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Potential Playoff Roster

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Just from this interview today pre-game, pretty much sounds like Kip in CF as at least a platoon vs righties is a lock for the playoffs.

 
I really hope we go with 4 starters in the ALDS - hate the idea of pitching Kluber on 3 days rest, and don't really see the logic of it anyway. I don't see Bauer as being much better than Clevenger. If we're up 2-1, why burn Kluber so he can't start the ALCS? If we're down 2-1, then we'd have to win Game 5 anyway and best to have him pitch the rubber game.
 
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New ALDS prediction

14 hitters
C: Gomes, Perez
IF: Santana, Ramirez, Lindor, Diaz, Urshela
OF: Bruce, Kipnis, Chisenhall, Jackson, Guyer, Allen
DH: Encarnation

11 pitchers
SP: Kluber, Carrasco, Bauer, Clevinger
RP: Allen, Miller, Shaw, Smith, Olson, Otero, Goody

Left out
IF: Gonzalez
OF: Brantley, Almonte, Naquin
P: Tomlin, Salazar, McAlister, Breslow

If Brantley is somehow able to make it back in the final week of the season, I'm dropping Diaz off the roster, moving Kipnis back to 2nd base and starting Ramirez at 3B with Urshela as the backup infielder.
 
CBBI said:
New ALDS prediction

14 hitters
C: Gomes, Perez
IF: Santana, Ramirez, Lindor, Diaz, Urshela
OF: Bruce, Kipnis, Chisenhall, Jackson, Guyer, Allen
DH: Encarnation

11 pitchers
SP: Kluber, Carrasco, Bauer, Clevinger
RP: Allen, Miller, Shaw, Smith, Olson, Otero, Goody

Left out
IF: Gonzalez
OF: Brantley, Almonte, Naquin
P: Tomlin, Salazar, McAlister, Breslow

If Brantley is somehow able to make it back in the final week of the season, I'm dropping Diaz off the roster, moving Kipnis back to 2nd base and starting Ramirez at 3B with Urshela as the backup infielder.
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Thats about where I am at & agree with potential swap outs.

I think you roll with that until the WS.

Once that happens, drop Diaz & insert Salazar into the bullpen. He can either be a spot starter or give you 3 outs of fastball hell. Id even consider dropping Guyer as well. Only because we will have potentially 3 games where Santana will likely slide to the OF for Edwin to get some reps at 1B just to keep his bat in the lineup.

Luckily our flexibility with Kipnis, Santana, & Jose can help us in a pinch. I would just hate to hurt any chemistry or regress significantly from a defensive perspective.
 
I still cannot see Tomlin being left off the roster. I have him on the roster over Goody at the end of the day.
 
sportscoach said:
I still cannot see Tomlin being left off the roster. I have him on the roster over Goody at the end of the day.
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Tomlin is like Salazar to me. If he doesn't make it as the No. 4 starter, then I just don't see a place for him at all. I personally don't see the need for a long reliever in the playoffs.

If the Indians can't get through a playoff game using 8 pitchers (1 starter + 7 relievers), then they probably don't deserve to win that game anyway.

If they end up having some marathon 12+ inning game in the first three games of a series, then I imagine Clevinger would just come in and pitch 3-4 innings anyway and Kluber would pitch the next game on short rest.
 
CBBI said:
Tomlin is like Salazar to me. If he doesn't make it as the No. 4 starter, then I just don't see a place for him at all. I personally don't see the need for a long reliever in the playoffs.

If the Indians can't get through a playoff game using 8 pitchers (1 starter + 7 relievers), then they probably don't deserve to win that game anyway.

If they end up having some marathon 12+ inning game in the first three games of a series, then I imagine Clevinger would just come in and pitch 3-4 innings anyway and Kluber would pitch the next game on short rest.
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Honestly id rather have a long reliever in the bullpen in case of a bad start, that way he can come in and finish a game so we don't tax the bullpen heavily on one day. Tomlin is better suited for this than Clev is anyways since Tomlin is one of the few pitchers in the league that can get through 5-6 innings in 75 area of pitches in every outing.

