George Zimmerman trial

[Mac]

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[southernflyer]

I have thought about disabled porn. I mean everyone would want to see that, it could be my 2 girls one cup.

Are you talking basic wheelchair sex, or mandingo pounding a midget amputee across the room so hard that she falls out of her prosthetic legs?

 

[Cashius X]

When the operator says "We don't need you to do that" George responds by saying "OK" and the heavy breathing stops after 13 seconds pass. George is then on the phone with the operator for another 1:33. He stopped following Trayvon and at this point is just observing the area. Trayvon had nearly 4 minutes to run 100 yards yet finds himself 70 yards from his Dad's girlfriends house and 35 yards from Zimmermans truck.

The only way this happens is if he doubled back to confront "Creepy ass, kill-my-neighbor, cracker".

Or maybe Trayvon didn't want to lead the man who appeared to be stalking him to his house? Ever think of that genius?

 

[Frank Reynolds]

Thought I'd share an interesting story. My father has allowed me to shoot guns since I was 7 years old. He taught me to respect the power of a gun, the same way you would a motorcycle or other powerful tool.

When Ohio concealed carry passed, he and my sister were some of the first concealed handgun carriers in Ohio.

He's riding his bike a few months ago, and he notices a group of three black kids walking up and down our street, scoping out people's houses. All three were dressed in all black, but you could see their white shirt cuffs underneath.

He didn't have his gun on him when he went on the bike ride, and he didn't have his cell phone either. He already said he would have never drawn the gun, even if he had it on him, because then he'd be FORCED into a bad situation where he might end up using it. Rather than deploy street justice, he wasn't even going to put himself in that situation because he's smart.

He's done a couple other crazy vigilante things in the past, and he's genuinely a great citizen, the kind of guy you'd want in your neighborhood.

He's smart, he knew that distance was the only surefire way to prevent a confrontation with these kids. He took a different approach than Zimmerman.

He plays the role of neighborhood watch guy, coming off with the tone that he's just trying to help them find their way.

Asks the kid if he's lost?

kid gives him some BS story that they're trying to find a friends house.

Allows the kids to walk down the street further, sees they're scoping out houses. He keeps his distance on his bicycle and watches them from afar. In the meantime, he goes down the next street behind us, cuts through our backyard so he can get his cell phone.

My dad gets back on the bike with his phone and comes back around the street to observe these kids once again.

Eventually they walk to the back door of my elderly next door neighbors house. They don't think she's home, because her car is parked inside of the detached garage with no windows. They are peeping in all her windows, scoping the place out. My dad shows up again at her front yard on the bicycle.

Kid eventually confronts my father and asks him "you stalking me bro?"

"No, but you look lost, can I help you find something? What address are you looking for?"

"1347 Case," the kid quickly mutters.

"Oh that's funny, there's no such address on this street, it's okay, you can explain it to the cops, because they're on their way!"

Kid gets real mouthy and pissed that my father foiled their plan. All three kids start power walking and cut through my neighbors backyard into the shopping plaza behind my street. My dad pedaled away quickly to maintain the distance between them.

Cops never found the kids, but I see a lot of similarities here with the Zimmerman case.

Difference is, George Zimmerman confronted the kid up close, my father kept his distance.

Three young kids in their 20's vs one 55 year old Italian guy.... Guess who wins that fight?

If my dad pulls his gun on them, he's gonna be forced to use it, because if he threatens them with it and doesn't pull the trigger at least once to scare them away.... they might wrestle it away and use it against him.

Lesson is, let the police do their job. Keep a safe distance, report this kind of shit to the cops.

Unless that is, you don't want to be a "snitch", and you'd prefer the streets to patrol themselves.

 

[JSS2306]

Or maybe Trayvon didn't want to lead the man who appeared to be stalking him to his house? Ever think of that genius?

Yeah because people who are so scared they run away always end up doubling back so the person they just completely lost doesn't know where they live (Trayvon didn't even live there nor did his father). Makes complete sense.

Re-read the paragraph, grab a map, and do the math. It doesn't make any sense that Trayvon went back and confronted Zimmerman at seemingly the same spot he took off running.

It's time to come to terms with the fact that George is not guilty. You're in denial but you'll get over it.

