Delonte could be out before the start of FA?

[Evancook]

You are right there will be 24 other NBA teams looking to get Paul, with the main exceptions being Boston, Utah, PHX, Chicago, GSW but almost none of the other teams (save maybe Dalls, LAL) would be willing to take back Emeka or Posey. A lot of teams could offer better talent straight up for Paul, but none could offer the combination of financial savings and talent that we can offer the Hornets.

:chuckles: im not even going to comment on the talent thing.Look,im not a pessimist,but there is not much positive value of any player on our current roster outside of JJ;Danny Green;and debatably Andy.Everyone else is just an expiring or their contract length/price isn't worth there production.
EVERY TEAM in the nba would take back Emeka for CP3.hell posey only has 2 years left on his contract.Taking on Emeka does in no way hurt any team looking to contend.he's a starting caliber center for Christs' sake

Give it a rest.
This CP3 stuff is almost getting as bad as the 3 Mavs fans on RealGM that think LBJ is getting s&t'd to Dallas(I know theres a few you realgm'ers on here,you know..)

 

[Binkster]

There are 12 players on the Hornets roster that they would be willing to trade ahead of Chris Paul. As the old saying goes... Maybe in franchise mode on 2K10. Until then, Paul is under contract until 2013.

 

[Binkster]

If you want to talk about something more realistic, at least make it about Darren Collison. That isn't realistic either, but at least it's fathomable.

 

[Smooth]

Why do you want Tyson Chandler?

Because I think he's the best available center out there that's actually a realistic option..

One way or another the Cavs need a center this off-season, who would you suggest is a better option than Chandler? The only guy I could see that is debatable is Dalembert...

I personally really like Chandler... I think he's someone who could be a good fit here but for a lot of reasons... He's also not going to cost a lot to get and he's still young... He's also a got a good contract that if he proves to not be a fit, it won't be hard to get rid of him and his expiring could come in handy if that happens to be the case..

I just like how athletic he is and his versatility on both ends of the court... Offensively while he isn't a huge threat, he's not going to be a huge lane clogger because of his ability to finish and his ability to work the P&R with LeBron like he did with CP3 in Charlotte and like LeBron does with Andy and JJ here... Defensively he's got the ability to match up with differing styles because of his athleticism and length... He's also going to be a good shot-blocker and a very good rebounder... But more importantly, he's going to be able to play the P&R well because of his athletic ability... One of the negatives on him defensively is he's going to have a problem with bigger centers but his length and athletic ability are going to help him...

He has had some foot/ankle issues the past couple of years but he has a track record of staying healthy for a 4 season stretch of time...

 

[mAo_mAo]

The only problem I have with Chandler is that he is frequently injured.

 

[Mdog1]

:chuckles: im not even going to comment on the talent thing.Look,im not a pessimist,but there is not much positive value of any player on our current roster outside of JJ;Danny Green;and debatably Andy.Everyone else is just an expiring or their contract length/price isn't worth there production.
EVERY TEAM in the nba would take back Emeka for CP3.hell posey only has 2 years left on his contract.Taking on Emeka does in no way hurt any team looking to contend.he's a starting caliber center for Christs' sake

Give it a rest.
This CP3 stuff is almost getting as bad as the 3 Mavs fans on RealGM that think LBJ is getting s&t'd to Dallas(I know theres a few you realgm'ers on here,you know..)

So you think that a lot of teams are willing to take on Emeka? I completely disagree, many teams in the NBA are in huge financial trouble and would not be able to take Emeka Okafors contract, plus Emeka is really only usefull to a contender, and most contenders have good Pf/Cs.

Let's take a look at the contending teams.

Boston - Rondo, Perkins
LAL - Fisher, Bynum (biggest threat out of all contenders imo)
Utah - Williams, Okur
PHX - Nash, Frye
Cleveland - Willaims (not Deron ), ?
Orlando - Jameer, Dwight
Atlanta - Bibby, Horford
Dallas - Kidd, Haywood
Denver - Billups, Nene

As you can see not a lot of need out there for both positions unlike here in Cleveland. Hell we may even be willing to take Posey and Okafor along with Paul. Like I said LAL and Dallas may be the only teams truly willing to take on Okafor to get their hands on Paul.

