Conspiracy Theories / Wild Predictions

[Cratylus]

It goes beyond sugar. The evidence will mount that refined carbohydrates, which stick in your teeth, should rarely be eaten.

The bigger story here is that it will come to pass that these companies have been falsifying health claims of certain things like "whole grains" or "low fat," and calling these things healthy. The bottom line is that a slice of wheat bread spikes your insulin more than table sugar.

Fatness is a hormonal problem caused by fucking up the insulin-blood sugar response. We're essentially watching history unfold where we know the outcome. The next question is, who knew that outcome before and hid it to profit? Who had their palms greased along the way to keep the machine rolling?

You would love the documentary film called "Fat Head" by Tom Naughton.

 

[kosis]

Anyone believe what would be considered a "Conspiracy Theory" or some non-popular beliefset (Area 51, Flat Earth, etc.)? Or maybe any wild predictions / theories on things to come?

One I've been thinking of:

McGregor vs Mayweather

I feel like no one expects McGregor to win. I predict an upset. I think it's planned. If McGregor wins, they can use that as an inroad to legitimize UFC fighters against boxing greats and either adopt traditional boxing as a special class under the UFC flag or just straight merge rosters and you'll see a lot of new strikers racing to learn grappling skills.

Traditional Boxing feels like it's dead and this is the way, I predict, it dies.

You can all laugh at me later, I'm no Nostra..Nostradomus(?)...I don't claim to tell the future real good.

This is more implausible than flat earth, haha. All Mayweather cares about is the 0. He has all the money in the world. And boxing is far from dead. 0/10.

 

[natedagg]

Parents have been telling kids that sugar causes cavities since forever -- it's not like it's a secret. People also know that eating sugar can make you gain weight. Again, that's not a secret either.

Maybe people eat sugar despite that knowledge because they like the taste.

Hey old man, I wasn't saying people shouldn't eat sugar, nor was I suggesting we should save people from themselves.

My point is bigger than sugar. It's that we're teaching people to eat horribly, from the GROUND up, starting with probably 2nd grade. Where's this nonsense coming from? Why are we so fat?

Fat makes you fat so eat a low fat diet... WRONG. In fact, plenty of fats are really healthy - not only from a weight loss standpoint, but also hormones and brain functions.
Carbs cause insulin spikes that tell the body to convert excess sugar into fat tissue... mostly RIGHT.

Granola is terrible for you. Wheat bread is terrible for you. Fruit juice, even 100% juice, should rarely be had. This is the new science. It's just going to take time to permeate...

The conspiracy theory is what this thread is about tho, and it's going to be colossal. We've been lied to about what's healthy. There's been selective release of studies and large corporations have deliberately held back data that would damage the claims that they are making, while pushing claims that they've done "research" on where the outcome is all but predetermined.

 

[FiveThous]

You would love the documentary film called "Fat Head" by Tom Naughton.

Is this on Netflix?

 

[natedagg]

People like to eat that stuff because it tastes better to them, or is more convenient for them, or is cheaper, or some combination of the above. That's their choice to make, not yours.

Wheat bread is not great for you -- it's just generally better than white bread, etc.. As for how it compares to table sugar....it depends on how much table sugar you eat, doesn't it?

You trolling?

Yes people like to eat these things for those reasons. They also are eating Lean Cuisines and food items generally promoted as healthy, foods that these companies are CLAIMING are healthy, and these corporations know that they are not healthy.

And why are these people so easy to dupe? Because they've been told, from the food pyramid to their doctor (who hasn't ever undergone a course on nutrition), the wrong information, which was perpetuated by the giant agricultural corporations.

... I am not trying to make a living debating a lawyer on a conspiracy theory. We'll leave it at "time will tell" and grab the popcor.... check that, grab some mixed nuts and watch the whole thing unfold.

 

[natedagg]

Is this on Netflix?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evcNPfZlrZs&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DevcNPfZlrZs&has_verified=1

 

[Kbiz]

I predict that the Cleveland Cavaliers will look more engaged defensively once the playoffs start. Seems pretty wild based on the current state of things.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Hey old man, I wasn't saying people shouldn't eat sugar, nor was I suggesting we should save people from themselves.

My point is bigger than sugar. It's that we're teaching people to eat horribly, from the GROUND up, starting with probably 2nd grade. Where's this nonsense coming from? Why are we so fat?

Fat makes you fat so eat a low fat diet... WRONG. In fact, plenty of fats are really healthy - not only from a weight loss standpoint, but also hormones and brain functions.
Carbs cause insulin spikes that tell the body to convert excess sugar into fat tissue... mostly RIGHT.

Granola is terrible for you. Wheat bread is terrible for you. Fruit juice, even 100% juice, should rarely be had. This is the new science. It's just going to take time to permeate...

The conspiracy theory is what this thread is about tho, and it's going to be colossal. We've been lied to about what's healthy. There's been selective release of studies and large corporations have deliberately held back data that would damage the claims that they are making, while pushing claims that they've done "research" on where the outcome is all but predetermined.

We're not "teaching" people to eat horribly. It's a naturally-acquired vice. My point is that people are choosing to eat the things that make them fat. Not because they mistakenly think those things are healthy, but simply because they like the way the taste. And, they eat too much of whatever it is that is making them fat.

That's not a conspiracy. That's just people being people.

