Evan Mobley: 2023 All Defensive 1st Team

[Damage]

Also, I think people who watch box scores get frustrated with Mobley, but for the most part watching a game, there are moments in every game these days where he is clearly the best player on the floor, or at least the most complete player. He can literally wreck total havoc on defense and he generally makes great decisions on offense, but there are also times where he gets ghosted by Levert and others... and has minimal impact.

I believe he needs to start getting in teammates faces to get him the ball.

Yea, so that ain't his makeup and that's fine. What he needs is a coach who knows how to run sets through him.

 

[Popper]

Bickerstaff is bad for Mobley and Garland. He tries to fit their lesser abilities into a showcase while ignoring strengths. Garland for example is a underrated, single, isolation defender who does well with doubles, struggles with switches. Something after the Clippers game he finally critiqued Bickerstaff on. Mobley has great skill passing and would fit a motion offense very well. His core shooting mechanics are pretty good and you can tell shooting was fairly new to him. Why the Cavs in 2021-22 onward have not let the guy work on that instead opting for persistent isolation basketball because of Bickerstaff's limitations is grating. Even the Mitchell trade was about Bickerstaff and his ways. Just a complete fail by Altman finally to Gilbert.

 

[cabs]

The favours comp is weird, he’s been better than the best version of Favours since his rookie season

I think he may be a better version of Al Horford if he doesn’t end up bumping his ability to score

 

[bushwick_bill]

 

[PIP]

If he put up 25-13 like he was supposed to his impact would be a bit more noteworthy….

But let’s keep pacifying this guy and highlighting this level of impact…

 

[Tlyons]

If he put up 25-13 like he was supposed to his impact would be a bit more noteworthy….

But let’s keep pacifying this guy and highlighting this level of impact…

He was in foul trouble the whole game.

This isn't the game to be upset.

 

[PIP]

I’m upset

 

[bushwick_bill]

 

[Tlyons]

It was either this one or another one that he got clearly wacked in the head and refs just said fuck it.

 

[jmilo]

If he put up 25-13 like he was supposed to his impact would be a bit more noteworthy….

But let’s keep pacifying this guy and highlighting this level of impact…

I think he's one of the best defenders in the game.

He's also a very skilled big man offensively. He'll never be Garnett, Duncan, Embiid or Jokic. But we shouldn't expect that out of him. If he's a good good pick and roll player with a serviceable jumper, that's good.

If you wanted Mobley to be your Giannis, then it probably isn't ever going to happen. If you wanted him to be a piece of our whole, I think he's there already.

I think he's a rich man's Tyson Chandler.

 

[PIP]

I think he's one of the best defenders in the game.

He's also a very skilled big man offensively. He'll never be Garnett, Duncan, Embiid or Jokic. But we shouldn't expect that out of him. If he's a good good pick and roll player with a serviceable jumper, that's good.

If you wanted Mobley to be your Giannis, then it probably isn't ever going to happen. If you wanted him to be a piece of our whole, I think he's there already.

I think he's a rich man's Tyson Chandler.

I would not take him over Tyson Chandler

I know he knocks down a couple 3’s a week but that’s not good enough.

The expectation was that he was going to be a special talent and the next big man in the league to dominate…

He’s a serviceable player.

 

[jmilo]

I would not take him over Tyson Chandler

I know he knocks down a couple 3’s a week but that’s not good enough.

The expectation was that he was going to be a special talent and the next big man in the league to dominate…

He’s a serviceable player.

If you just think he's serviceable, we're going to have to disagree.

And I don't think any NBA GM's would be on your side of the disagreement.

 

[PIP]

If you just think he's serviceable, we're going to have to disagree.

And I don't think any NBA GM's would be on your side of the disagreement.

The potential and skill is there. The stuff you can’t teach like drive and desire etc is simply not…. Or isn’t at the level of an elite caliber player looking to dominate and be a superstar…

He’s Charles Smith from the Clippers/Knicks early 90’s… Size, numbers, draft status, demeanor all check out…

High level role player… Which is serviceable to me…

Or how about let’s say like a Horace Grant… He was serviceable… Believe he made an all star team once or so and maybe Evan can do the same… Impacts the game, just isn’t a game changer on a consistent basis…

 

[pinoycavsfan]

Really impressed with Mobley's playmaking this season. Having multiple games of 5 assists or more. Would love to see him have more reps as a secondary playmaker and develop that skill. Feels like he is almost at the verge of a breakout, he just needs to put things together. The shooting, the physicality and the passing are all encouraging. The injury this year is a speed bump. He is so close.

 

[buzzdog]

I'm seeing slow, solid progress and growth. I think the way he's improving he's only making positive steps, not regressing. But it's slow, and it's steady. For me the question is, will he at some point reach a critical mass where things fall into place, slow down even more, and will he make a leap instead of baby steps? I think it's possible but not assured.

I really want to see him speed up his outside shooting motion to something more reflexive, less tentative. I think his slow motion leads to him aiming the ball instead of just trusting his shot and letting it go.