Also Francona will choose Tomlin over Goody at the end of the day. Tomlin also has been good lately so it's not like he has been bad. Look at his recent numbers, he's been better than a lot of teams #2 or 3 starters and he is our 5th starter right now. My hunch says Tomlin makes the roster.
 
bigfoot5415 said:
Thats about where I am at & agree with potential swap outs.

I think you roll with that until the WS.

Once that happens, drop Diaz & insert Salazar into the bullpen. He can either be a spot starter or give you 3 outs of fastball hell. Id even consider dropping Guyer as well. Only because we will have potentially 3 games where Santana will likely slide to the OF for Edwin to get some reps at 1B just to keep his bat in the lineup.

Luckily our flexibility with Kipnis, Santana, & Jose can help us in a pinch. I would just hate to hurt any chemistry or regress significantly from a defensive perspective.
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Diaz's spot in the lineup is locked up.

Tomlin/Clevinger has first dibs on the long relief role which means Salazar is the odd man out.

I'm not sure Guyer will be ready for the ALDS with the wrist injury which could open up another roster spot.
 
CBBI said:
New ALDS prediction

14 hitters
C: Gomes, Perez
IF: Santana, Ramirez, Lindor, Diaz, Urshela
OF: Bruce, Kipnis, Chisenhall, Jackson, Guyer, Allen
DH: Encarnation

11 pitchers
SP: Kluber, Carrasco, Bauer, Clevinger
RP: Allen, Miller, Shaw, Smith, Olson, Otero, Goody
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Completely agree with this 25 as what I'd expect them to do. Crazy maybe 2 weeks ago I would have said 0 chance with Greg Allen.

I could see a long reliever over Allen still as a possibility for sure if Chisenhall can get completely healthy.
 
3 Ball...GOT IT said:
You've literally said this incessantly for almost a month with nothing ever backing it up.
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I am not the only one who agrees and it's like choose between a guy who has been pitching well who is a veteran and a guy who has been pitching well who isn't a veteran. Take your pick since that is the only argument between the last choices making this roster..

Essentially guys like Tomlin, Otero, McAllister are all solid veterans pitchers with good numbers and likely long men in the playoffs

While guys like Clev and Goody have had solid seasons, but lack experience in some ways. Clev has been solid since he came up and Goody is the same way.

I am going with Clev, Tomlin and Otero for the last three spots in the bullpen. That is no different than saying Goody will get a spot since you cannot backup either guy getting the spot since everyone has good numbers. Francona is the decider and Francona is fond of Tomlin so that may be why he gets the spot over Goody. If you say that isn't a good argument then you don't understand the coach. So don't get after me for not backing my statement up when you cannot backup Goody really over anyone else.
 
sportscoach said:
I am not the only one who agrees and it's like choose between a guy who has been pitching well who is a veteran and a guy who has been pitching well who isn't a veteran. Take your pick since that is the only argument between the last choices making this roster..

Essentially guys like Tomlin, Otero, McAllister are all solid veterans pitchers with good numbers and likely long men in the playoffs

While guys like Clev and Goody have had solid seasons, but lack experience in some ways. Clev has been solid since he came up and Goody is the same way.

I am going with Clev, Tomlin and Otero for the last three spots in the bullpen. That is no different than saying Goody will get a spot since you cannot backup either guy getting the spot since everyone has good numbers. Francona is the decider and Francona is fond of Tomlin so that may be why he gets the spot over Goody. If you say that isn't a good argument then you don't understand the coach. So don't get after me for not backing my statement up when you cannot backup Goody really over anyone else.
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Here's one that will send you for a loop. What if Francona is ALSO fond of Nick Goody?
 
3 Ball...GOT IT said:
Here's one that will send you for a loop. What if Francona is ALSO fond of Nick Goody?
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Tomlin is one of his favorite guys on the team and Francona has personally said that and Goody is essentially a rookie while Tomlin is one of the old guys in a sense on this roster and he did well last year for us in the playoffs. Francona wants experience and probably feels Tomlin has the right to be on the roster.

Either way my opinion is Tomlin over Goody but either makes sense and really doesn't need to be argued over in a sense like you are trying to argue over it.
 
No. 1. Terrible decision

No. 2. It’s Salazar’s spot to lose IMO. They’re gonna give him every opportunity to be the guy to start in the playoffs.
 
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