Meanwhile, Zimmerman helped a save a family after their vehicle overturned:



SANFORD, Fla. — Channel 9 has learned George Zimmerman helped rescue a family from their overturned SUV in Seminole County last week.
A man, woman and their two children were in the SUV when it crashed about 5:45 p.m. Wednesday in near Interstate 4 and SR-46 in Sanford.
When deputies arrived, they said Zimmerman and another man had already helped the victims out of the wreckage.
Authorities said Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after making contact with the deputy.
None of the victims suffered serious injuries.
Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder earlier this month in the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/national/george-zimmerman-helps-rescue-family-overturned-ve/nYy68/

 

[3 Da Hard Way]

just a week ago in court he was a fat obese slouch who couldn't even raise his arm to throw a punch but now he's rescuing multiple people from an overturned truck that was possibly on fire? :chuckles:

 

[JSS2306]

Obama Voted to Strengthen Illinois' Stand Your Ground Law in 2004 - Will Media Care?
By Noel Sheppard | July 22, 2013 | 15:29



As NewsBusters has been reporting, it's been absolutely sick-making watching Obama-loving media members gush and fawn over the President's speech Friday concerning race, the George Zimmerman verdict, and Florida's Stand Your Ground law.

But will they report to the American people that as an Illinois state senator in 2004, Obama co-sponsored and voted for legislation strengthening his state's Stand Your Ground law?

Here's what President Obama said Friday:

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: I know that there's been commentary about the fact that the "Stand Your Ground" laws in Florida were not used as a defense in the case.
On the other hand, if we're sending a message as a society in our communities that someone who is armed potentially has the right to use those firearms, even if there's a way for them to exit from a situation, is that really going to be contributing to the kind of peace and security and order that we'd like to see?
And for those who -- who resist that idea, that we should think about something like these Stand Your Ground laws, I just ask people to consider, if Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk? And do we actually think that he would have been justified in shooting Mr. Zimmerman, who had followed him in a car, because he felt threatened? And if the answer to that question is at least ambiguous, then it seems to me that we might want to examine those kinds of laws.
Yet this is what National Review's John Fund discovered Monday:

But the Illinois Review says Obama didn’t seem to have any of those concerns when in 2004 he co-sponsored S.B. 2386, which broadened the state’s Stand Your Ground law “by shielding the person who was attacked from being sued in civil court by perpetrators or their estates when a ’stand your ground’ defense is used in protecting his or her person, dwelling or other property.”
S.B. 2386 passed the Illinois state senate by a 56–0 vote on March 25, 2004. It sailed through the state house with only two “nay” votes. Both chambers were controlled by Democrats.
One quite imagines Obama-loving media members ignoring this inconvenient truth. Here's some more of Fund's findings they'll likely omit from their reporting:

A third of Florida’s Stand Your Ground claims in homicide cases are made by African-Americans, a rate nearly double the black percentage of the state’s population. The majority of those claims have been successful, a success rate that exceeds that of Florida whites.


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...your-ground-law-2004-will-media#ixzz2ZoY3BD56


It just keeps getting better and better. You can't make this shit up.

 

[The Voice]

Thought I'd share an interesting story. My father has allowed me to shoot guns since I was 7 years old. He taught me to respect the power of a gun, the same way you would a motorcycle or other powerful tool.

When Ohio concealed carry passed, he and my sister were some of the first concealed handgun carriers in Ohio.

He's riding his bike a few months ago, and he notices a group of three black kids walking up and down our street, scoping out people's houses. All three were dressed in all black, but you could see their white shirt cuffs underneath.

He didn't have his gun on him when he went on the bike ride, and he didn't have his cell phone either. He already said he would have never drawn the gun, even if he had it on him, because then he'd be FORCED into a bad situation where he might end up using it. Rather than deploy street justice, he wasn't even going to put himself in that situation because he's smart.

He's done a couple other crazy vigilante things in the past, and he's genuinely a great citizen, the kind of guy you'd want in your neighborhood.

He's smart, he knew that distance was the only surefire way to prevent a confrontation with these kids. He took a different approach than Zimmerman.

He plays the role of neighborhood watch guy, coming off with the tone that he's just trying to help them find their way.

Asks the kid if he's lost?

kid gives him some BS story that they're trying to find a friends house.

Allows the kids to walk down the street further, sees they're scoping out houses. He keeps his distance on his bicycle and watches them from afar. In the meantime, he goes down the next street behind us, cuts through our backyard so he can get his cell phone.

My dad gets back on the bike with his phone and comes back around the street to observe these kids once again.

Eventually they walk to the back door of my elderly next door neighbors house. They don't think she's home, because her car is parked inside of the detached garage with no windows. They are peeping in all her windows, scoping the place out. My dad shows up again at her front yard on the bicycle.

Kid eventually confronts my father and asks him "you stalking me bro?"

"No, but you look lost, can I help you find something? What address are you looking for?"

"1347 Case," the kid quickly mutters.

"Oh that's funny, there's no such address on this street, it's okay, you can explain it to the cops, because they're on their way!"

