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Jonas Valanciunas ??

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Valanciunas wouldn't be a bad pickup at #8. Some other team might reach for him above the 8th pick. But if the Cavs pick 8th and he's still on the board, the Cavs would really have to consider drafting him.

Now if the Cavs 2nd lottery pick ends up higher than the 8th, it might be a more difficult decision, especially if Kanter or a top ranked wing is still on the board
 
I would be fine with Kanter's knees checkout, I would be fine with either him or Valanciunas. My dream scenario would be Iriving with the top pick, as I feel Baron could be a great mentor for him. If the second pick is in the 6-10 range, I would go with either Euro listed above. Having a legit PG prospect as well as a young center prospect with good size would be huge for this team.

Davis/Irving/Sessions
Harris/Gibson
Eyenga/Gee/Graham
Hickson/Samuels/Harangody
Kanter or Valanciunas/Varejao/Erden

That would leave us with the expiring contracts of Jamison, Hollins, and Graham, the LeBron TPE, plus Sessions, Varejao, and Gibson to move for more picks or young talent on the wing.
 
After Irving I still believe Valanciunas belongs right there in the conversation with the next group of prospects. I wouldn't have a problem with the Cavs taking him with their own pick if it falls to 3 or 4.
Let's remember that he's only 18 and is playing well and producing right now at a young age. He has the tools to be a big time player by the time he's 22 or 23 with more development.
Other top prospects have as many, if not more questions than Valanciunas has about him. A lot of the consideration about who to pick also comes down to how these players project in the coming seasons since none are going to step right in and dominate.
 
Would be great if we could draft him this year than stash him overseas like we did with Eyenga. Even with drafting a guy like Irving, I don't think him alone will be enough to get us out of the lottery next year, and keeping Valanciunas away will help make sure that doesn't happen. I want to improve this team, but not by a lot right away. I think we have to be patient and strike big in the 2012 draft, and the only way to help assure that is another solid season of losing. Draft Valanciunas with the second lottery pick, then bring him over the year after.
 
I don't think Jonas is a draft-and-stash type player... Correct me if I'm wrong, but everything I've read about him suggests he wants to play in the NBA ASAP...

While the impending NBA lockout this summer looks like a major thorn in the side of most college players, for Valanciunas it couldn't be better news. He'll be able to lock himself into a very favorable spot on the NBA rookie scale by being drafted this year but will still have the opportunity to return to Lithuania for another season (if he chooses to) and come to the NBA as a much more ready prospect.

Valanciunas has some issues to work out with his buyout from Rytas still, but he unequivocally wants to play in the NBA, telling us that that's his dream in fact.

“My biggest point is to go to the NBA, Valanciunas says. “It's my dream. My goal is to improve so I can play in the NBA.”

With that said, Valanciunas isn't necessarily willing to leave at all costs. “I want to go to the NBA when I can play,” he told us. “Not to go there and sit on the bench. If I go and sit on the bench that not good for me and it's not good for the club.”

Valanciunas' European agent, Sarunas Broga, says that its “too early to say what's going to happen, but the decision about the NBA will ultimately be made by Jonas.”

He plans on using the next few months to learn more about his draft stock and the teams that will likely be picking in the lottery—with the help of Valanciunas' new American agents, Leon Rose and Steven Heumann of CAA—and reach an agreement with Lietuvos Rytas about a sliding buyout scale figure to get out of his contract if needed. An invitation to play in the Nike Hoop Summit in Portland in April is also in the works.

The Valanciunas camp doesn't seem to be in any rush to commit to anything at this point.

“I'm thinking about making good results in basketball, Valanciunas says. “If I make good results, these things will come. When the season ends I will look at everything and me and my agent will think about all. Right now we're only halfway through the season. I still have a lot of work to do. I need to focus on basketball."
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jonas-Valanciunas-5622/#ixzz1G637dXNr

Just a couple of other things to point out:

* Valanciunas' per 48 pace adjusted numbers are ridiculous considering his age, experience, competition and that he's coming off the bench... He's averaging 20pts, 14.6reb, 1.7bpg on 70fg% & 91ft%.... He also has a 26 PER and 74ts%, which is ridiculous efficiency... The one thing that is concerning is that he's averaging 8.2 fouls during that time too which is A LOT... I'm hoping it's more of him learning the game and learning how to play then him just being foul prone...

* I read a tweet from Jonathan Givony said a study at the Sloan Sports Conference reported that the most translatable stat from overseas basketball to the NBA is blocked shots... Valanciunas is only averaging 1.7 per 48 pace adjusted, but he's shown to be a pretty good shot-blocker in his limited playing time which should make him a good defensive presence in this league...

