why you keep insinuating that an injured player missing some meaningless Summer League games indicates something nefarious going on behind the scenes.

Man you gotta see the business side to understand my thinking and check your fandom at the door.

Nobody can understand your line of thinking because it's illogical and does not follow a direct line. It has nothing to do with your defense that "THE NBA IS A BUSINESS!" nor can you dismiss it because "Man, everyone else is a dumb fan. I'm the only intelligent person here!"

I could care less about the way you "respect" others--I'm as irreverent as it gets at times. But others are bothered by it so you should take that into consideration at some point. But, more importantly, stop posting drivel on these boards--it's annoying. Before you hit submit on your next post, go back and re-read it. Make sure it makes sense. See if it flows like a well thought out argument, or if it more closely resembles the ranting lunacies of a mad man.