Kid gets real mouthy and pissed that my father foiled their plan. All three kids start power walking and cut through my neighbors backyard into the shopping plaza behind my street. My dad pedaled away quickly to maintain the distance between them.

Cops never found the kids, but I see a lot of similarities here with the Zimmerman case.

Difference is, George Zimmerman confronted the kid up close, my father kept his distance.

Three young kids in their 20's vs one 55 year old Italian guy.... Guess who wins that fight?

If my dad pulls his gun on them, he's gonna be forced to use it, because if he threatens them with it and doesn't pull the trigger at least once to scare them away.... they might wrestle it away and use it against him.

Lesson is, let the police do their job. Keep a safe distance, report this kind of shit to the cops.

Unless that is, you don't want to be a "snitch", and you'd prefer the streets to patrol themselves.

I read that Martin confronted Zimmerman, not the other way around.

Or maybe Trayvon didn't want to lead the man who appeared to be stalking him to his house? Ever think of that genius?

Why didn't Trayvon call the cops?

 

[JSS2306]

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[JSS2306]

just a week ago in court he was a fat obese slouch who couldn't even raise his arm to throw a punch but now he's rescuing multiple people from an overturned truck that was possibly on fire? :chuckles:

Yeah? Seems to me like he was the same guy who stood up for Sherman Ware, a homeless black man, when a Sanford police officers son relentlessly beat the shit out of him for no reason.

[video=youtube;6Gs4-SIqVP0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gs4-SIqVP0[/video]

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN DEMANDED DISCIPLINE IN RACIALLY TINGED 2010 POLICE CORRUPTION CASE
Apr. 11, 2012 7:40pm Mytheos Holt



Long before he was the alleged cold-blooded racist monster who shot Trayvon Martin allegedly due to subconscious bigotry (and is now being brought up on charges for precisely that), George Zimmerman was a crusader for racial justice himself, according to a report by Daily Caller reporter Matthew Boyle.

A little background is necessary. Back in December of 2010, a homeless man named Sherman Ware was attacked and punched in the nose by an assailant who turned out to be none other than the son of a police officer. Mysteriously, he was never arrested, though unlike the current case, it wasn’t for lack of evidence. Someone had actually caught him doing it on tape:



Given the characterization of George Zimmerman by some segments of the media, one would expect that he had either done nothing in response to this incident, or quietly approved of the beating because the homeless (black) Ware had had it coming. As it turns out, nothing could be further from the truth. From Boyle’s report:

After Justin Collison surrendered himself to authorities, the Sanford Police Department struggled to hold its officials accountable. A lengthy investigation conducted by the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office concluded that the police officials involved did not offer Justin Collison “preferential treatment.”

Still, according to members of the Zimmerman family, George printed and distributed copies of fliers on bright fluorescent-colored paper demanding that the community “hold accountable” officers responsible for any misconduct. TheDC has obtained a copy of one of those fliers.

Here is the flier in question:


WHAT CAN YOU DO?
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”- Edmund Burke
We live in an era where, a simple grass roots movement propelled by the discontentedconstituents of leaders, whom were entrusted with our safety, can and shall make a significantimpact.Chief of Police Tooley blatantly lied. He attempted to appease the masses by stating thathe was “blindsided” by the medias release of this monsters attack on an innocent, homeless andpeacekeeping bystander.It has already been revealed that Chief Tooley not only received an email petitioning hisattention to the matter on behalf of the Seminole County Sheriffs Office, yet he was alsoprovided with the video taped evidence of the attack and chose to do nothing but pass the buck in hope that the problem would simply go away.Mr. Hargrett's feeble attempt to patronize the public by stating that Lieutenant Collison'sson did not receive any preferential treatment is nothing short of irritating and belittles ourintelligence. There are only two possible explanations, either Lieutenant Collison's son receivedpreferential treatment, or Sanford PD always neglects to handcuffs and does not arrestassailants of innocent victims, neither of the two are acceptable, so clearly you are a liar Mr.Hargrett.I challenge you reading this to stand together and not “simply go away” as Chief Tooleyand his corrupt subordinates wish, but to have our voices heard and to hold accountable thosewhom let this atrocious attack pass unpunished until the media revealed it. This animal couldhave attacked anyone of us, our children or loved ones in his alcohol fueled rage.Chief Tooley has already proved his incompetence and willingness to lie to the publicand “circle the wagons” in order to protect his corrupt police officers. We must now be heardby his superiors, the Sanford City Mayor Elect, Jeff Triplett, the three continuing members of the City of Sanford City Commission and Commissioner Elect Mark McCarty will beconducting a Workshop and Open Forum on Saturday, January 8, 2011, from 10:00a.m. untilapproximately 1:00p.m., in the Railroad Depot Room, located on the 2nd Floor of Sanford CityHall, 300 North Park Avenue, Sanford, Florida. Please attend, voice your concern, and demandaccountability from all whom participated in this illegal cover-up.

