If good enough, what game mark should we trade our '12 pick for talent?

[Chris]

Actually, as disappointing and odd as this was to find out for myself, "hanged" is the proper past-tense form of "hang." Hung, while also a word, was primarily invented to refer to juries and such. Most news outlets will use "hanged" when referring to suicides because it is technically the right word.

Oh, and this shit is retarded. This is hypothetical bullshit that doesn't belong on this board. Gay or a similar player will no launch us into championship contention under any condition (this season) and a deal like that would only make us lose assets while our future assets are diminished by raising the record of this team to a mediocre level versus a terrible level.

I missed that, thanks for having my back. :chuckles:

 

[Real Deal]

To hell with this thread already.

Everyone needs to evacuate, im cookin' it!

 

[Phills14]

Last nights game vs. Toronto is a good example why we will not be a playoff team this season. We will have a lot of clunkers like this.

Regarding Tristan Thompson, it's way to early to be talking about ceilings and floors. Most times rookies come in and have to adjust to the pro game. However; sometimes rookies come in and the league has to adjust to them. I think Tristan is one of those guys where the defense is going to have to adjust to his activity to slow him down. To give some perspective, Dajuan Wagner's first 11 games he was averaging 20ppg including 6 games over 25points. The league figured out his left hand was sown to his hip and shut him down for the remaining 92 games of his career. I'm in no way saying TT is going to have the same career trajectory as Wagner, just pointing out that we thought we had an allstar through the 1st 2 months of Wagner's rookie year and it turns out our initial impression was way off base.

 

[Limping Puppy]

Last nights game vs. Toronto is a good example why we will not be a playoff team this season. We will have a lot of clunkers like this.

Regarding Tristan Thompson, it's way to early to be talking about ceilings and floors. Most times rookies come in and have to adjust to the pro game. However; sometimes rookies come in and the league has to adjust to them. I think Tristan is one of those guys where the defense is going to have to adjust to his activity to slow him down. To give some perspective, Dajuan Wagner's first 11 games he was averaging 20ppg including 6 games over 25points. The league figured out his left hand was sown to his hip and shut him down for the remaining 92 games of his career. I'm in no way saying TT is going to have the same career trajectory as Wagner, just pointing out that we thought we had an allstar through the 1st 2 months of Wagner's rookie year and it turns out our initial impression was way off base.

The only problem with this post is this was the Cavs first b2b of the year. Hold off making any judgments from this game. Cavs still defended well and the Raps made some crazy shots.

 

[wuck]

The only problem with this post is this was the Cavs first b2b of the year.

The Cavs have 20 more games this year that follow a game the previous night (18 back-to-backs, 1 back-to-back-to-back). 1/3 of their remaining games.

They may get a little better at back-to-backs, but the schedule is pretty brutal.

 

[Mdog1]

Actually, as disappointing and odd as this was to find out for myself, "hanged" is the proper past-tense form of "hang." Hung, while also a word, was primarily invented to refer to juries and such. Most news outlets will use "hanged" when referring to suicides because it is technically the right word.

You're fucking me. Right?

 

[Randolphkeys]

The Cavs have 20 more games this year that follow a game the previous night (18 back-to-backs, 1 back-to-back-to-back). 1/3 of their remaining games.

They may get a little better at back-to-backs, but the schedule is pretty brutal.

Everyone's schedule is brutal this season due to the shortened time frame, but I agree. Several posters said the Cavs had a comparatively easy beginning to the year with spacing between games and a home stand. To say that the first five games are normal and the Toronto road game was an anomaly is misleading.

 

[Kouki]

In retrospect, what if we could have gotten a Rudy Gay in LeBron's second season in the league?

 

[Mdog1]

In retrospect, what if we could have gotten a Rudy Gay in LeBron's second season in the league?

Absolutely. It would have been fantastic, but we got Luke Jackson.

 

[Randolphkeys]

In retrospect, what if we could have gotten a Rudy Gay in LeBron's second season in the league?

Paxson tried to trade for him, and his names were Darius Miles, Jiri Welsch, and Sasha Pavlovic.

In retrospect, why couldn't Jim Paxson find one lottery worthy player to draft in his seven years drafting in the lottery besides Andre Miller and LBJ.

 

[Kouki]

What I mean is, say we were at 50% wins in LeBron's second year in the league. Would you have traded away a future draft pick for a five year vet who is 26 years old who is a proven 20 ppg scorer?

 

[Randolphkeys]

What I mean is, say we were at 50% wins in LeBron's second year in the league. Would you have traded away a future draft pick for a five year vet who is 26 years old who is a proven 20 ppg scorer?

You mean Larry Hughes?

 

[bubba52782]

However unlikely it is, I'm asking if it happens, what record FOR YOU would the Cavs have to have to validate trading the pick for established talent, particularly if that talent can help you this season and beyond??

61-1...well crap. Guess that puts this argument to bed

 

[Phills14]

The only problem with this post is this was the Cavs first b2b of the year. Hold off making any judgments from this game. Cavs still defended well and the Raps made some crazy shots.

Young team + lots of back to backs = a lot of clunkers.

Simple math.

 

[Limping Puppy]

You mean Larry Hughes?

Gay is the quintessential 20 point scorer. There is no comparison between Gay and Hughes.