Silky Smooth
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Im not saying you are lying but it's not there. I believe you though.
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J.J. Hickson
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Im not saying you are lying but it's not there. I believe you though.
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Damn,i was foiled again. Congratulations. I admit it; I make shit up for prosperity and to gain rep points.
Just posting what I saw; stop being a dickhead.
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No, it's not anymore. Which I admit, is weird, considering Windy never deletes shit from his twitter or hides stuff. I really wish I could go back and grab a screen shot. Unfortunately, I'm not that gifted with the Mac
thecrowning
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I believe you man, and hope to God it will happen. Its pretty clear that Hickson ceiling is no higher than Drew Gooden without the rebounding.
Wow, some of you are really getting down on the 21 year old kid who came into the league last year raw as hell. I'm not praising him or calling him the next Karl Malone or anything like that, but I think that with time, he can become a very good player for this team.
Take a guy like Al Jefferson, the player who JJ has been compared to since the draft. His numbers during his second year? 7.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 49.9 fg% with 18 mpg (6.5 shot attempts per game). JJ is at 7.1 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 55.2 fg% with 18.8 mpg (5.3 shot attempts per game).
What's my point? Let him develop before we call him a bust. He has a lot to learn and a long way to go but he can be a real good player next to LeBron. If he is what makes or breaks a deal for a Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire, or Chris Paul type player, add him in without hesitation, but otherwise, stay positive with him.
Take a guy like Al Jefferson, the player who JJ has been compared to since the draft. His numbers during his second year? 7.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 49.9 fg% with 18 mpg (6.5 shot attempts per game). JJ is at 7.1 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 55.2 fg% with 18.8 mpg (5.3 shot attempts per game).
What's my point? Let him develop before we call him a bust. He has a lot to learn and a long way to go but he can be a real good player next to LeBron. If he is what makes or breaks a deal for a Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire, or Chris Paul type player, add him in without hesitation, but otherwise, stay positive with him.
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AJ had absolutely nothing to work with. He showed promise the year prior to being dealt, which was why Minny traded him. If JJ can garner us a KG type player, I'd be hard pressed to find anyone that wouldn't want Ferry to pull the trigger.
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Some of the worst hands I've ever seen.
Which is exactly what I'm saying.... Jefferson in his second year was statistically almost equal with JJ, but now he is a border-line all-star.
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Al was hurt for a large part of his second season I believe: he only played in 59 games
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Honestly, being "statistically equal" just shows you how unreliable statistic can be if you actually recall how Al Jefferson played in his 2nd season vs Hickson, especially considering what was required of them.
Al Jefferson was on a bad Celtics team which didn't have much weapons and when he scored, he scored with opposing defense actually paying attention to him. I still remember when the Cavs played them, then with a bit of bad blood already (PP spitting on Cavs bench and such), I notice how Al Jefferson could be real good some day, the consisentency he exhibit and some post moves that actually got Z in trouble a lot of times.
Hickson on the other hand, had Lebron and Shaq that draws the attention away from him. Take away his open dunks resulted from such, and put him in Jefferson spot, he would not see the floor much, and even if he does I can't imagine him with remotely close stats.
As you say, Hickson was very raw, it is just that he IS still very raw, and I don't see too many bright spots or glimpses of greatness of what he could become. I simply don't. I think he is in a very valuable situation, and he is not showing he knows it. In a team, with so much talent around him, and a coach like that, he will have a place and we won't be having this thread if he just do 2 things, and 2 things only. Hustle and rebound, that doesn't require much bball iq, but even that I don't see that from him on a consistent basis.
Now, we have all the veterans to baby sit him during the regular season, to pull him back on track from time to time. But when the going gets tough in the playoffs, no one should divert any focus or energy on him. Right now, Hickson has not shown much progress and i honestly dont think he belongs here with his learning curve being so steep.
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Okay, so I'm no expert, but here is what I see JJ's situation as.
We got him knowing he had supreme talent that, if harnessed, could make him a huge upgrade in our front court. He's been given the chance to blossom into the player the Cavs need him to be, but unfortunately his progression hasn't run parallel to the timeline of the team. The team's championship run > waiting for JJ to fit. Thus, it is time for the Cavs to move on from the JJ Hickson project. He still can be a good player in the league, but the Cavs' plans have dictated that the opportunity doesn't lie with us. Again, unfortunate, but it is where we're at right now.
We got him knowing he had supreme talent that, if harnessed, could make him a huge upgrade in our front court. He's been given the chance to blossom into the player the Cavs need him to be, but unfortunately his progression hasn't run parallel to the timeline of the team. The team's championship run > waiting for JJ to fit. Thus, it is time for the Cavs to move on from the JJ Hickson project. He still can be a good player in the league, but the Cavs' plans have dictated that the opportunity doesn't lie with us. Again, unfortunate, but it is where we're at right now.