You can also mail the Governor of FL and request that the state investigate this attack at:
Office of GovernorState of Florida TheCapitol400 S. Monroe St.Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
Or Call the Governors office at
(850) 488-4441



Citizens of Sanford, Read me, Demand accountability and be heard.
Story as Reported by WFTV:
Sanford's Police Chief Brian Tooley told WFTV Friday he was blindsided by a video of an officer's son knocking out a homeless man. An e-mail was sent to Tooley by thesheriff's office and included a link to video of the fight.Tooley then forwarded the e-mail to a top assistant, four days after the fight, but hislieutenant's son, Justin Collison, was still never arrested.There's a warrant for Collision's arrest, but he's still not in jail. Collison's lawyer toldWFTV that it's not for lack of trying. Both his lawyer and another source confirmed thatCollison tried to turn himself into the jail Thursday.However, since
Sanford police
hadn't put his warrant in the system, the jail turned himaway. That was more than 12 hours after the judge signed it, officials said.

Cindy Collison closed her garage door Friday without answering the question so manywant to know about her son: When is he going to turn himself in?Collison is seen in amateur video sucker-punching a homeless man.Thursday, Chief Tooley said he never saw the troubling video until WFTV aired it."We did see that on Channel 9. I wish I had seen that tape three weeks earlier. Wewould've avoided a lot of this angst and anxiety obviously in our community," Tooleysaid.
However, WFTV learned on Friday that Chief Tooley could have seen the videoweeks ago when the e-mail was sent specifically to him, just three days after thefight.
The subject line read, "Justin Collison Crimeline Tip Info" and it included a YouTubelink to the video plus Sanford Police Department's case number.Tooley forwarded the e-mail to a top deputy writing,
"Pls have an investigator reviewthis video...handle appropriately."

But apparently,
the follow-up he requested never happened
, until WFTV got involved.

The Attack happened on December 4
th
, as of Today, January 2nd the attacker walks free.

 

[Tlyons]

George is that you?

 

[QuadrupleDouble]

But he did it because he's racist!

He probably only tried to get justice for the homeless man to ease his guilty feelings caused by his latent racism.

This is seriously getting dumber and dumber with all the racism shit. It's media fed and needs to stop.

 

[Tlyons]

Let's face it. Making Zimmerman a fat slob was brilliant. He looked like he couldn't wipe his own ass, let alone defend himself.


So Zimmerman is seen as a guilty man and should fear for his life while walking down the street? Damn, he went from White to Latino and ended up Black.

 

[Cashius X]

Yeah because people who are so scared they run away always end up doubling back so the person they just completely lost doesn't know where they live (Trayvon didn't even live there nor did his father). Makes complete sense.

Re-read the paragraph, grab a map, and do the math. It doesn't make any sense that Trayvon went back and confronted Zimmerman at seemingly the same spot he took off running.

It's time to come to terms with the fact that George is not guilty. You're in denial but you'll get over it.

Meanwhile, Zimmerman helped a save a family after their vehicle overturned:



SANFORD, Fla. — Channel 9 has learned George Zimmerman helped rescue a family from their overturned SUV in Seminole County last week.
A man, woman and their two children were in the SUV when it crashed about 5:45 p.m. Wednesday in near Interstate 4 and SR-46 in Sanford.
When deputies arrived, they said Zimmerman and another man had already helped the victims out of the wreckage.
Authorities said Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after making contact with the deputy.
None of the victims suffered serious injuries.
Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder earlier this month in the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/national/george-zimmerman-helps-rescue-family-overturned-ve/nYy68/

I'm not in denial. I honestly don't really give a fuck. I think it's obvious that Zimmerman committed a crime and should have received SOME form of punishment but I'm not losing any sleep over the verdict. I didn't follow the trial and I'm not too familiar with all the details about the case. All I know are the OBVIOUS AND FACTUAL details that everybody has been made aware of.

George Zimmerman was a "neighborhood watchman" or whatever

The police told him not to pursue but he did anyway.

He didn't have to follow Trayvon in the first place. It's kinda obvious that Trayvon was being racially profiled.

And honestly if he was a neighborhood watchman or whatever why did he need to have a gun? Couldn't he have just carried around a taser or something that isn't lethal like mace as a means to defend himself?

 

[David.]

why is it obvious he was racially profiled? This is a really bad neighborhood, if he wants to bring a gun with, thats on him. He more than likely stopped pursuing martin. The rest of your post, I agree with