Let it all out. The Cavaliers Rant Thread

[Jake]

So disappointing the end of the season and now in the playoffs looking weak. Losing the last game on purpose to avoid the knicks or whoever, then thinking we'd steamroll the Magic made us look like pansies and invigorated the Magic. Ugghh, what a mess.
Clearly some change is needed. Who's out there as a candidate for our new coach? Rest assured Gilbert is already looking at the future.
And Garland ain't working for me anymore. It's not all on him but I've lost my confidence in him. Especially at his pay grade and role.

 

[Smooth]

I didn’t have “if only we had retained 6th man Collin Sexton” in my Cavs bingo card but it you did hats off to you..

Things in the review mirror are always more attractive to some then they are actually attractive in reality..

If you’re clinging to Collin, you’re clinging to the wrong thing..

 

[cavsfever]

Honestly if we had the true dog still and hadn't traded for Mitchell I think this dog would have showed up and been tenacious at driving to the hoop and elevating our team's IT factor. Mitchell is clearly still hurting right now and not nearly as fast or as explosive as Collin. For what Mitchell is offering in the now, I take Sexton all day with his heart. Now when Mitchell is healthy and on we know Mitchell is our edge but when he isnt....it makes you question the trade. Yes Sexton hurt his knee but he had a fantastic year this year and if it was Sexton and Garland pairing it wasn't pretty but with Marky Mark in the SF slot, we would have the size and defensive coverage to mask deficiencies. Give me the organic team.

Yeah but we all know that there’s no way JBB could have improved Sextons game and brought out his potential like Will Hardy did.

 

[2 For The Brew]

I didn’t have “if only we had retained 6th man Collin Sexton” in my Cavs bingo card but it you did hats off to you..

Things in the review mirror are always more attractive to some then they are actually attractive in reality..

If you’re clinging to Collin, you’re clinging to the wrong thing..

Or Lauri, for that matter.

 

[1290joe]

I didn’t have “if only we had retained 6th man Collin Sexton” in my Cavs bingo card but it you did hats off to you..

Things in the review mirror are always more attractive to some then they are actually attractive in reality..

If you’re clinging to Collin, you’re clinging to the wrong thing..

The Colin sexton delusion is crazy to me. He isn’t a star, or a difference maker. He isn’t winning in Utah and is hurt all the time. I don’t believe he was even consistently in their starting line up, came off the bench a 1/3 of utahs games as a rebuilding bottom feeding team. We wouldn’t even be a 4 seed with him here.

 

[MattyIce8]

Listened to the entire Fedor podcast today. He saved it for the very end, but this was confirmation of basically everything this board says:

QUOTE: “players in the lockeroom after this game were basically saying without actually saying it. JB you need to do something to create better looks for us on the offensive end”

THE PLAYERS KNOW THIS GUY SUCKS.

 

[MattyIce8]

I’m not going to excuse the players. They’ve played like crap but it has to be deflating knowing your coach has absolutely no idea what he’s doing on the offensive end and can’t put you in a position to succeed.

 

[inliner311]

Yeah but we all know that there’s no way JBB could have improved Sextons game and brought out his potential like Will Hardy did.

Right, I think Sexton is just an example of JBB failings as a coach and it should have been more of a warning sign for how he wasn't going to really help develop Garland and Mobley. We just didn't get a good full picture of what we had with Sexton and Lauri because of JBB.

JBB didn't realize Lauri was a piece that made what he wanted to run work and that should have also put up a red flag with him.

 

[Lyuokdea]

I feel like there is this huge problem (starting with JBB) where we've really never developed a way to have mediocre possessions when things aren't going well. When the offense is working we're fine - but we fall into these deep deep holes because we don't really have a way to generate "OK" offensive series reliably.

Like, why isn't there a DM + Mobley pick and roll offense, where we just move everybody else out on the perimeter, and run the same PnR 8 times in a row. Does it generate 1.2 PPP? No. But we have nothing that reliably generates 0.9 PPP and thus when the offense stops working we just go completely into the tank.

