Conspiracy Theories / Wild Predictions

[The Human Q-Tip]

I have been thinking about this a lot. I think this is a huge area that is under studied. I do think fast food and other "factory foods" as my dad calls them promote a specific guy flora that makes people gain weight and not process foods properly. Also, preservatives keep certain bacteria from digesting foods, and that could heavily skew how your gut works if you eat a lot of prepared or non fresh food.

The most convincing study to me, was a case study of a woman who got a fecal transplant. A fecal transplant is to replace microorganisms in the gut after they have been killed with antibiotics. A thin woman got a fecal transplant from an overwight woman, and she ballooned up immediately even though her diet did not change.

http://www.iflscience.com/health-an...bese-after-fecal-transplant-overweight-donor/

Are you saying that the promotion of the "bad" bacteria is deliberately, or just a side-effect of that kind of food?

 

[gourimoko]

Is JFK being killed or conspired against by the CIA even a "conspiracy theory" really? Or is it pretty much known that they caused his death?

I'm not a historian like @BimboColesHair but I've studied JFK and this particular period of history quite a bit...

I think the "conspiracy theory" in this case (specifically that there was a conspiracy to kill the President) is far more likely than the government account (that Oswald acted alone, and no conspiracy existed); and I say that as someone who despises the mode of thinking employed by so many "conspiracy theorists."

 

[BimboColesHair]

I'm not a historian like @BimboColesHair but I've studied JFK and this particular period of history quite a bit...

I think the "conspiracy theory" in this case (specifically that there was a conspiracy to kill the President) is far more likely than the government account (that Oswald acted alone, and no conspiracy existed); and I say that as someone who despises the mode of thinking employed by so many "conspiracy theorists."

JFK assassination is an incredibly hard study, especially if you bring in lead up and aftermath of the event. Harder you look at it, more you shake your head.

A lot of history is started by a chance coincidence (Franz Ferdinand assassination, the initial fail, the accident to proceed on the same parade route, then stopping and turning around right next to Princip...leading to WWI, and in effect WWII, as an example).

But there are like 5 separate coincidences that all happened on that one day. Leads me to believe the official account is bullshit, or JFK and Oswald were just the unluckiest guys who ever lived.

 

[The Oi]

JFK assassination is an incredibly hard study, especially if you bring in lead up and aftermath of the event. Harder you look at it, more you shake your head.

A lot of history is started by a chance coincidence (Franz Ferdinand assassination, the initial fail, the accident to proceed on the same parade route, then stopping and turning around right next to Princip...leading to WWI, and in effect WWII, as an example).

But there are like 5 separate coincidences that all happened on that one day. Leads me to believe the official account is bullshit, or JFK and Oswald were just the unluckiest guys who ever lived.

What do you think happened?

 

[BimboColesHair]

What do you think happened?

One of 3 things.

Actual account is correct, Oswald acted alone, Ruby acted alone, CIA had no say, mob groups had no say, LBJ had no say, military-industrial complex had no say, and JFK is the unluckiest guy who ever lived.

Oswald was a CIA plant used as a patsy. CIA conspired with mob groups to hide the paper trail and close loose ends, conspired with the Secret Service to not properly protect the motorcade like it should be when the car top is off (and letting him ride around in it in the first place), tied him to the FBI and sent Oswald to Russia to get the FBI sniffing around on him as a high priority security risk, planted the rifle, doctored the picture, shot him from the knoll, etc.

It was a nationally covered coup masked as a lone gunman assassination involving all government agencies leading all the way up to the VP.

 

[CleveRocks]

People like to eat that stuff because it tastes better to them, or is more convenient for them, or is cheaper, or some combination of the above. That's their choice to make, not yours.

Wheat bread is not great for you -- it's just generally better than white bread, etc.. As for how it compares to table sugar....it depends on how much table sugar you eat, doesn't it?

I am pretty sure Rats think rat poison is delicious.. And it is not table sugar so much as the invisible sugars and carbs in every little thing. When I buy anything I look a the sugars. Greek Yogurt often has 30g where plain yogurt might be at 6. "Healthy" Cereals often contain twice the sugar of say corn flakes. Check it out before you buy.

Also about that bread glucose spike. I am Type II. I monitor sugars after I eat. If I eat a subway BMT, my glucose spikes within 15 minutes. If I eat a fresh Baguette in Paris, it does not. I have been told (by a French baker) that the flour used in France is courser. My thinking is this means slower digestion and lower peak glucose.

In any case, cut out the bread, pasta and sugars, drink a lot of water and exercise (where you are sweating) 40 minutes every day. See what happens.

 

[CleveRocks]

I also believe someone in the Obama administration authorized surveillance which led to the capture of conversations between trump surrogates and others, including people associated with Russia. I also the administration took steps to promote the Putin/Trump Narrative after the election to cover its tracks in regard to this surveillance. I also think Jim Clapper is up to his eyeballs in it and is deliberately misleading in his public statements (which is not the same as lying) If you have not already read Rand Paul's rational interview with Stephanopoulus, please do so, and you will see what I mean.

