• Changing RCF's index page, please click on "Forums" to access the forums.

Derrick Rose: Outta Here!

Do Not Sell My Personal Information
Hopefully he has/had a good financial advisor. He has already earned $100mil+ from the NBA and that's without the endorsement deals, so he should be relatively fine.
 
Don't see how this can possibly be true. Even when playing, the team has been better with him off the floor. His only potential role is as an instant offense guy off the bench, benchut he's not good enough to do it every night, and the Cavs already have a guy in a similar role who's just better at it.

Now with Jose (shockingly) playing decently, and IT coming back, there are just not minutes for him. The other night, Lue went 10 deep without IT, Shump and TT. I don't see any argument for him to play over those 13 players.

I think it will easier in the sense that they can now focus on running plays specific for him. I think if he comes back he is in the rotation, nothing Lue has said makes us think otherwise. There were alot of issues outside of Rose to start the season. I actually think the injuries helped to work those issues out. Everyone outside of LeBron were playing minutes in the mid to low 20's. Once injuries started happening guys minutes naturally went up and they had more time to get use to each other.

Let's not forget Rose was averaging 14.3 points in 27 minutes for this team. This team needed to come together and figure out how to play together. I personally didn't think Rose was the issue, effort on both ends of the floor was. This team was playing maybe 6-8 minutes of defense in the 4th quarter to try to beat teams before. They were sleep walking on both ends of the floor.
 
He's not good for winning basketball games. Root for the guy, wish him well but if you're anyone playing the cavs you want Rose on the court.

His team defense sucks, his on ball defense sucks, he can't shoot, his floor game is near non existent. He can still get by his man and finish ok at the rim and that's what keeps him in the league. But a player with one very good skill in today's league is almost a death sentence.
 
He’d lose 70M from Nike if he retired. He’s not going anywhere.

Adidas not Nike. I think he would have been better off with Nike. They put alot of money and research into reducing stress, wear and tear on players than other shoe companies do.
 
Damn man I was hoping drose would shine here. It's crazy because I had this exact same feeling with Andrew Bynum. Guys who were straight killers on other teams that came to the cavs but they just can't get over the injuries. I wish him nothing but the best in his personal life
 
This is why I didn’t want Rose in the off-season when the Cavs were considering him. There’s just something about his character that seems off. From questions about whether he was healthy enough to play back with the Bulls, to his super team comments with NY to his questionable decision making with the female accuser, the guy just seems to be a bit of an idiot. I feel for any player that has terrible injures over and over again; I’m sure that sucks. But the fact that he’s willing to throw in the towel doesn’t surprise me at all. But honestly I’d be relieved if he was off the Cavs. I’d rather someone else in his spot. Just don’t think he’s a reliable player or a good high quality person.
 
This is why I didn’t want Rose in the off-season when the Cavs were considering him. There’s just something about his character that seems off. From questions about whether he was healthy enough to play back with the Bulls, to his super team comments with NY to his questionable decision making with the female accuser, the guy just seems to be a bit of an idiot. I feel for any player that has terrible injures over and over again; I’m sure that sucks. But the fact that he’s willing to throw in the towel doesn’t surprise me at all. But honestly I’d be relieved if he was off the Cavs. I’d rather someone else in his spot. Just don’t think he’s a reliable player or a good high quality person.

Young Rose was a humble quiet guy. The injuries cracked him mentally up. He even admitted that he had deep depressions during the time in NYK. İ do believe he is a nice guy, who suffered too much mentally...

Really sad man. I was and still am a big fan of him.
 
I think it will easier in the sense that they can now focus on running plays specific for him. I think if he comes back he is in the rotation, nothing Lue has said makes us think otherwise. There were alot of issues outside of Rose to start the season. I actually think the injuries helped to work those issues out. Everyone outside of LeBron were playing minutes in the mid to low 20's. Once injuries started happening guys minutes naturally went up and they had more time to get use to each other.

Let's not forget Rose was averaging 14.3 points in 27 minutes for this team. This team needed to come together and figure out how to play together. I personally didn't think Rose was the issue, effort on both ends of the floor was. This team was playing maybe 6-8 minutes of defense in the 4th quarter to try to beat teams before. They were sleep walking on both ends of the floor.

He was averaging 14 points on 47% shooting, no threes and very few fta. He's averaging more turnovers than assists on the year.

I don't know, man... he just doesn't contribute to winning anymore.
 
He was averaging 14 points on 47% shooting, no threes and very few fta. He's averaging more turnovers than assists on the year.

I don't know, man... he just doesn't contribute to winning anymore.

47% is above his career average. I agree the turnovers and assists were a problem but I put that up to a team that wasn't familiar playing with each other. Add that to a team who doesn't run much of a system on offense and it's going to take a point guard time to adjust. Remember we had pretty much a whole preseason without LeBron. Pretty much everyone not named LeBron was playing bad. It took time for all the new guys to look decent. Rose was actually one of the more consistent scorers of the new guys.
 
Poor guy was just born with weak connective tissue. Could have been a great one, but time to hang it up.
 
Poor guy was just born with weak connective tissue. Could have been a great one, but time to hang it up.

I’m sure his diet growning up didn’t help his bodies development. There’s been stories about how he didn’t eat real food in college or high school. Just candy. That can’t be good for someone who was probably already born with a weaker bone structure.
 
I wonder what Adidas thinks about his secret Nike deal...
Right, he signed a 13-year contract with Adidas in 2012 for $185 million, not hard to find those headlines still on the internet. Supposedly there were some performance clauses that could have boosted the value to $250 million, but I imagine he lost those long ago. By 2015 that Adidas contract was a laughingstock, and if they could have annulled it because of the rape suit I think they would have.
 
I not bashing this dude. Injuries are a part of sports, and when you get to the professional level, the amount of pounding your body takes is astronomical.
The Cavs have very little invested in him, and there was a reason for it. Derrick was a great player who’s career was cut altered by injuries.
If he comes back, great. Part of me hopes he does. If not, I totally get it. At some point enough is enough.
 

Rubber Rim Job Podcast Video

Episode 3-14: "Time for Playoff Vengeance on Mickey"

Rubber Rim Job Podcast Spotify

Episode 3:14: " Time for Playoff Vengeance on Mickey."
Top