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Jamario Moon (Heat decline offer)

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Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet

From Hollinger:

SEASON | FG% | FT% | P/40 | R/40 | A/40 | TS% | Ast | TO | Usg | Reb | PER
2007-08 | .485 | .741 | 12.2 | 8.9 | 1.7 | 54.0 | 11.9 | 6.8 | 13.1 | 13.2 | 15.21
2008-09 | .468 | .850 | 11.2 | 7.1 | 1.8 | 56.7 | 14.7 | 6.6 | 10.9 | 10.4 | 13.35

2007-08 season: He might as well have been playing on the moon. The Raptors found him as a 27-year-old, after Moon had spent several years vagabonding through the netherworld of basketball's minor leagues.

Moon came from nowhere to take over the starting small forward job and gave the Raptors two things they desperately needed -- rebounding and shot-blocking. He led all small forwards in both overall rebound rate and defensive rebound rate, and ranked second at the position in blocks per minute.

While he wasn't asked to do much offensively -- his usage rate was only 54th among the league's 63 small forwards -- he was at least somewhat competent from outside, hitting 32.8 percent of his 3-point attempts. And when he went to the rim he was money. Moon made 66.7 percent of his shots in the immediate basket area, the eighth-best mark in the league. Among perimeter players, only LeBron James and Grant Hill were better.

However, for a player this athletic his free-throw tally was disappointing -- just 1.1 per game, and 55th among small forwards in free-throw attempts per field-goal attempt.

Scouting report: An outstanding leaper who was invited to the dunk contest, Moon is dangerous in transition and on alley-oop plays in the half court. He's also a decent midrange shooter (41.1 percent on long 2s last year) and foul shooter, so opponents have to play him for that.

They can close out hard, though, because Moon is a weak ball handler who rarely drives off the dribble. This did help keep his turnover rate quite low, however. Also, Moon fell in love with the J at times and would launch ill-advised tries early in the shot clock.

Defensively, Moon is still figuring out what he's doing but is a strong one-on-one defender. Because of his length he's great at stealing entry passes thrown by his own man, and he can play power forward in smallball arrangements (though, at 205 pounds, not in traditional lineups).

2008-09 outlook: Moon is 28 years old, so we're not talking about the typical second-year progression here. However, the added year of NBA experience should allow him to build on last season's success, especially at the defensive end. The starting small forward job appears to be his to lose, which is a shocking turn of events given where he was a year ago.

Most similar at age: Shane Battier

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Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet

This kid can dunk, and the Cavs can use another dunkerr
 
Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet

I don't want this fool... I've seen him play before. He is very athletic yes. But he takes so many ill advised jumpers and is a terrible shooter. I don't see how anyone here who has ripped on Kinsey would want this guy. They are essentially the same, Moon just seeing more playing time because he was on two mediocre teams.

You won't have to worry about ill advised jumpers here, as he'll be playing off of LBJ & Shaq and won't have the ball in his hands nearly as much as in Miami..

And he is not as terrible a shooter as you say..
 
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I dont really know what to say except: I like it. He definitely doesnt hurt the team and makes the bench better.
 
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Nice, this came out of nowhere.

Do you think the Heat will match the offer?
 
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Parker and Moon are both sound defensively. This is only going to make us that much better in that department. If this goes through, this offseason we essentially swapped Ben, Sasha and Wally for Shaq, Parker and Moon....I'll take that.
 
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You won't have to worry about ill advised jumpers here, as he'll be playing off of LBJ & Shaq and won't have the ball in his hands nearly as much as in Miami..

And he is not as terrible a shooter as you say..

Agreed.

To everyone worried about him taking terrible jumpers and being another "Kinsey", just read Hollingers scouting report, posted above by Smooth.

This was a defensive signing. He brings great rebounding, shot blocking and another long wing to match up with the athletic 3s and 4s of the Magic, Heat and Lakers.

Great signing for little money that came out of nowhere. A+ for Ferry in my eyes. Not to mention you don't have to worry about the technicals and horseplay involved with Barnes.
 
Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet

The Heat would be crazy not to match. They aren't getting Odom - he will be back with LA. IMO, a sage move by Danny that was similar to what Phil Savage did to the Ravens a couple years ago.
 
Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet

I don't want this fool... I've seen him play before. He is very athletic yes. But he takes so many ill advised jumpers and is a terrible shooter. I don't see how anyone here who has ripped on Kinsey would want this guy. They are essentially the same, Moon just seeing more playing time because he was on two mediocre teams.

So when you watched him play before did you actually pay any attention? Just look at their career stats...not really the same player at all.

Tarence Kinsey 6'6" 185 lbs
FG% .453
FT% .817
3P% .324
AST 0.5
RBD 1.3
STL 0.6
BLK 0.0
PPG 4.7


Jamario Moon 6'8" 205 lbs
FG% .478
FT% .794
3P% .344
AST 1.2
RBD 5.4
STL 1.1
BLK 1.1
PPG 7.8


The difference is the things you probably wouldn't notice just watching 1 game. Moon plays pretty decent defense, plays the passing lanes reasonably well and has the ability to block a shot or two. He's also not afraid to stick his nose in the mix to grab some rebounds.

Blanket statements like he's a "terrible shooter" are just asinine when you consider he shot 0.468 from the field last year and Mo Williams, who we'd all consider a pretty good shooter I'd assume, shot 0.467.
 
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Some highlight vids:

JAMARIO MOON TOP 10 DUNKS

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Dude has a ton of mixes on YouTube.. :chuckles:
 
Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet

Real nice adding more depth, odom could affect this if the heat don't sign him though.
 
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Sweet, this dude is much better then any of the fools some people around here wanted, myself included.
 
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I've got a gut feeling that Mo may have had some influence with this ...I've gotta make some calls once I'm free to make some calls.
 
Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet

Obviously the cavs wanted this kept very quiet (if true). The leak came from the NBA league office and not from the cavs or moon's camp. Not sure of the reasoning....perhaps concerned other teams might comeout of the wood-work before he signed the offer. In any event, how does something like this leak from the leauge office.

Good news if true.
 

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