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Diet and Workout Routines

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Since I won't have preworkout to coma me through my workouts. New schedule. Mon 1 hr pick up basketball, 45 min boxing class, 45 min mma class. Same on Tuesday no lifting those days. Take Wednesday completely off. Thursday chest tri, Friday legs shoulders, sat back and bi Sunday completely off.

What would you say your maintenance caloric intake should be at your current weight?
Well on myfitness is says it should be 3000 to lose a lb, but I haven't been losing weight since I was 230.
 
I want to say about 9 weeks.

Honestly, i would consider trying your new workout plan at maintenance calories. I am always of the mind dropping your calories more has a negative impact on hormonal output. Allow your body some time to recover and i would surmise your calories were too low, considering all the activity you were doing.
 
Honestly, i would consider trying your new workout plan at maintenance calories. I am always of the mind dropping your calories more has a negative impact on hormonal output. Allow your body some time to recover and i would surmise your calories were too low, considering all the activity you were doing.
Then how did I gain 7 lbs? I weigh myself every week. I went down to 215 them back up to 223. Also is my new workout plan ok?
 
If you are going to weigh yourself, you should do it daily. The human bodyweight fluctuates constantly. You can take the average and that is usually a good indicator of where you are.

With respect to your workout, i really do not know amd think you should go by what your body is telling you. If your are worn out, sluggish and sore constantly — it is probably too much. I would really try and find a “sweet spot” where the workouts actually energize your body and not exhaust you. In reality — working out is creating stress on your central nervous system, muscles; etc. — too much stress is never a good thing and actually unhealthy.

Again, these are principles that work for me. But i really believe your challenges are more of a mental block of “not doing enough” type mindset. The goal should be to make it as easy and healthy as possible. Also, whatever your time frame to lose that wait is — double it or even triple it — the slower it is, the healthier it usually is.
 
Definitely weigh yourself daily and try to be consistent with your timing. I weigh myself after waking up and before morning piss but before coffee and morning poo.

Even still - a day to day bodyweight variation of 3% is normal. Depends on hydration, glycogen stores, literally how much food is working its way through your system, etc.

I've lost 7 lbs in one day and I've also gained 11 lbs in one day.

So if you are weighing only once a week, there could be extra noise in the data.
 
Definitely weigh yourself daily and try to be consistent with your timing. I weigh myself after waking up and before morning piss but before coffee and morning poo.

Even still - a day to day bodyweight variation of 3% is normal. Depends on hydration, glycogen stores, literally how much food is working its way through your system, etc.

I've lost 7 lbs in one day and I've also gained 11 lbs in one day.

So if you are weighing only once a week, there could be extra noise in the data.

I also found that weight should not be the goal, per say. This tends to lead to yo yo dieting and extreme fluctuations. I think the mirror, waist measurement and bloodwork are the best goal.

For example — outside of TRT i am natural, so my body type has a peak potential limit, in terms of total muscle. So, if i am strong, lean and look really good at 167-170 — why not stay there? I could weigh 190, be potentially stronger, but significantly less vascular/attractive — so what is the benefit of hitting an arbitrary number?

I would rather have big delts, chest, arms, athletic legs and a small waist at a lower bodyweight.
 
Yes, when I was 237, I was lifting more than ever. 300 bench, 450 squat and 475 deadlift, but let's say in basketball, a guy that's 260 was still pushing me around and my cardio wasn't good trying to add muscle. So I looked in mirror saw my stomach was fat and said f it I'd rather have a 6 pack and be able to run all day long. So that's why I'm trying to get to 185 get rid of my stomach. People think I'm in shape, but when I take my shirt off I have a gut and no type of stomach muscles
 
There's probably a happy (and healthy) medium there.
What about 200. Or, with your mindset, maybe 195 is more appropriate.
 
So I had sparring today mma have about 3 months experience and had been handling most guys. Today a man came in and mopped the floor with me. Hurt my pride. Still am going to stay off preworkout, but that hit something primal in me. I have to work harder. Think I'm going to lift at 4 in the morning, go to mma at night after work. Have to work harder than anyone. If and when my body breaks down will be when I break.
 
So I've been feeling demotivated to do anything physical. I went to the gym two days in a row and today I got on the elyptical and just walked away. Sigh
 
My first time in 5 years not using preworkout, I got through this week, doing my regular routine. Wasn't as pumped, but not bad. Still am taking creatine and beta alanine
 
So I've been feeling demotivated to do anything physical. I went to the gym two days in a row and today I got on the elyptical and just walked away. Sigh
That's happened to me. All you can do is rest up and try again the next day. Don't beat yourself up too much.
 
So I've been feeling demotivated to do anything physical. I went to the gym two days in a row and today I got on the elyptical and just walked away. Sigh
Days like that will happen. Sometimes, your body just needs the day off, even if your schedule or training plan says otherwise.

I had that this past week. I was going to run on Wednesday, but was tired and just could not coax myself to hit the pavement. Took the day off and felt much stronger when I got back to it on Thursday.

Over time, you learn your body's signals, and can distinguish "I don' wanna" type whining from "dude, you really do need to rest for a day or two" type signs.
 

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