 

[JDailey23]

I stopped eating all sugar and stopped drinking soda for 4 weeks and lost 16 pounds. I only ate natural foods for breakfast and dinner and a healthy choice type meal for my lunch.
I stopped this "diet" when I went to Cleveland 3 weeks ago and went bat shit crazy eating everything in sight and really haven't stopped since. I have put two pounds back on in this time frame. I definitely believe that sugar is the new nicotine.
Once I start eating sugar or whatever, it's hard as hell to stop. Not too mention I feel tired and lazy as fuck again.

 

[bigfoot5415]

I stopped eating all sugar and stopped drinking soda for 4 weeks and lost 16 pounds. I only ate natural foods for breakfast and dinner and a healthy choice type meal for my lunch.
I stopped this "diet" when I went to Cleveland 3 weeks ago and went bat shit crazy eating everything in sight and really haven't stopped since. I have put two pounds back on in this time frame. I definitely believe that sugar is the new nicotine.
Once I start eating sugar or whatever, it's hard as hell to stop. Not too mention I feel tired and lazy as fuck again.

Once its kicked, your body will feel fantastic.

 

[JDailey23]

Once its kicked, your body will feel fantastic.

Truth. I felt 10x better and slept 100x better when not eating that crap.
God damn Girl Scout cookies.

 

[Jack Brickman]

There has been a multi-decade conspiracy to cover up the harmful effects of eating sugar, and possibly other well known starchy carbohydrates.
Who: I am not sure, but at least all of the major food companies; likely includes the USDA (Food Pyramid).
When: For decades.
Why: Profit from selling cheap ingredients.
How: These large food conglomerates have conducted research and knowingly omitted results detrimental to their interests. I believe they are being sued to release this data now.

The end game: Americans are fat, don't understand nutrition (even worse: are misguided about it, believing that they do), there are other diseases from years of malnutrition. Probably lots of cavities too, given that our teeth weren't made for the kinds of food we are eating...

Here's a quick one: Sugar might be the next tobacco... https://www.mayerbrown.com/files/Ne...1/BloombergBNAClassActionLitigationReport.pdf

I feel like this one is closer to fact than theory at this point.

The fact that corn syrup is such a prominent part of the American diet is proof enough that food companies in this country are actively out to harm us to increase their profits.

 

[Cavatt]

Are you saying that the promotion of the "bad" bacteria is deliberately, or just a side-effect of that kind of food?

At this point I think it is clear that certain sugars and additives are incredibly bad aND the manufacturers know this and are at least complicit if not intentionality responsible.

I think the food is meant to be addictive on purpose. Just like any drug, you get people who are hooked, people who are not affected and think it is gross, and people whose lives are destroyed by it. I think it is irresponsible at best.

Corn syrup being in everything is hard for me to rationalize. I suppose it is a byproduct of subsidizing corn growers. It is really cheap as a result, but it is also perceived as sweeter than cane sugar by the taste buds. Cheaper and sweeter. Bad combo as you can get a lot of empty calories cheaper than healthy calories.

Doritos are my favorite exaple. Cheaper than tostititos made by the same company, but one is corn chips the other is corn chips plus other stuff including msg. Why is the chip with stuff on it cheaper? Is it a conspiracy?

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Maybe I just have a different definition of conspiracy that do you guys.... All these companies acting in their own individual interests leads to the exact same result.

And about the corn syrup, MSG...people know that shit isn't good for them. Moms have been telling kids not to eat too much sugar for many decades. We just keep eating it because it tastes good to many of us, and companies keep making it because we keep eating it.

I don't believe it is their job to teach us good dietary habits, or to only make food that is good for us. We just need to stop eating it. There are people fat as fuck out there right now gorging themselves on all sorts of shit that if you asked them, they'd admit is not healthy for them. But they do it anyway despite that knowledge.

How does anyone propose to fix that?

 

[Cavatt]

Maybe I just have a different definition of conspiracy that do you guys.... All these companies acting in their own individual interests leads to the exact same result.

And about the corn syrup, MSG...people know that shit isn't good for them. Moms have been telling kids not to eat too much sugar for many decades. We just keep eating it because it tastes good to many of us, and companies keep making it because we keep eating it.

I don't believe it is their job to teach us good dietary habits, or to only make food that is good for us. We just need to stop eating it. There are people fat as fuck out there right now gorging themselves on all sorts of shit that if you asked them, they'd admit is not healthy for them. But they do it anyway despite that knowledge.

How does anyone propose to fix that?

I don't know and there are a lot of freedom of coice issues here. The fact of the matter is that some of these foods i have no doubt are worse than "not good for you". They will actively corrupt the way you digest and obtain nutrients. That is not cool.

using ingredients to make food delicious is one thing, but engineering something so it is irresistible is nefarious. Where do you draw the line? How natural do all the ingredients have to be? It is an arms race and the most addicting food wins.

Your point to lifestyle is well-taken. I moved to California 2 years ago and there really are not so many obese people here. It can be shocking to return to the midwest and see what is happening though. It is THE major health crises going on right now and it is costing us billions while the junk food industry is raking in tons of money. They have no responsibility for the quality of the items they offer?

 

[Cavatt]

In regards to JFK. I know a guy who is under 30 and worth 90M dollars. He did not make that money himself, his grandfather did. He was a texas oil man who was a confirmed close friend of LBJ. He, on his deathbed, admitted that he had colluded with other oil guys and the CIA to kill JFK.

Dunno if it is true, but he did confess that and he was in a position to do that in the 60's.