* The key to Valanciunas success in the NBA will be how strong he can prove to be.. Guys like Joakim Noah, Marcus Camby and Tyson Chandler aren't the bulkiest guys but are strong enough to where they can survive and be good defensive centers on good defensive teams... Valanciunas doesn't need to get Dwight Howard strong to be a good NBA center but if he can put on some good muscle weight he'll be fine.. BTW for comparison's sake: Camby, Chandler and Noah all came in the NBA in the low 220's... Howard, Javale McGee and Horford came in the NBA in the mid 240's... Nene, Bogut and Okafor all came in the NBA in the mid 250's...
 
Why the HELL would the Cavs draft someone in the top 10 with the intention of stashing them overseas??? How often does this happen? Seems like an absolutely terrible idea and a waste of a high pick.

If you're bad enough to have a top 10 pick, then you're bad enough that you need that guy to play immediately. If the Cavs draft-and-stash a top 10 pick I'm going to severely question their plans for the future.
 
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Agreed. If you're going to stash a player overseas use the second round. Cavs have OKC's pick which will be in the 50s. With three new rookies coming to the NBA (2 in first round, 1 in second), you can use the 4th pick in this way.
 
Why the HELL would the Cavs draft someone in the top 10 with the intention of stashing them overseas??? How often does this happen? Seems like an absolutely terrible idea and a waste of a high pick.

If you're bad enough to have a top 10 pick, then you're bad enough that you need that guy to play immediately. If the Cavs draft-and-stash a top 10 pick I'm going to severely question their plans for the future.

"OPERATION: Andre Drummond" :chuckles:
 
Why the HELL would the Cavs draft someone in the top 10 with the intention of stashing them overseas??? How often does this happen? Seems like an absolutely terrible idea and a waste of a high pick.

Why? Because It could work out just as well as Ricky Rubio or Fran Vasquez.

Vázquez was selected 11th overall in the 2005 NBA Draft by the Orlando Magic. He made headlines when he announced that he would remain playing in the Spanish ACB League for at least the following season. This came as a surprise to the Magic, who expected him to join Dwight Howard in the front court for the 2005-06 season, and it enraged many Magic fans.

On June 25, 2009, [Rubio] was drafted with the fifth pick in the first round of the 2009 NBA Draft by the Minnesota Timberwolves,. The Timberwolves had an agreement in principle with his former Spanish team, DKV Joventut, to buy out his contract, but Rubio backed out of the deal. On August 31, 2009, Joventut traded the rights to Rubio to FC Barcelona, and Rubio signed a six-year contract with FC Barcelona the following day.

Oh snap! That's not what the team needs.
 
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From Fran Fraschilla:

3. Jonas Valanciunas, 7-foot, Lithuania
While Kanter and Vesely may be more ready to play in an NBA game right now, many feel that Valanciunas is the best long-term international prospect in this draft. The big Lithuanian has been, like Kanter, a star on the European junior circuit and was the European Under-16 MVP in the summer of 2008 when NBA teams first started tracking him.

Valanciunas will turn 19 years old on Friday and his combination of size, agility and athleticism make him very enticing for a team willing to wait for him to physically mature. Conversely, with this perceived to be a weak draft compared to next year, he may find himself drafted higher this season while he stays in Europe to develop, especially with a lockout looming.

Like most young big men his age and lack of strength is a concern, and he does not have a developed low-post game to rely on. Yet he shows signs of developing a nice jump hook and he is an active offensive rebounder. If he stays in this draft, he'll be selected in the mid-to-late lottery.
 
Either mock drafts have it all wrong or that guy's dumb, because Jonas is going to be gone by our pick at 8.
 
Why the HELL would the Cavs draft someone in the top 10 with the intention of stashing them overseas??? How often does this happen? Seems like an absolutely terrible idea and a waste of a high pick.

If you're bad enough to have a top 10 pick, then you're bad enough that you need that guy to play immediately. If the Cavs draft-and-stash a top 10 pick I'm going to severely question their plans for the future.

The Spurs waited on David Robinson?
 
Robinson was a crazy talent who everyone knew was going to be an odds on all star. There wasn't much doubt that he would dominate the league shortly after entering.
 
Robinson was a crazy talent who everyone knew was going to be an odds on all star. There wasn't much doubt that he would dominate the league shortly after entering.

Both him and Rodman grew something like 6 inches IN college. How awesome would it be to draft a guy like Jonas or Bismack and have them grow 6 inches in the next 2 years lol. Too bad Smack is probably 30.
 
Both him and Rodman grew something like 6 inches IN college. How awesome would it be to draft a guy like Jonas or Bismack and have them grow 6 inches in the next 2 years lol. Too bad Smack is probably 30.

That stuff is always amazing to me how guys grow into their 20s. I think I was basically done growing by the point I turned 15. It would be pretty sweet to come out of the draft with two 7 footers that can play if we can't get Irving.
 

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