Makes you miss Le-ISO.

 

[inliner311]

The Colin sexton delusion is crazy to me. He isn’t a star, or a difference maker. He isn’t winning in Utah and is hurt all the time. I don’t believe he was even consistently in their starting line up, came off the bench a 1/3 of utahs games as a rebuilding bottom feeding team. We wouldn’t even be a 4 seed with him here.

Sexton played 78 games this season. He definitely has gotten better if you watch Utah play. He also worked his way back to being a full time starter with Utah.

Yes Utah is a bad team but they are really a mismatch group of players. Lauri was hurt alot this season and they really don't have a true point guard. They also play a big rotation with low minutes for starters which I think is a tanking strategy. Only Lauri plays appropriate minutes. They give Clarkson 30 minutes a game and everyone else gets below 30 minutes a game.

 

[1290joe]

Sexton played 78 games this season. He definitely has gotten better if you watch Utah play. He also worked his way back to being a full time starter with Utah.

Yes Utah is a bad team but they are really a mismatch group of players. Lauri was hurt alot this season and they really don't have a true point guard. They also play a big rotation with low minutes for starters which I think is a tanking strategy. Only Lauri plays appropriate minutes. They give Clarkson 30 minutes a game and everyone else gets below 30 minutes a game.

If he was a star or a difference maker he would be dragging Utah to a playoff spot. In year five fighting to get in the starting line up isn’t a good sign. That being said he may be a good role player but the talk about him being something the cavs are missing out from or regreting the trade for Mitchell is a joke.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

Jalen Brunson being this overwhelmingly better than Spida makes me very angry

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

If he was a star or a difference maker he would be dragging Utah to a playoff spot. In year five fighting to get in the starting line up isn’t a good sign. That being said he may be a good role player but the talk about him being something the cavs are missing out from or regreting the trade for Mitchell is a joke.

I'm not really here to bang the drum for Sexton, but are you of the belief that if you switched Garland and Sexton Utah would be a playoff team?

 

[Douglar]

Listened to the entire Fedor podcast today. He saved it for the very end, but this was confirmation of basically everything this board says:

QUOTE: “players in the lockeroom after this game were basically saying without actually saying it. JB you need to do something to create better looks for us on the offensive end”

THE PLAYERS KNOW THIS GUY SUCKS.

It's at the 47:45 point in the podcast, and yes, it's worth listening to it.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

Jalen Brunson being this overwhelmingly better than Spida makes me very angry

I'm not sure Brunson is much better than Mitchell. They just have a better coach with a very clear identity on how he wants to play offensively and defensively, and their FO has done a good job adding the pieces to compliment Brunson and allow them to play how Thibs wants to play.

The biggest issue I see with the Cavs is an organization that isn't in alignment from the FO down to the coaching staff. This has resulted in being a defense-first team that claims they want to speed up the pace and space the floor, yet they play two bigs that can't shoot and have a PG that plays at one of the slowest paces in the league. Because the coaching philosophy doesn't make sense, the roster winds up being all disjointed.

Knicks know what they want to do. Thibs wants to control the pace offensively, slow the game down, and out-work/out-physical you defensively. Across the board, the guys they have on their roster are guys that have always played that way.

Orlando kind of plays similar to the Knicks, with more length but lacking in guard play. Still, they play to their strengths and mitigate their weaknesses as much as they can.

Pacers aren't going to stop you to save their lives, but they're going to run you into the ground and they have the personnel to do so.

Celtics built their team to have length and shooting all over the court with the goal of jacking as many threes as possible and being able to switch almost everything.

Philly's going to beat you up inside with Embiid and Maxey attacking the paint.

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I'm not going to go through every playoff team, but the point is the majority have a clear style in which they want to play and have built their rosters to be able to play that way. We're 4 years into the JBB tenure, and it doesn't seem like the FO or the coach are on the same page in how they want this team to play.