Hell even look at some of the lower tiered playoff teams (I.E not rebuilding)

Milwaukee - Jennings, Bogut
Chicago - Rose, Noah
Portland - Miller, Camby
SAS - Parker, Duncan
OKC - Westbrook, ?


Even some of the lottery teams don't really need a PG.

Washington - Wall, Blatche
GSW - Curry, ?
Memphis - Conley, Gasol/Thabeet
Clippers - Davis, Jordan/Kaman
Houston - Brooks, Yao
NJN - Harris, Lopez
Toronto - Calderon, Bargs


As you can see a lot of teams have good PGs, or at least PGs that it would not be worth trying to get Paul over another need. Nobody is going to trade for Emeka straight up, not with the uncertainty of the new CBA looming.

Basically of the teams that truly need a PG there are very few that actually have the ability to absorb a contract like Okafors.

 

[Is it True]

So you think that a lot of teams are willing to take on Emeka? I completely disagree, many teams in the NBA are in huge financial trouble and would not be able to take Emeka Okafors contract, plus Emeka is really only usefull to a contender, and most contenders have good Pf/Cs.

Let's take a look at the contending teams.

Boston - Rondo, Perkins
LAL - Fisher, Bynum (biggest threat out of all contenders imo)
Utah - Williams, Okur
PHX - Nash, Frye
Cleveland - Willaims (not Deron ), ?
Orlando - Jameer, Dwight
Atlanta - Bibby, Horford
Dallas - Kidd, Haywood
Denver - Billups, Nene

As you can see not a lot of need out there for both positions unlike here in Cleveland. Hell we may even be willing to take Posey and Okafor along with Paul. Like I said LAL and Dallas may be the only teams truly willing to take on Okafor to get their hands on Paul.

Hell even look at some of the lower tiered playoff teams (I.E not rebuilding)

Milwaukee - Jennings, Bogut
Chicago - Rose, Noah
Portland - Miller, Camby
SAS - Parker, Duncan
OKC - Westbrook, ?


Even some of the lottery teams don't really need a PG.

Washington - Wall, Blatche
GSW - Curry, ?
Memphis - Conley, Gasol/Thabeet
Clippers - Davis, Jordan/Kaman
Houston - Brooks, Yao
NJN - Harris, Lopez
Toronto - Calderon, Bargs


As you can see a lot of teams have good PGs, or at least PGs that it would not be worth trying to get Paul over another need. Nobody is going to trade for Emeka straight up, not with the uncertainty of the new CBA looming.

Basically of the teams that truly need a PG there are very few that actually have the ability to absorb a contract like Okafors.

Your dreaming dude, but atleast they're good dreams.

 

[Smooth]

The problem with Okafor is that he isn't a good center vs. the P&R and struggles vs. the bigger centers in the league despite being strong and a good shot-blocker...

Whether or not the Hornets are in financial trouble, which they don't look to be under the new ownership, is irrelevant... The problem with Okafor is no one wants an undersized, slightly above-average center for ~$63 million over the next 5 years....

I still say Tyson Chandler and Samuel Dalembert, in that order, are the best realistic options at the center spot...

 

[Mdog1]

The problem with Okafor is that he isn't a good center vs. the P&R and struggles vs. the bigger centers in the league despite being strong and a good shot-blocker...

Whether or not the Hornets are in financial trouble, which they don't look to be under the new ownership, is irrelevant... The problem with Okafor is no one wants an undersized, slightly above-average center for ~$63 million over the next 5 years....

I still say Tyson Chandler and Samuel Dalembert, in that order, are the best realistic options at the center spot...

I don't know about Dalembert, they will most likely look to trade him at the deadline. Chandler may be in the same situation as they are both large expirings that may be able to get those teams some nice assets.

