Hue Jackson and Todd Haley Fired

[buzzdog]

Hue has been criticized for doing a bad job contesting referee calls and wasting time outs. He made a good one in London.

Hue has been criticized for benching Kizer. Kizer takes care of the ball and Hue leaves him in the whole game.

Is this progress?

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

Hue has been criticized for doing a bad job contesting referee calls and wasting time outs. He made a good one in London.

Hue has been criticized for benching Kizer. Kizer takes care of the ball and Hue leaves him in the whole game.

Is this progress?

What...

He sticks to the same QB for 4 quarters and we want to praise that

I genuinely don't know if the bar can get any lower than it currently is

 

[buzzdog]

What...

He sticks to the same QB for 4 quarters and we want to praise that

I genuinely don't know if the bar can get any lower than it currently is

He gets crucified for pulling the guy when he single handedly costs us potential wins. He uses benching as a corrective measure to make sure Kizer knows he isn't getting a free pass, and people want to use that as grounds for firing Hue.

Why is the reverse not true?

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

He gets crucified for pulling the guy when he single handedly costs us potential wins. He uses benching as a corrective measure to make sure Kizer knows he isn't getting a free pass, and people want to use that as grounds for firing Hue.

Why is the reverse not true?

Because it's fucking expected to not do it in the first place

Wow Hue is making great strides by not doing the idiotic things he constantly does over a 60 minute stretch

Benching Kizer as a corrective measure. Literally lmao.

 

[Los216]

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[buzzdog]

Because it's fucking expected to not do it in the first place

Wow Hue is making great strides by not doing the idiotic things he constantly does over a 60 minute stretch

Benching Kizer as a corrective measure. Literally lmao.

You're pretty fucking clueless. You don't think that benching Kizer had any value, right after Kizer FINALLY gets through a single game without personally costing the Browns a win.

I can blame a lot of things for what is wrong with this season. I can blame Greg Williams playing his free safety so deep we're literally playing 10 against 11 on defense. I can blame the way Hue designs and calls plays. I can definitely blame penalties and a lack of discipline on coaching, although the Vikings game was a huge improvement (pass interference notwithstanding).

I can blame the front office for our complete lack of receiving talent and offensive weapons. I can blame the front office for not keeping a veteran quarterback as at least an option so Kizer could be handled differently.

But Hue benching Kizer when he completely and repeatedly fucks up, literally costing us games? You go ahead and crucify Hue for that, I sure as hell won't.

 

[CBBI]

Hue has been criticized for doing a bad job contesting referee calls and wasting time outs. He made a good one in London.

Hue has been criticized for benching Kizer. Kizer takes care of the ball and Hue leaves him in the whole game.

Is this progress?

Don't get it twisted.

Hue is criticized because he's 1-23 as the head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

Anything else is just window dressing.

 

[buzzdog]

Don't get it twisted.

Hue is criticized because he's 1-23 as the head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

Anything else is just window dressing.

That is valid enough. The only difference is for me that blame falls on everyone from Jimmy Haslam, right on down through Sashi, and right down to Hue and the players themselves.

Hue absolutely shares a big chunk of it but he isn't the only reason we suck and I'm not sure cleaning house will fix everything.

 

[Phills14]

In the end it didn't matter but Hue Jackson single handily cost us 3 points at the end of the 1st half. Both teams had 3 time outs remaining. It was 3rd down and goal from the 1 foot line and 42 seconds left. We called a time out early in the play clock. Calling a time out was fine but there was NO need to call it immediately. Wait for the clock to burn down. You need to run 2 plays from the 1 foot line. It's going to take considerably less than 42 seconds. Because he did that, he gave Minnesota the ball with 3 timeouts and 35 seconds to go in the half. The Browns being the Browns, bent and allowed them to march down the field for a FG. There should have been almost no time left or at least Minnesota should have burned a time out or 2.

 

[buzzdog]

In the end it didn't matter but Hue Jackson single handily cost us 3 points at the end of the 1st half. Both teams had 3 time outs remaining. It was 3rd down and goal from the 1 foot line and 42 seconds left. We called a time out early in the play clock. Calling a time out was fine but there was NO need to call it immediately. Wait for the clock to burn down. You need to run 2 plays from the 1 foot line. It's going to take considerably less than 42 seconds. Because he did that, he gave Minnesota the ball with 3 timeouts and 35 seconds to go in the half. The Browns being the Browns, bent and allowed them to march down the field for a FG. There should have been almost no time left or at least Minnesota should have burned a time out or 2.

You're right about this, Hue totally fucked this decision up. I hate to say it but it still amounts to fewer fuck-ups on Hue's part than what we've seen in pretty much every game this year.

I wish this could have been stuff to say about Hue much earlier in the season, and it is pretty late to be looking for any silver linings. But that's where I'm at. Looking for any signs of Hue and Kizer and the rest of the team turning some kind of corner, having some signs of a light coming on.

 

[vam1993]

You're right about this, Hue totally fucked this decision up. I hate to say it but it still amounts to fewer fuck-ups on Hue's part than what we've seen in pretty much every game this year.

I wish this could have been stuff to say about Hue much earlier in the season, and it is pretty late to be looking for any silver linings. But that's where I'm at. Looking for any signs of Hue and Kizer and the rest of the team turning some kind of corner, having some signs of a light coming on.

these are the kinds of things that i think he may improve on if he wasnt trying to be the offensive coordinator and head coach. I think eventually this seaso hes going to have to give up his offensive responsibilities on gameday.

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[buzzdog]

these are the kinds of things that i think he may improve on if he wasnt trying to be the offensive coordinator and head coach. I think eventually this seaso hes going to have to give up his offensive responsibilities on gameday.

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I agree 100% that Hue should just focus on being the best head coach he can be, and delegate the offensive coordinator and play calling to someone else.

 

[buzzdog]

If Hue had someone else calling the plays that doesn't mean he couldn't make some suggestions when he sees a certain weakness or wants to try a certain play or area of emphasis. The OC / play caller would still be reporting directly to Hue. Sashi or Jimmy or somebody needs to tell Hue this, get it across, and make it happen.

 

[CBBI]

The odds of Hue giving up play calling duties seems non-existent.

 

[shoes22]

The odds of Hue giving up play calling duties seems non-existent.

He should probably say goodbye to his job then.