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Damn, Jimmy G this is some serious good quarterbacking.
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Don't hold your breath on that.
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This is popular opinion right now. I think the 49ers have pre-negotiated the next JG contract and that he was unwilling to do so for the Browns. Yes, we'd have given up a 2nd (or late 1st) for the QB of the future, but not for a meaningless 1/2 season rental.
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The Browns could have easily franchise tagged him.
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I am unequipped to have this discussion, as I don't know the ins-and-outs of the franchise tag rules, so forgive me if I am wrong here:
we tag him and if he goes, we get draft pick compensation (what picks?).
we pay him a lot, and if we tag him again, we pay him a ton.
It's also possible that Hue didn't think he would be a top 20 NFL QB.
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A franchise tag is basically a one year forced contract that costs the team the average pay of the top 5 salaries of the position the player is.I am unequipped to have this discussion, as I don't know the ins-and-outs of the franchise tag rules, so forgive me if I am wrong here:
we tag him and if he goes, we get draft pick compensation (what picks?).
we pay him a lot, and if we tag him again, we pay him a ton.
It's also possible that Hue didn't think he would be a top 20 NFL QB.
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What happens when he leaves anyway? Is the salary including their amortized signing bonus (like, their cap hit) or their annual pay only? What happens if he has to sign it again next year? What happens if he refuses to sign it?
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What happens when he leaves anyway? Is the salary including their amortized signing bonus (like, their cap hit) or their annual pay only? What happens if he has to sign it again next year? What happens if he refuses to sign it?
a qb can be franchised for 3 years in a row, ask Kirk Cousins.
It would cost us about 25 million next year for Jimmy G. One year contract.
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What happens when he leaves anyway? Is the salary including their amortized signing bonus (like, their cap hit) or their annual pay only? What happens if he has to sign it again next year? What happens if he refuses to sign it?
First off, excellent use of visual. @Deezus
Secondly, there is no if he leaves anyway. He cannot play the season if he doesn't sign the tag or negotiate with the team for a deal.
Basically he's trapped
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What happens when he leaves anyway? Is the salary including their amortized signing bonus (like, their cap hit) or their annual pay only? What happens if he has to sign it again next year? What happens if he refuses to sign it?
Someone in Jimmy's spot would never leave money on the table.
Football, of all sports, you take the money when you can get it. Even if you're in a shitty situation like the Browns.
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The Patriots either didn't want him in the AFC or he didn't want to come to Cleveland. My bet is on the latter. I find it extremely difficult to accept that our FO wouldn't have made a better offer than SF with all the assets we do have.
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Wait, I am looking at overthecap.com and it shows that Cousins has only been franchised 2 years in a row. https://overthecap.com/player/kirk-cousins/1443/
What's missing in everyone's explanation is that you received the greater of 120% of your previous year's salary OR the average (mean) of the top 5 paid players' (cap hit NOT cash paid) salaries at the position, from the previous year.
That's what makes Cousins' S so F-ed: he got a 20% raise on his last franchise tag, which is obviously a lot of $. That's how LeBron would do it BTW: just keep getting tagged every year - it's amazing!
Like Stafford has $60M guaranteed, but Cousins and Drew Brees are killing the game. No wonder Drew likes those quick 3 step drops
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Wait, I am looking at overthecap.com and it shows that Cousins has only been franchised 2 years in a row. https://overthecap.com/player/kirk-cousins/1443/
What's missing in everyone's explanation is that you received the greater of 120% of your previous year's salary OR the average (mean) of the top 5 paid players' (cap hit NOT cash paid) salaries at the position, from the previous year.
That's what makes Cousins' S so F-ed: he got a 20% raise on his last franchise tag, which is obviously a lot of $. That's how LeBron would do it BTW: just keep getting tagged every year - it's amazing!
The 120 i believe is only for your 3rd year and is only for qb. Other positions can only be tagged 2 years.
But yes, this is why it is believed they wont keep Cousins, he is going to refuse to sign there long term, Cleveland might have to pay cousins 30 mill a year to convince him to come btw, not sure cousins is a great solution, but i am not him and have no idea what he is really worth playing for. What is known he hates the management in Washington and wants out.