 

[natedagg]

We're not "teaching" people to eat horribly. It's a naturally-acquired vice. My point is that people are choosing to eat the things that make them fat. Not because they mistakenly think those things are healthy, but simply because they like the way the taste. And, they eat too much of whatever it is that is making them fat.

That's not a conspiracy. That's just people being people.

It's a conspiracy if there's been a cover up of information by large corporations so that they can profit from the machine that they've created. Sounds like a textbook example of what the word conspiracy means...

I am not worried about the fat guy who says "so what, I am fat, I love this shit." We are all free to make health choices. I am worried about my mother-in-law who is now "pre-diabetic" because she can't be talked off of carbohydrates by me, due to lack of authority. She walks 5 miles/day, isn't overweight, and has probably a glass of wine a week. A rule follower through-and-through, I doubt she's every jay walked. YET, she has been "taught" about low fat diets that are "rich in whole grains."

It's a crock of shit, and I contend that it'll be a conspiracy proven to be fact that these corporations have violated laws to keep the machine rolling.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

You trolling?

No. Are you?

Yes people like to eat these things for those reasons. They also are eating Lean Cuisines and food items generally promoted as healthy, foods that these companies are CLAIMING are healthy, and these corporations know that they are not healthy.

"Healthy" is a relative term for most people. A lot of the stuff marketed as "healthy" may be somewhat crappy, but it is still better than the completely crappy stuff many people were eating before. "Whole grains" were sold as being part of a better diet because a huge number of people were eating highly processed grains that were even worse for them. So it's not that it's a lie -- it's that the frame of reference for most people isn't a perfectly balanced diet built from the ground up.

And why are these people so easy to dupe? Because they've been told, from the food pyramid to their doctor (who hasn't ever undergone a course on nutrition), the wrong information, which was perpetuated by the giant agricultural corporations.

First, I don't believe most of them are being "duped". At least, not to the extent you think they are. I think they are choosing to eat that way, with cost being a big factor in guiding the decisions of a lot of people. Sure, potatoes, bread, rice, etc., are not great for you. But they're cheap, and easier to prepare and make tasty, so people eat them.

Another relevant factor is that many people learn their eating habits from their parents, who learn them from their parents, etc.. And in the days when food was more scarce, and a lot of folks worked manual jobs, they needed a cheap source of calories. So, they made cheap carbs a stable part of many diets. Again, that's not a conspiracy. It's just people being people.

Nor do I believe that the source of all misinformation is "giant agricultural corporations." There have been beaucoup nutritionists and others who have been preaching this stuff for a long time, and people generally just choose not to listen.



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[Wrathe]

Why would Mayweather throw the fight? He's got a perfect record thus far and everyone who knows him suggests that he considers his record to be his crowning achievement.

Also, I think no one expects McGregor to win because he's not a boxer, and will be going up against the best pound for pound boxer in the world.

In all likelihood, McGregor should get embarrassed if they do end up in the ring and Mayweather is remotely healthy.

Now, does that mean boxing can't be fixed? LOL.. Of course it can.. I just don't see any reason Mayweather would do this.

I totally agree, all logic says no. I dunno why, just have that feeling. Why for Mayweather? $. Not all of that has to be above the board either, but it's what all shady stuff comes down to, dolla dolla bill yall!

 

[gourimoko]

We're not "teaching" people to eat horribly. It's a naturally-acquired vice. My point is that people are choosing to eat the things that make them fat. Not because they mistakenly think those things are healthy, but simply because they like the way the taste. And, they eat too much of whatever it is that is making them fat.

That's not a conspiracy. That's just people being people.

I think what @natedagg is saying is that there exists a conspiracy to hide from consumers just how unhealthy certain foods are; while simultaneously advertising the dubious health benefits of certain foods which we know are not necessarily healthy for a great many people - particularly those struggling with obesity.

 

[gourimoko]

I totally agree, all logic says no. I dunno why, just have that feeling. Why for Mayweather? $. Not all of that has to be above the board either, but it's what all shady stuff comes down to, dolla dolla bill yall!

I gotcha, but.. that begs the question... why would Mayweather want to sell his perfect record?

Mayweather being beaten by a novice in McGregor, someone with virtually no known boxing skill, would be a devastating blow to his legacy. Why would he essentially sell himself out when he's got more money than Scrooge McDuck?

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I think what @natedagg is saying is that there exists a conspiracy to hide from consumers just how unhealthy certain foods are; while simultaneously advertising the dubious health benefits of certain foods which we know are not necessarily healthy for a great many people - particularly those struggling with obesity.

I get that. My point is that most of the guidance begin given out to the average person is meant to improve their diet relative to what they were eating before, and that a fair bit of our obesity is due to eating habits that were traceable to a time when obtaining enough calories was a struggle for many people. For a much more sedentary population, caloric intake isn't a problem, so their eating habits aren't a good fit.

But okay, I'll try it your way. What very unhealthy foods are having those effects "hidden" from consumers? Because I have to say that there is shitloads of information out there about the right things to eat if people care enough to look.

 

[Otsego Mar]

I think what @natedagg is saying is that there exists a conspiracy to hide from consumers just how unhealthy certain foods are; while simultaneously advertising the dubious health benefits of certain foods which we know are not necessarily healthy for a great many people - particularly those struggling with obesity.

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