 

[Mdog1]

Your dreaming dude, but atleast they're good dreams.

I don't know why you think that my post was a dream. I would like to hear why the teams I listed would trade their PG + other pieces, plus take on a huge amount of salary in order to secure a PG who is coming off of a major knee surgery, and a C who has one of the worst contracts in the league.

 

[Evancook]

So you think that a lot of teams are willing to take on Emeka? I completely disagree, many teams in the NBA are in huge financial trouble and would not be able to take Emeka Okafors contract, plus Emeka is really only usefull to a contender, and most contenders have good Pf/Cs.

Let's take a look at the contending teams.

Boston - Rondo, Perkins
LAL - Fisher, Bynum (biggest threat out of all contenders imo)
Utah - Williams, Okur
PHX - Nash, Frye
Cleveland - Willaims (not Deron ), ?
Orlando - Jameer, Dwight
Atlanta - Bibby, Horford
Dallas - Kidd, Haywood
Denver - Billups, Nene

As you can see not a lot of need out there for both positions unlike here in Cleveland. Hell we may even be willing to take Posey and Okafor along with Paul. Like I said LAL and Dallas may be the only teams truly willing to take on Okafor to get their hands on Paul.

Hell even look at some of the lower tiered playoff teams (I.E not rebuilding)

Milwaukee - Jennings, Bogut
Chicago - Rose, Noah
Portland - Miller, Camby
SAS - Parker, Duncan
OKC - Westbrook, ?


Even some of the lottery teams don't really need a PG.

Washington - Wall, Blatche
GSW - Curry, ?
Memphis - Conley, Gasol/Thabeet
Clippers - Davis, Jordan/Kaman
Houston - Brooks, Yao
NJN - Harris, Lopez
Toronto - Calderon, Bargs


As you can see a lot of teams have good PGs, or at least PGs that it would not be worth trying to get Paul over another need. Nobody is going to trade for Emeka straight up, not with the uncertainty of the new CBA looming.

Basically of the teams that truly need a PG there are very few that actually have the ability to absorb a contract like Okafors.

The only teams that don't trade for CP3 are Boston/Washington/Utah
Every other team can ditch their PG or move him to the 2 if they need to for the best point in the league.
Its like saying the Thunder would be completely opposed to signing lebron if he wanted to go there,because they already have Durant.They would deal with it.

Name every team you deem in Financial trouble for me please.i'm really curious as to which teams wouldn't essentially pay an extra 12 million a year for CP3 to get him.

By the way,Some of those point guard/big combos you listed are atrocious and CP3/Emeka are WAY better than most of them.

 

[Mdog1]

The only teams that don't trade for CP3 are Boston/Washington/Utah
Every other team can ditch their PG or move him to the 2 if they need to for the best point in the league.
Its like saying the Thunder would be completely opposed to signing lebron if he wanted to go there,because they already have Durant.They would deal with it.

Name every team you deem in Financial trouble for me please.i'm really curious as to which teams wouldn't essentially pay an extra 12 million a year for CP3 to get him.

By the way,Some of those point guard/big combos you listed are atrocious and CP3/Emeka are WAY better than most of them.

Memphis, Indianna, Utah (owner doesn't want to go over lux), PHX, Minni. Actually this is going to take forever, let me just list the teams that are not in trouble.

Cleveland, LAL, Boston, Dallas, Chicago, NYK, NJN, Denver (maybe?). I don't know the finances of every team, but W&G told us that most NBA teams were in trouble. Look that thread up. And I doubt that most teams would want to move their PG to the 2 guard spot as most teams have good 2 guards as well.

 

[MoFlo]

As the old saying goes... Maybe in franchise mode on 2K10.

 

[Adam]

you haven't heard that one?? my grandad used to say if all the time. His other favourite was "there's nowt as queer as shape memory alloys"

 

[Kouki]

Okafor would be an upgrade but still not enough of one to deal with Dwight and Bynum. He's not really a legit C. Might look okay next to Z though.